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re: Ole Miss - You pulled the offer from Fred Walls after he was committed?

Posted on 12/11/14 at 11:42 pm to
Posted by GoVols2003
Member since Aug 2010
436 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 11:42 pm to
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Didn't come to any camps or games, despite it
Being a 1 hour drive.


This is not true...I know this kid personally...

From the day he committed, he shut down his recruitment, even when other schools came calling. He went to most of Ole Miss home games this season as an unofficial visitor. I believe he missed 1-2 games including the Egg Bowl towards the end of the season due to an illness and another obligation. He was in frequent contact with his primary recruiter and has everything lined up to graduate in May as planned all along.


Btw... they had Alfred Dickens '14, same school, grey shirt this year...kid was at the local CC....they have dropped him as well.

If he had refused to camp and had not visited at all during the season and was looking around, as Ole Miss wants you to believe, then why not cut ties earlier? Why do they still want him to grey shirt, but not want him to look around between now and signing day if all that was true?


This post was edited on 12/11/14 at 11:58 pm
Posted by HailFreezusOver
Oxford
Member since Sep 2014
6223 posts
Posted on 12/12/14 at 12:02 am to
I would assume he had everything lined up to graduate in May, most high school seniors should be preparing that way.
Very unfortunate that the staff didn't see him as a fit anymore, he was committed prior to his senior year. They may have felt he hadn't developed enough.. Who knows.
What is known is the roster will be short on LBs next year and the team will need experienced lbs because unfortunately there won't be time to develop. They will probably need to bring in another Juco LB as well.

I hope the young man finds somewhere he can shine, and does great things in his career.
This post was edited on 12/12/14 at 12:09 am
Posted by GoVols2003
Member since Aug 2010
436 posts
Posted on 12/12/14 at 12:25 am to
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would assume he had everything lined up to graduate in May, most high school seniors should be preparing that way.
Very unfortunate that the staff didn't see him as a fit anymore, he was committed prior to his senior year. They may have felt he hadn't developed enough.. Who knows.
What is known is the roster will be short on LBs next year and the team will need experienced lbs because unfortunately there won't be time to develop. They will probably need to bring in another Juco LB as well.

I hope the young man finds somewhere he can shine, and does great things in his career.


Kid is in a sticky situation... Since he completely shut down his recruitment, he would have to find another school that a) has a need and wants him this late in the game 2) find a school that he is comfortable at as well.

I don't see him grey shirting and taking the chance that Ole Miss could dump him again next year....just a guess on my part. I would imagine he can either find a suitable fit or go the JUCO route.
Posted by HailFreezusOver
Oxford
Member since Sep 2014
6223 posts
Posted on 12/12/14 at 1:49 am to
Yeah grey shirting is not ideal because of what ifs. What if I don't go on scholarship after a year. what if I could start else where.
And also paying for the first year is an unwanted burden. Unless he can get a pail grant and mtag or similar grants and scholarships to cover it..
Did ole miss put him in touch with prospective schools that you know?
I would think Memphis, Arkansas state or Mizzou, or Juco like NW. Ms State maybe, but I think they are full at Lb, and Tennesse is overloaded with commits. If he has the grades vandy would be a nice situation.
I'm from desoto county I feel for him.

Posted by LaBornNRaised
Loomis blows
Member since Feb 2011
11004 posts
Posted on 12/12/14 at 7:01 am to
OM fans in this thread are pretty funny. Crushed State about the Virgil shite but acting like this isn't exactly the same. It is, DWI and take the shite talking just like the way y'all dished it.
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
Pensacola, Florida
Member since Dec 2013
15666 posts
Posted on 12/12/14 at 8:24 am to
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This is not true...I know this kid personally...

From the day he committed, he shut down his recruitment, even when other schools came calling. He went to most of Ole Miss home games this season as an unofficial visitor. I believe he missed 1-2 games including the Egg Bowl towards the end of the season due to an illness and another obligation. He was in frequent contact with his primary recruiter and has everything lined up to graduate in May as planned all along.


Btw... they had Alfred Dickens '14, same school, grey shirt this year...kid was at the local CC....they have dropped him as well.







Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
64647 posts
Posted on 12/12/14 at 9:41 am to
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OM fans in this thread are pretty funny. Crushed State about the Virgil shite but acting like this isn't exactly the same.




nah...it isn't he same.


Sorry you guys can't see that.
Posted by GoVols2003
Member since Aug 2010
436 posts
Posted on 12/12/14 at 6:51 pm to
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Yeah grey shirting is not ideal because of what ifs. What if I don't go on scholarship after a year. what if I could start else where.
And also paying for the first year is an unwanted burden. Unless he can get a pail grant and mtag or similar grants and scholarships to cover it..
Did ole miss put him in touch with prospective schools that you know?
I would think Memphis, Arkansas state or Mizzou, or Juco like NW. Ms State maybe, but I think they are full at Lb, and Tennesse is overloaded with commits. If he has the grades vandy would be a nice situation.
I'm from desoto county I feel for him.


I know that Mizzou, Memphis, and some smaller schools (like an Ark State) had been contacting him over the past year to keep tabs..based off what he had told me a while back. However, he really did not engage bc Ole Miss was the school he wanted. Its why he jumped at the offer a year ago.

Outside of that, I have heard there has been some back tracking the last few days and the lead recruiter (not sure of the name) may have some egg on his face so to speak bc his stories are not adding up nor are they consistent person to person. TTFWIW though, because that did not come straight from the kid or his coaches....that was just some fodder I heard around town.

Hope they kid can have a good showing at the All-Star game this weekend, but I believe he was out just over a month with a small injury and illness, so not sure what shape he might be in for this particular game.
Posted by HailFreezusOver
Oxford
Member since Sep 2014
6223 posts
Posted on 12/12/14 at 7:33 pm to
Yes they did. The difference was they wanted him to EE, they contacted the players coach not him personally, and 16 days before school his school was done.

Grey shirts aren't that flattering though. Kind of like getting your cake and eating it too.
Posted by TheNorthPlace
Listen to Big KRIT
Member since Dec 2012
1302 posts
Posted on 12/12/14 at 7:44 pm to
Right, I really don't see the big fuss. Virgil's coach went crazy, big deal.

Neither team needs to take guys that don't stack up. It is a problem with early commits I guess. I'm from OB too, so I hope he finds a good place for himself. I don't see how Memphis would pass him up at the very least.

As far as Dickens goes, we were not going to let him play football due to his head injury, so he went somewhere he was allowed to. We were very excited about Dickens before the injury.
Posted by HailFreezusOver
Oxford
Member since Sep 2014
6223 posts
Posted on 12/13/14 at 1:06 am to
I concur completely with your comment.

And though he would prefer to play in the SEC as he previously stated. One would think he would start a whole lot sooner at memphis.
Posted by 17theBears
Member since Apr 2012
6982 posts
Posted on 12/13/14 at 8:05 am to
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Did you guys offer Virgil a greyshirt?


Yes
Posted by GoVols2003
Member since Aug 2010
436 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 9:49 pm to
Heard today that on the heels of his performance at the MS/AL AllStar game, Fred has had a bunch of schools reach out, including several other SEC schools.
Posted by HailFreezusOver
Oxford
Member since Sep 2014
6223 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 10:07 pm to
Good news. I heard he had a pick in the all star game.
And we lose our LB coach to USF that would have been his position coach. Before the scholarship was pulled.
There is a dead period now. But he can get recruiting phone calls.
Posted by MaroonMonsoon
Canton
Member since Aug 2014
3875 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 10:13 pm to
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YouDontKnowBro


So mad
Posted by BallstotheWesleyWall
Swagosphere
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9364 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 10:42 pm to
You aren't fluent in trollanese yet are you?
This post was edited on 12/15/14 at 10:43 pm
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