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If Mizzou accomplishes the impossible, wins SECCG, and keeps SEC out of playoffs
Posted on 11/12/14 at 5:59 pm
Posted on 11/12/14 at 5:59 pm
will that say more about SEC strength this year or the terrible playoff structure?
in my opinion, the playoffs should have been created with at least 6 teams to be fair. 8 would be ideal. Guaranteed spots for the 5 conference winners from the 5 major conferences, plus a wild card team chosen from the independents/mid majors. The conference championship games would actually be the first unofficial playoff games, which from that perspective the playoff could be viewed as a 10 - 12 team playoff.
if a team cannot win the conference, that team does not deserve to be in the playoff.
screw rankings. win your damn conference.
in my opinion, the playoffs should have been created with at least 6 teams to be fair. 8 would be ideal. Guaranteed spots for the 5 conference winners from the 5 major conferences, plus a wild card team chosen from the independents/mid majors. The conference championship games would actually be the first unofficial playoff games, which from that perspective the playoff could be viewed as a 10 - 12 team playoff.
if a team cannot win the conference, that team does not deserve to be in the playoff.
screw rankings. win your damn conference.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 6:02 pm to mizzoukills
The reason they don't do this is because everybody would schedule cupcakes for their all of their non-conference games. Would be very boring football outside of conference play.
This post was edited on 11/12/14 at 6:03 pm
Posted on 11/12/14 at 6:04 pm to Dawgsontop34
who cares? you still have to win your conference.
this scenario would result in the rankings meaning very little and the conference championships meaning everything, which would make the regular season meaningful as well as the playoffs
this scenario would result in the rankings meaning very little and the conference championships meaning everything, which would make the regular season meaningful as well as the playoffs
Posted on 11/12/14 at 6:05 pm to mizzoukills
No offense but...
If Mizzo wins SEC championship and denies SEC a playoff spot then I would say the system worked exceptionally well.
If the best team from the West can't beat Mizzo (this years team) at the end of the season then there are better teams that are more deserving of a playoff spot.
If Mizzo wins SEC championship and denies SEC a playoff spot then I would say the system worked exceptionally well.
If the best team from the West can't beat Mizzo (this years team) at the end of the season then there are better teams that are more deserving of a playoff spot.
This post was edited on 11/12/14 at 6:07 pm
Posted on 11/12/14 at 6:08 pm to Tridentds
but that's not what would happen. a 1 loss West team like Miss State would jump a Mizzou team that beat them in the conference championship, which would make the conference championship meaningless...and to some degree the regular season.
if people want the regular season, conference champ games, and playoffs to be meaningful from start to finish, they'll create a playoff system like what I mentioned in the OP
otherwise, they have fricked up CFB more than the BCS system.
if people want the regular season, conference champ games, and playoffs to be meaningful from start to finish, they'll create a playoff system like what I mentioned in the OP
otherwise, they have fricked up CFB more than the BCS system.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 6:15 pm to mizzoukills
Jack Arute and Chizik have been saying the exact same thing all year long on Sirius radio.
What would be great is that if somehow the B12 winner is left out of the playoffs by the slimmest of margins because they didn't have the big game at the end of the year (conference championship game).
Basically every conference that has a championship game already has a "playoff game". Those that don't (B12) are getting a free pass.
In other words, I agree with you but only if all power conferences have a championship game.
What would be great is that if somehow the B12 winner is left out of the playoffs by the slimmest of margins because they didn't have the big game at the end of the year (conference championship game).
Basically every conference that has a championship game already has a "playoff game". Those that don't (B12) are getting a free pass.
In other words, I agree with you but only if all power conferences have a championship game.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 6:16 pm to Tridentds
well, in my scenario every conference would be required to have a championship game if they wanted to send a team to the playoffs.
pretty simple really.
pretty simple really.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 6:18 pm to mizzoukills
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in my scenario every conference would be required to have a championship game
Well you didn't say that originally. Come on man.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 6:21 pm to Tridentds
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Well you didn't say that originally.
Your argument has caught the dumb.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 6:21 pm to Tridentds
fair enough.
but seriously every major conference should have a championship game. the Big 12 should schedule one if they want to send a team to the playoff.
But this is logical thinking. The playoff committee has never been accused of logical thinking.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 6:21 pm to mizzoukills
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a team cannot win the conference, that team does not deserve to be in the playoff.
Cue Bama fans in 3 ....2 .... 1.
But yes. It's harder to win the sec title than it is/was the playoff/bcs. You can't finish 2nd in the west and win the sec title.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 6:23 pm to JaxTiger10
I just don't understand why the playoff committee didn't create the playoff this way. whatever their reasoning is won't make sense to me.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 6:24 pm to Tridentds
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No offense but... If Mizzo wins SEC championship and denies SEC a playoff spot then I would say the system worked exceptionally well. If the best team from the West can't beat Mizzo (this years team) at the end of the season then there are better teams that are more deserving of a playoff spot.
Yes.......if you can't beat MIZZIANA you's out of the playoff.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 6:27 pm to mizzoukills
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people want the regular season, conference champ games, and playoffs to be meaningful from start to finish, they'll create a playoff system like what I mentioned in the OP
The playoff needs 8 teams. 5 p5 conference champs and 3 at large bids. That way the coaches and players have 100% control over making the playoffs and there is a set criteria on making the playoffs. The BCS and the playoffs don't allow coaches and players to control their own destiny. After all the changes to the bowl system it's crazy that a p5 team could go undefeated and not make the playoffs.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 6:30 pm to JaxTiger10
I agree.
So why was it created this way?
So why was it created this way?
Posted on 11/12/14 at 6:35 pm to mizzoukills
The playoff structure is fine.
Mizzou isn't one of the best 4 teams in the country, even if they can win the SEC.
Mizzou isn't one of the best 4 teams in the country, even if they can win the SEC.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 6:37 pm to JaxTiger10
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JaxTiger10
If Mizzou accomplishes the impossible, wins SECCG, and keeps SEC out of playoffs
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people want the regular season, conference champ games, and playoffs to be meaningful from start to finish, they'll create a playoff system like what I mentioned in the OP
The playoff needs 8 teams. 5 p5 conference champs and 3 at large bids. That way the coaches and players have 100% control over making the playoffs and there is a set criteria on making the playoffs. The BCS and the playoffs don't allow coaches and players to control their own destiny. After all the changes to the bowl system it's crazy that a p5 team could go undefeated and not make the playoffs.
Stupid post is stupid. You can't say that "coaches and players would have 100% control"...but then give someone else control to let in 3 extra teams. That's not 100%. Nor can there be "set criteria" when you have to have a panel voting for 3 at large teams...just like we have a panel voting now. Makes no fricking sense.
This post was edited on 11/12/14 at 6:39 pm
Posted on 11/12/14 at 6:38 pm to mizzoukills
Expand the playoff to 8 teams and then the SEC can get rid of OOC and rotate the schedule so every team is playing each other every two yrs or however it works out, that would ensure a team or maybe 2 in the playoff every year from the SEC because SOS would be so strong, 2-3 losses does not matter as much because you're playing decent quality competition every week just like the NFL does. Man after typing that shite and reading it makes no sense and is dumb as hell................press enter
Posted on 11/12/14 at 6:41 pm to BamaGradinTn
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Stupid post is stupid. You can't say that "coaches and players would have 100% control"...but then give someone else control to let in 3 extra teams.
Yes they would. Coaches and players would have 100% control over making the playoffs by winning their conference. The at large bids are the only ones voted in.
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Nor can the be "set criteria" when you have to have a panel voting for 3 at large teams...just like we have a panel voting now.
Yes it can. The set criteria of making the playoffs, is winning your conference.
If you can understand this, you're dumb.
This post was edited on 11/12/14 at 6:43 pm
Posted on 11/12/14 at 6:43 pm to JoeMoTiger
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Man after typing that shite and reading it makes no sense and is dumb as hell................press enter
No, actually it's a great idea. As long as all the P5's do it.
Relegate the shitty OOC games to a couple exhibition games against the little sisters of the poor schools as a tune up.
Play a 10 or 11 game conference sked with a CCG.
Have an 8 team playoff.
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