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You Can't have it both ways (LSU)
Posted on 8/10/16 at 9:12 am
Posted on 8/10/16 at 9:12 am
You can't on one had say you have 18 starters back and you have the most talent in the league and on the other hand say Harris wasn't the problem, he didn't get any help.
These are the same guys. The only argument to be made that LSU is going to be marginally better is that Harris makes vast improvements.
This guy thew for 53.7 %, 13 TD 6 Int. Really 5 TD 5 INT in the games that acutally mattered. (UF, Bama, ARK, OM, A&M)
You can't argue that LSU is the favorite in the west unless you can make a damn good argument for improved QB play. A year of experience doesn't count.
What these stats say is that Harris was an above average QB when LSU was able to run the ball effective and Harris was able to throw against teams that put 7 guys in the box.
Teams that were able to contain LF7 were also able to shut down Harris because he had normal coverage by the defense because they didn't have to sell out to stop the run.
LSU's season is on Harris's shoulders. He has a lot to prove. If I were an LSU fan, I would be pretty nervous about the fact that my season rides on the arm of a QB that hasn't gotten in done multiple times before.
These are the same guys. The only argument to be made that LSU is going to be marginally better is that Harris makes vast improvements.
This guy thew for 53.7 %, 13 TD 6 Int. Really 5 TD 5 INT in the games that acutally mattered. (UF, Bama, ARK, OM, A&M)
You can't argue that LSU is the favorite in the west unless you can make a damn good argument for improved QB play. A year of experience doesn't count.
What these stats say is that Harris was an above average QB when LSU was able to run the ball effective and Harris was able to throw against teams that put 7 guys in the box.
Teams that were able to contain LF7 were also able to shut down Harris because he had normal coverage by the defense because they didn't have to sell out to stop the run.
LSU's season is on Harris's shoulders. He has a lot to prove. If I were an LSU fan, I would be pretty nervous about the fact that my season rides on the arm of a QB that hasn't gotten in done multiple times before.
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Posted on 8/10/16 at 9:13 am to HottyToddy7
K
Posted on 8/10/16 at 9:14 am to HottyToddy7
have fun with zero scholarships
Posted on 8/10/16 at 9:14 am to HottyToddy7
But Cam Cameron is going to be on the field now...obviously your logic is flawed
Posted on 8/10/16 at 9:14 am to HottyToddy7
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Harris wasn't the problem, he didn't get any help.
No one is saying this.
Posted on 8/10/16 at 9:15 am to HottyToddy7
No QB has ever improved in his second year of starting in the SEC? Jesus y'all act like LSU failed to make a bowl last year lol.
Posted on 8/10/16 at 9:16 am to GFaceKillah
Ole Miss enjoy your 1-3 September
Posted on 8/10/16 at 9:18 am to HottyToddy7
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You can't argue that LSU is the favorite in the west unless you can make a damn good argument for improved QB play. A year of experience doesn't count.
Thanks for setting the rules on LSU football expectation arguments. What would we do without you????
Posted on 8/10/16 at 9:19 am to doya2
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The only argument to be made that LSU is going to be marginally better is that Harris makes vast improvements.
Huh? Wut? So you are saying that we will only be marginally better if Harris makes vast improvements?
Posted on 8/10/16 at 9:20 am to HottyToddy7
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You can't argue that LSU is the favorite in the west unless you can make a damn good argument for improved QB play.
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A year of experience doesn't count
wtf
ETA:
Year 1 vs. Year 2 for some SEC/LSU QBs
Brandon Harris (sophomore):
Year 1 - 149/277 - 53.8% - 2165 yards - 7.8 y/a - 13 TDs - 6 INTs - 130.6 QBR
Year 2 - ??????? TBD ???????
Dak Prescott (redshirt sophomore):
Year 1 - 156/267 - 58.4% - 1940 yards - 7.3 y/a - 10 TDs - 7 INTs - 126.6 QBR
Year 2 - 244/396 - 61.6% - 3449 yards - 8.7 y/a - 27 TDs - 11 INTs - 151.7 QBR
Zach Mettenberger (redshirt junior):
Year 1 - 207/352 - 58.8% - 2609 yards - 7.4 y/a – 12 TDs – 7 INTs - 128.3 QBR
Year 2 - 192/296 - 64.9% - 3082 yards - 10.4 y/a - 22 TDs - 8 INTs - 171.4 QBR
Jamarcus Russell (sophomore):
Year 1 - 188/311 - 60.5% - 2443 yards - 7.9 y/a – 15 TDs – 9 INTs - 136.6 QBR
Year 2 - 232/342 - 67.8% - 3129 yards - 9.1 y/a - 28 TDs - 8 INTs - 167.0 QBR
This post was edited on 8/10/16 at 9:28 am
Posted on 8/10/16 at 9:20 am to HottyToddy7
If Harris throws the same amount of passes as he did last year he only has to complete 1.5 more a game to be at 60 percent completion.
For the record go look at the jump Jarvis Landry and Odell made from their Sophomore to Junior seasons. That was a big reason why Mett had the senior year he had those guys were better. Getting 18 starters back is not a negative no matter how much you want to spin it.
For the record go look at the jump Jarvis Landry and Odell made from their Sophomore to Junior seasons. That was a big reason why Mett had the senior year he had those guys were better. Getting 18 starters back is not a negative no matter how much you want to spin it.
Posted on 8/10/16 at 9:21 am to HottyToddy7
Melt;dr
Posted on 8/10/16 at 9:24 am to LsuTool
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Melt;dr
How do you know it is a melt if you didn't read it?
Posted on 8/10/16 at 9:25 am to Farmer1906
Been around long enough
Posted on 8/10/16 at 9:27 am to HottyToddy7
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A year of experience doesn't count.
Yeah I've never seen a young QB improve myself, just a rarity.
Posted on 8/10/16 at 9:28 am to HottyToddy7
LSU is this years hype team, just let it roll. We will have plenty of off-season to let them have it with Tennessee probably having a good season this year.
Posted on 8/10/16 at 9:29 am to HottyToddy7
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on the other hand say Harris wasn't the problem, he didn't get any help.
Link?
Posted on 8/10/16 at 9:30 am to HottyToddy7
Wow that is some incredible insight into the LSU program how did you come up with these theories on your own. LSU needs better QB play damn it why has Les not solved the riddle yet?
Posted on 8/10/16 at 9:31 am to TigerFanNKaty
There is a lot more evidence that he won't solve it than there is that he will.
Posted on 8/10/16 at 9:36 am to HottyToddy7
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There is a lot more evidence that he won't solve it than there is that he will.
Except most QBs he's coached have shown improvement over time. Russell got better from Year 1 starting to Year 2. Jarrett Lee got better over time. Zach Mettenberger got better from Year 1 to Year 2 starting.
The only one who bucked the trend a little was Jordan Jefferson who was up and down.
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