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Offenses evolved to score more points. Defenses haven't evolved to stop them.

Posted on 1/17/15 at 6:46 pm
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
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Posted on 1/17/15 at 6:46 pm
Offenses are just as much a part of the game as defenses are. So stop saying "offense is killing football" or "The HUNH is ruining football" because they got creative and left defenses in the dust.

Why don't you tell your lazy defensive coordinators to stop bitching about how the HUNH is no fair and make them find ways to stop it. Sure it's hard to defend, but that's your DCs fault for not finding ways to stop it.
This post was edited on 1/17/15 at 6:48 pm
Posted by The_Joker
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Posted on 1/17/15 at 6:49 pm to
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Offenses evolved to score more points


You should inform Hugh Freeze. His offense hasn't been scoring many points.
This post was edited on 1/17/15 at 6:50 pm
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 1/17/15 at 6:49 pm to
The rulebook of football is slanted to give offense the advantage. Has nothing to do with coming up with ways to stop it. The team on offense completely dictates the game and there is nothing the defense can do about it.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
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Posted on 1/17/15 at 6:49 pm to
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You should inform Hugh Freeze

9 wins > 7 wins
Posted by Gamecock4Life
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Posted on 1/17/15 at 6:49 pm to
Drewbie is right
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
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Posted on 1/17/15 at 6:50 pm to
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The team on offense completely dictates the game and there is nothing the defense can do about it.

They have weeks to prepare for it sometimes. Like your defensive coordinator did for us. Others love to bitch about it though.
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 1/17/15 at 6:52 pm to
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Like your defensive coordinator did for us.
Your QB sucking arse has nothing to do with the defense controlling the offense. By dictate I mean the offense completely controls how fast or slow the game is. The refs don't dictate it, the defense doesn't dictate it, the offense does. Combine that with the fact that there are about twice as many rules protecting the offense than the defense and you get what the game of football is turning into today.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
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Posted on 1/17/15 at 6:54 pm to
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Your QB sucking arse has nothing to do with the defense controlling the offense.

It was more than that and you know it.

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By dictate I mean the offense completely controls how fast or slow the game is.

So the defense should be able to slow the game down and substitute however fast they want to before the offense can run their play?

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Combine that with the fact that there are about twice as many rules protecting the offense than the defense and you get what the game of football is turning into today.

So the offenses found ways to exploit the defenses. So they should shut it down?
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 1/17/15 at 6:55 pm to
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9 wins > 7 wins
30 points > 0 points
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
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Posted on 1/17/15 at 6:55 pm to
Cool. Those 30 points got you one win. We still had 9 wins to your 7 and with a tougher schedule.
This post was edited on 1/17/15 at 6:56 pm
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 1/17/15 at 6:57 pm to
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So the offenses found ways to exploit the defenses. So they should shut it down?

Offenses are babied and have many inherent advantages over the defense. The fact that the ref can't even step in to let everyone get set before a play just adds to it. Instead of empowering officials to control the pace of the game for the sake of fairness, they're being told to get out of the offense's way and just let em go. How do you expect defenses to do anything with the deck stacked against them?
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 1/17/15 at 6:58 pm to
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We still had 9 wins to your 7 and with a tougher schedule.
I'm sure those 9 other teams respect that result. However, to claim superiority over a team that beat you 30-0 is just silly.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
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Posted on 1/17/15 at 6:59 pm to
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Offenses are babied and have many inherent advantages over the defense. The fact that the ref can't even step in to let everyone get set before a play just adds to it. Instead of empowering officials to control the pace of the game for the sake of fairness, they're being told to get out of the offense's way and just let em go. How do you expect defenses to do anything with the deck stacked against them?

Have subs ready to go at all times just like the offense does. Once a play is over, get them in and out as quick as possible just like the offense does.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
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Posted on 1/17/15 at 6:59 pm to
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However, to claim superiority over a team that beat you 30-0 is just silly.

Ok. So we're superior to Alabama then because we beat them?
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 1/17/15 at 7:01 pm to
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Have subs ready to go at all times just like the offense does. Once a play is over, get them in and out as quick as possible just like the offense does.
This is stupid. If you played football you'd know that offense is proactive while defense is reactive. There are personnel matchups you play. The offense is calling the shots, so there's no possibly way for the defense to be able to recognize every change and expect to have everything ready to go at the same time as the offense. Couple that with the fact that the offense can sub freely while the defense can only sub when it's even possible and it's just not even close to a level playing field.
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 1/17/15 at 7:02 pm to
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Ok. So we're superior to Alabama then because we beat them?
If the shoe fits wear it. Alabama wasn't some world beater this year.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
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Posted on 1/17/15 at 7:04 pm to
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This is stupid. If you played football you'd know that offense is proactive while defense is reactive.

I did play football and that's how we dealt with it. We had a base defense we would get in every week whenever we were playing someone who ran the HUNH and we would stay in it. If adjustments needed to be made, we did it during timeouts, when the offense was on the field or at halftime.
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Couple that with the fact that the offense can sub freely while the defense can only sub when it's even possible and it's just not even close to a level playing field.

The offense and defense can only sub between plays.
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 1/17/15 at 7:07 pm to
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The offense and defense can only sub between plays.
And the offense doesn't have to wait for a defensive sub.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 1/17/15 at 7:07 pm to
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The rulebook of football is slanted to give offense the advantage. Has nothing to do with coming up with ways to stop it. The team on offense completely dictates the game and there is nothing the defense can do about it.




I agree with this.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 1/17/15 at 7:09 pm to
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And the offense doesn't have to wait for a defensive sub.

Well, the defense should be quicker about getting players in. That's just the nature of the beast.
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