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re: Alabama Basketball Recruiting and Offseason Talk
Posted on 4/26/17 at 8:21 am to Gongora
Posted on 4/26/17 at 8:21 am to Gongora
The kid we have been recruiting the hardest is Javian Fleming who is an unranked center, of which we have 3 on the roster (4 that could spend time there, 2 of which are studs). Avery goes after kids he likes regardless of need so I wouldn't just look at the offer list to try to determine what is or isn't a need. Right now, there's a high probability that Sexton is gone which leaves us with 2 scholarship PGs on the roster for 2018-19. If they don't recruit another PG, they must believe Lawson is ready to play. Otherwise one injury to AJjr or Ingram sinks that team. I think Lawson can play at this level, but most are skeptical.
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 8:53 am to BigBird09
Fleming is a 4 which is our weakest position.
We are recruiting Woodard the hardest. He's a 2/3.
Not a high probability Sexton leaves after 1 year. Possible? Yes. No need to reach on a guy that isn't year 1 starting material.
I don't follow your logic at all how Avery doesn't recruit needs.
We are recruiting Woodard the hardest. He's a 2/3.
Not a high probability Sexton leaves after 1 year. Possible? Yes. No need to reach on a guy that isn't year 1 starting material.
I don't follow your logic at all how Avery doesn't recruit needs.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 10:19 am to Gongora
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Fleming is a 4 which is our weakest position.
As far as I know, he's a back to the basket 5. We've been recruiting him hard since before we had Giddens and Smith. Avery is not recruiting him because he thinks he's a 4; he's recruiting him because he likes him.
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We are recruiting Woodard the hardest. He's a 2/3.
We're recruiting him as hard as Fleming now, but we've been recruiting Fleming for MUCH longer.
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Not a high probability Sexton leaves after 1 year. Possible? Yes. No need to reach on a guy that isn't year 1 starting material
A look at recent history makes "high probability" seem generous.
247 Composite:
2016 Top 5: All one and done
2015 Top 5: All one and done
2014 Top 5: All one and done
2016 Top 10: 9 one and done. The other jumped straight to pros (Thon Maker)
2015 Top 10: 9 one and done. The other should've left (Ivan Rabb)
2014 Top 10: 9 one and done
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I don't follow your logic at all how Avery doesn't recruit needs
Never said he didn't fill needs. I just said he goes after guys he really likes regardless of needs. I fully expect him to get a PG this class.
This post was edited on 4/26/17 at 10:20 am
Posted on 4/26/17 at 1:33 pm to BigBird09
Dazon's highlight video from last year is on youtube.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 1:34 pm to BigBird09
I've noticed that Fleming is getting major attention now. A ton of SEC schools are recruiting him hard. He just picked up an offer from A&M today
Posted on 4/26/17 at 2:46 pm to BigBird09
BBird, have? you watched any video of Fleming? What am I missing? Looks unathletic and slow to me. Any opinion?
Posted on 4/26/17 at 2:57 pm to phaz
I've seen a couple videos, but highlight videos aren't great to go by.
From what I gather, he's an old school banger. Think of him like a small-scale Shaq. I've heard he's one of the best back-to-the-basket bigs in the class and has a great touch for his size. He won't really wow anyone in any highlight videos because his skill-set isn't sexy... It's fundamental. Hence why coaches seem to love him way more than recruiting services do.
From what I gather, he's an old school banger. Think of him like a small-scale Shaq. I've heard he's one of the best back-to-the-basket bigs in the class and has a great touch for his size. He won't really wow anyone in any highlight videos because his skill-set isn't sexy... It's fundamental. Hence why coaches seem to love him way more than recruiting services do.
This post was edited on 4/26/17 at 3:01 pm
Posted on 4/26/17 at 3:38 pm to BigBird09
I don't know how you can watch Flemings videos and not be impressed. Kids has skills. He is a little chubby. He e is a basketball player. About time we start recruiting those instead of just athletes.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 4:48 pm to BigBird09
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Avery is not recruiting him because he thinks he's a 4; he's recruiting him because he likes him.
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he goes after guys he really likes regardless of needs.
Can you give an example of how Avery's done this in the past? I know for a fact that Fleming is being recruited as a 4. Why are you trying to argue?
Posted on 4/26/17 at 4:56 pm to Tide or Die87
I can understand if he just watched some highlight videos how Fleming wouldn't look that impressive. I didn't like him that much until I watched that full game on YouTube. His passing really stuck out to me as something very few bigs have, and his overall game is very polished.
This post was edited on 4/26/17 at 4:57 pm
Posted on 4/26/17 at 6:48 pm to Gongora
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Can you give an example of how Avery's done this in the past? I know for a fact that Fleming is being recruited as a 4. Why are you trying to argue?
Not trying to argue, and I apologize if it seems that way, but I like giving my perspective.
I love seeing what insiders, such as yourself, have to say, but I always take it with a grain of salt. This is why you won't see me with a pitchfork if you happen to be misinformed. I get it. shite happens.
Not saying that you're wrong, but Fleming at the 4 doesn't make much sense to me. He's skilled around the basket, but he isn't known as a shooter and is very slow-footed. He wouldn't be able to stay in front of most collegiate 4s with the way the game has changed and it would go completely against having an up-tempo offense. He reminds me a lot of Nick Jacobs and we were forced to play him mostly at the 5 because he got blown by every 4 he defended. He was still bad defensively at the 5, but not quite as terrible
Posted on 4/26/17 at 7:34 pm to BigBird09
I was hoping things were about to get good but you went the nice route
Posted on 4/26/17 at 9:13 pm to BigBird09
One of my favorite players is slow footed and dominates. Zach Randolph. At the end of the day you can't look pass his basketball IQ. Give it to him at the free throw line and let guys do back cuts.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 9:44 pm to BigBird09
Feel free to express opinions all you want. It's the stuff that I quoted, when you state what Avery does or thinks, that rubs me wrong. Or like when you say that Fleming is a smaller Shaq, but he's slow footed. Shaq could run the floor as well as any big man in the game. We all know how big and strong he was. That would make Fleming nothing at all like Shaq. You act like only a 5 can post up or play with his back to the basket. NBA rosters have tons of guys that still play traditional, back to the basket PF roles. Not every 4 has to be a stretch.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 9:45 pm to Bryant91092
quote:I had done got my popcorn out and everything just to be let down
I was hoping things were about to get good but you went the nice route
Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:44 pm to Gongora
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Feel free to express opinions all you want. It's the stuff that I quoted, when you state what Avery does or thinks, that rubs me wrong.
Like when you say you know for a fact that he's being recruited as a 4? Ironic that that bothers you...
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Or like when you say that Fleming is a smaller Shaq, but he's slow footed. Shaq could run the floor as well as any big man in the game. We all know how big and strong he was.
As well as anyone is exaggerative, but that's beside the point. Someone asked me what I thought of him so I gave him a well-known player to compare him to from what I've seen. Shaq had a great back-to-the-basket game and...
quote:Hence the comparison.... And that's where it ends. Otherwise he'd be one of the top recruits...
We all know how big and strong he was.
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You act like only a 5 can post up or play with his back to the basket.
Where did I even imply this? If you want to be a 4 though, you have to be able to guard 4s. I just don't see him being capable with his slow feet.
Posted on 4/27/17 at 11:07 am to Tide or Die87
Love Zebo
Posted on 4/27/17 at 11:10 am to TomRollTideRitter
This weekend Adidas is in Atlanta, EYBL in Indianapolis, UAA in Fishers, Indiana.
Posted on 4/27/17 at 3:58 pm to TomRollTideRitter
Sexton is projected to be the 5th pick in the 2018 Draft LINK
This post was edited on 4/27/17 at 3:59 pm
Posted on 4/28/17 at 10:19 am to Bamafan15
Even if Sexton told Avery he wants to stay for two years, I hope we operate under the assumption he's one and done. With the way players transfer now, I wouldn't worry about roster spots so much.
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