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re: $126,935 is the average annual cost of a Student-Athlete at Alabama.

Posted on 1/24/18 at 11:25 am to
Posted by ConwayGamecock
South Carolina
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Posted on 1/24/18 at 11:25 am to
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One thing I wish student athletes should be able to do is major in football or basketball and let their meetings and practices count as coursework because that is why most of them are there in the first place. It makes no sense why some of these kids who are academically inept or aren't willing have to take up space in college classes they don't want to be in.




A number of universities actually do that....maybe not so much major in football or basketball, but if they major in sports related degrees, their meetings and practices can count for credit hours towards their degrees.....
This post was edited on 1/24/18 at 11:27 am
Posted by momentoftruth87
DeSantis Country
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 1/24/18 at 11:30 am to
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One thing I wish student athletes should be able to do is major in football or basketball and let their meetings and practices count as coursework because that is why most of them are there in the first place. It makes no sense why some of these kids who are academically inept or aren't willing have to take up space in college classes they don't want to be in.


The answer to that is "critical thinking" hours.

Every degree requires bullshite classes that won't be used in the real world and every student has to still do them.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
18788 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 11:32 am to
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Email them back and ask what the costs of the women’s swim team are.

41% higher than the men, with their 14 scholarships to our 9.9
Posted by Jyrdis
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Posted on 1/24/18 at 11:33 am to
Just give them $150,000 and let them spend it however they see fit as long as they are enrolled in classes. Go ahead and teach them money management from early on. If they blow it on a car and can't travel with the team then that gives them a valuable lesson.
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 11:35 am to
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They still letting you do thin in LA.


What? Marry YOUR sister? No. That stank bitch ain't allowed back in Louisiana. Last time she was there she spread her legs and Katrina happened.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 11:54 am to
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One thing I wish student athletes should be able to do is major in football or basketball and let their meetings and practices count as coursework because that is why most of them are there in the first place. It makes no sense why some of these kids who are academically inept or aren't willing have to take up space in college classes they don't want to be in.




What % do you think actually make it to the Pros ?
Posted by HTDawg
Member since Sep 2016
6683 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 11:54 am to
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If it is highest bidder, then the margin between the "haves" and the "have nots" will grow even larger.


Say hello to America, the new oligarchy.

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One thing I wish student athletes should be able to do is major in football or basketball and let their meetings and practices count as coursework because that is why most of them are there in the first place. It makes no sense why some of these kids who are academically inept or aren't willing have to take up space in college classes they don't want to be in.


So you basically want to put a bunch of idiots into the world, who will be broke by the time they are 30. Many already are. If you want to do that, why even have a football program associated with the university. Just create a developmental league, which will ultimately damage college football. It amazes me people want to destroy college football and turn it into the NFL. Not to even mention the vast majority will never even sniff the NFL.
This post was edited on 1/24/18 at 12:03 pm
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26000 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 12:22 pm to
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Not that they have to be paid, but that they can be. Don't make a rule that prevents people from getting their market value.

Don't you believe in freedom and the free market?




They are only worth more if someone decides to pay them more.

So far, the NFL has said that they aren't worth it.

The CFL can take them. But again... 18-20 year olds tend to get beat up by grown arse men.

If you think they are worth more, maybe you should hire them.
This post was edited on 1/24/18 at 12:24 pm
Posted by TroyTider
Florida Panhandle
Member since Oct 2009
3841 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 12:23 pm to
Football team running up expenses with all of those extra games they play every year.
Posted by OleManDixon
Lexington
Member since Jan 2018
9389 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 12:36 pm to
That number reflects the school’s expenses, not the benefit to athletes. I mean seriously, are we counting gas to get the bus from the hotel to the stadium/arena as a benefit? This list is largely composed of expenses for the program the school wishes to create. If we’re calling this some sort of benefit analysis we might as well add in cost for fertilizing the grass on the field or changing lightbulbs in the arena.
Posted by BigBill53
BayouLand
Member since Jun 2014
122 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 12:47 pm to
Do you guys ever receive an email asking for "academic donations", and just out of curiosity, would you know what the total dollar figure is for the entire football dept. staff? And that includes every coach, trainer, etc. I bet that figure is more than what your or any other big time football schools' academic donations are.
Posted by Poker Dough
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2018
9076 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 12:49 pm to
Imagine the payments that aren't included
Posted by Jack Daniel
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Member since Feb 2013
26488 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 12:54 pm to
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This includes Scholarship, travel expenses, athletic facilities, equipment, nutritional expenses, dodge chargers, and general operating expenses.
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 12:57 pm to
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this is why i don't put any stock into the whole "athletes are exploited and deserve to be paid" argument.

they SHOULD leave college with zero debt, a degree, connections the average student could only dream about, and having spent 4 years showing potential employers in their dream field what they are capable of with exposure that you simply can't put a price on.


I'm not jumping into the debate here, I just want to make sure to make sure people remember that these costs include the costs of being an athlete. In other words, I assume that uniforms, travel, etc., costs that wouldn't be imposed on the student-athlete in the first place if he or she wasn't representing the universities as an athlete, count toward this figure. So those costs shouldn't be included in the argument.
Posted by lowhound
Effie
Member since Aug 2014
8037 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 12:58 pm to
damn, those white Dodge Chargers are spensive!
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
21198 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 1:06 pm to
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What % do you think actually make it to the Pros ?


At Alabama, it's roughly 25% of every incoming football class. Additionally, there are even more that will go into coaching at all levels, supporting staffs, broadcasting, training, and even agency, where their time as an athlete provides a base of knowledge, networking, and authenticity.

It's a great base for those who wish to pursue a career in sports related fields. For the others, it's a path to a free education in whatever other direction they choose.

Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
21198 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 1:10 pm to
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That number reflects the school’s expenses, not the benefit to athletes. I mean seriously, are we counting gas to get the bus from the hotel to the stadium/arena as a benefit? This list is largely composed of expenses for the program the school wishes to create. If we’re calling this some sort of benefit analysis we might as well add in cost for fertilizing the grass on the field or changing lightbulbs in the arena.




The OP doesn't say "benefit". It says "cost". That's why they are asking for donations.

But the dollar amount of the benefits are enormous for a student on an athletic scholarship.
This post was edited on 1/24/18 at 1:13 pm
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
21320 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 1:16 pm to
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It amazes me people want to destroy college football and turn it into the NFL.


Completely agree. It amazes me as well. Expand the playoff. Pay the players. Allow transfers with no restrictions. Lazy narratives that people buy into because of a naive quest for “fairness.”
Posted by Dawgholio
Bugtussle
Member since Oct 2015
13047 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 1:36 pm to
Does it include the Dodge Chargers or no?
Posted by Dixie Howell
Roswell, GA
Member since Oct 2016
82 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 2:01 pm to
Funny the first 5 times in this thread.....unfortunately not the 6th.
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