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re: ***Coaching changes discussion***

Posted on 2/23/16 at 3:13 am to
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
Member since Dec 2009
21256 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 3:13 am to
quote:

I will never make a serious statement that involves the world scuttlebutt just FYI



I was thinking earlier about how sports talk keeps old-fashioned words in use. All these "antics" and "shenanigans." And the only time I hear "scuttlebutt" IRL is when my mom or other old ladies are gossiping. But I'm sure there are sports writers and radio hosts who use it routinely.
Posted by Raid05
Houston
Member since Jan 2013
1105 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 8:48 am to
MSU football beat writer saying we have hired David Turner.

LINK
Posted by Pitch To Johnny
Houston
Member since Jun 2015
4195 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 8:53 am to
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34346 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:44 am to
It is a good hire by how pissed they are.

He apparently is a good recruiter according to 247.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:53 am to
"scuttlebutt" is one of my pet words irl
Posted by Houston Summit
Houston, TX
Member since Apr 2012
1995 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 10:27 am to
State fans on their board are calling his move to A&M a step down from his position at MSU

They mad
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145316 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 10:40 am to
quote:

State fans on their board are calling his move to A&M a step down
hahahahahahhahah
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 10:52 am to
Needed that laugh this morning
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34346 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 10:59 am to
Choice quotes from Elite Dogs:

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So the guy that kinda saved our awful recruiting class is leaving and it's a good thing? Don't be that guy.



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Not judging good or bad - but since he entered coaching in 1986, Turner has never spent more than 3 years in one place. Moving on seems to be his MO.



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A&M has really put together a great staff. Chavis and Turner on D. They just hired an excellent O-line coach. They have recruited very well. I look for them to be very strong the near future.

No positive spin to us losing Turner. He was our best recruiter and probably best coach. It's going to be tough to find a D-line coach at this point. May have to look to a non-Power 5 conference. Thank you Turner for signing Jeff Simmons before you left


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If he left to go be a DC or even an HC, then sure go for it. But this move is lateral at best and if the reports are true he's taking less money.


Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
42737 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 11:11 am to
Really really solid hire. A good coach who knows the SEC landscape is huge. Y'all have a great staff in place, and if Sumlin can right the ship (I know that's a big if) I think y'all will be in a great place going forward.
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 12:01 pm to
quote:

It is a good hire by how pissed they are.


Exactly.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80810 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 12:10 pm to
Now we just need to get rid of McKinney.
Posted by agalloch
Portland, OR
Member since Jun 2015
1647 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 12:13 pm to
Honest question, not defending McKinney, I just don't know much about him: why does everybody think he's a bad coach? I know he was a mediocre OC at best, but what evidence do we have that makes him worth firing?
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34346 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 12:17 pm to
Can you remember the last time A&M had an elite RB? Neither can we.

Even back when the line was stocked with NFL first rounders JFF was our best RB.
Posted by agalloch
Portland, OR
Member since Jun 2015
1647 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 12:20 pm to
I don't think we've had an actual elite RB since Toombs, and even that is debatable. And I think it comes down to recruiting and scheme more than being coached up. We definitely don't run a scheme conducive to attracting elite RBs. I'm curious to see what Mazzone does.
This post was edited on 2/23/16 at 12:22 pm
Posted by Houston Summit
Houston, TX
Member since Apr 2012
1995 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 12:26 pm to
While I don't think you can call either of them "elite", the tandem of Cyrus and CMike was pretty damn strong
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34346 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 12:42 pm to
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And I think it comes down to recruiting


Can't be.

Trey? a five star
Brandon? a five star
James White? a four star

Tra the starter was actually a three star.

Honestly though I can't blame all of that on any single coach though. Seems like we have an issue getting five star RBs to live up to expectations (Goodson, Michael).
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 1:00 pm to
quote:

the tandem of Cyrus and CMike was pretty damn strong


Those two and Goodson/Lane have been our best combos the past decade.
Posted by 85AustinAg
Austin, Texas
Member since Jan 2016
298 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 1:37 pm to
RB Coaching is not that complicated so you want an ace recruiter at that spot. Not much showing that McKinney is an ace recruiter at this point. That's the knock.
Posted by WRTC
Member since Sep 2014
768 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 2:02 pm to
Need Luper in that spot.
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