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re: Seriously, if not Bham -- where should the SEC
Posted on 7/24/14 at 12:11 pm to rootisback
Posted on 7/24/14 at 12:11 pm to rootisback
New Orleans, Atlanta or Nashville just because any of those cities are better than Birmingham.
This post was edited on 7/24/14 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 7/24/14 at 12:26 pm to joeytiger
We are only the most successful and richest conference in history with an equitable distribution of money to all members, regardless of what they contribute.... but yeah we need a change
Posted on 7/24/14 at 12:32 pm to mattloc
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We are only the most successful and richest conference in history
So Birmingham is the reason for this?
How does that equate?
Posted on 7/24/14 at 12:38 pm to RD Dawg
not necessarily the reason but change just for the sake of change is foolish
Posted on 7/24/14 at 1:44 pm to mattloc
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change just for the sake of change is foolish
Several reason's for it a not just "change"
1)The SECCG is played there
2)Much bigger and better media infrastructure
Which town do you think the media would choose
during "SEC media days" if given the choice?
Atlanta, and wouldn't be close.
3)The hometown of 2 the SEC biggest sponsers
(Home Depot and Chic-Fil-A)not to mention Coke
4)Better and bigger airport to hanlde any type of
traffic to and from SEC institutions.Please,
nobody important would travel by car anyway.
5)College FB HOF and don't forget about the kickoff classic thats also played there.The SEC
FB season pretty much begins and ends in Atlanta.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 1:58 pm to RD Dawg
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Several reason's for it a not just "change"
1)The SECCG is played there
2)Much bigger and better media infrastructure Which town do you think the media would choose during "SEC media days" if given the choice? Atlanta, and wouldn't be close.
3)The hometown of 2 the SEC biggest sponsers (Home Depot and Chic-Fil-A)not to mention Coke
4)Better and bigger airport to hanlde any type of traffic to and from SEC institutions.Please, nobody important would travel by car anyway.
5)College FB HOF and don't forget about the kickoff classic thats also played there.The SEC FB season pretty much begins and ends in Atlanta
None of that has anything to do with where the SEC offices are. The SECCG is one day a year, everyone can easily drive/fly over. SEC media days can easily be in Atlanta while the offices stay in Bham. All Home Depot and Chick-fil-a do is write checks. Where in the SEC can you not fly to from Birmingham? What does the CFBHOF have to do with the SEC offices?
This post was edited on 7/24/14 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 7/24/14 at 2:26 pm to MrPackSix
It's not moving so why have the conversation?
Posted on 7/24/14 at 2:27 pm to pvilleguru
To be honest , After seeing how some Bammers and Barners act, I question the integrity of the current staff at the SEC offices. ANC with the new Billions on the line , just not so sure they should be running it.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 2:28 pm to NutBunnies
I recommend moving the SEC Office to Denver, Colorado. I also recommend that the SEC only hire football officials who grew up WEST of the 100th Meridian and have no ties at all to any SEC team.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 2:33 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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Anywhere that's not in the state of Alabama
Posted on 7/24/14 at 2:37 pm to GeorgeWest
They don't have to , not have any ties. But they shouldn't all have ties to 1-2 schools. That's why cities like Atlanta, Nashville, New Orleans makes more sense.
It should be in a diverse city not a town.
Just like NFL offices are in New York and not Green Bay.
It should be in a diverse city not a town.
Just like NFL offices are in New York and not Green Bay.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 2:48 pm to 3rddownonthe8
Houston would be the most impactful move. It's the largest city in the SEC footprint with a strong presence from 2 SEC schools. There is no market that has as much upside potential for the SEC to take over as there is in Texas. Dallas doesn't make sense because the Big 12 is already headquartered there. It also provides a nice bookend with the SECN offices in Charlotte. Atlanta or New Orleans are fine but those are already died in the wool SEC cities and they are both smaller than Houston.
Texas is the biggest SEC market and Houston is the largest SEC city, putting the headquarters there would put a true stake in the ground that it is SEC territory.
Texas is the biggest SEC market and Houston is the largest SEC city, putting the headquarters there would put a true stake in the ground that it is SEC territory.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 2:54 pm to pvilleguru
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All Hone Depot and Chic-Fil-A do is write checks
You cannot be this stupid.
Do you have ANY idea how the business of CFB works?
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The SECCG is one day a year
:rotflmao:
Once again, you cannot be this stupid again.
It the BIGGEST event of the year in the entire conference.
It's week long build up of THE show case event in the SEC.
It can be argued that moving this event to Atlanta was the single
most important move in the TV era for SEC FB other than the BCS.
Please give me one reason to have it in B'ham other than "It's alway been there"
Posted on 7/24/14 at 3:03 pm to RD Dawg
Because there's nothing to be gained by moving it. It will only cost money. It's just some a damn office building.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 7:55 am to aggressor
Not Houston. Best reason is that THEY WOULD HAVE TO PAY PREMIUM RENT ON CORPORATE SPACE(which is at an all time high for the forseable future). I doubt the city of Houston would give SEC the deal they are getting in Bham, $1 a year in rent for a very nice peice of property in downtown.
Additionally,
adding Texas did not make the SEC what it is today. ATM and Mizzou did help speed up plans for an SEC Channel, but the league was already strong before yall came asking for a home.
the Texas market is still dominated by fans that will first root for the Big 12. I feel almost embarrased for you that I have to remind you of this but Texas / TCU / Texas Tech fans outnumber ATM fans by a wide margin.
ATM has given the league more exposure in Houston/Texas. but far from the impact your alluding to.
The league also has a practice of not putting one school above another(equal TV distributions/vote) and moving it to Texas just to cater to a new market would go against one of the values of the SEC's mission statement.
And you dont cater to a new market by putting a HQ there. You put actual events there. But I doubt Houston will ever get a basketball tourney(in the next 10 years) ATM does not have agreat following for basketball which is the exact reason why St. Louis is getting a tourney.
ATM fans need to humble their perspective when it comes to their position in the league. they matter just a sequally as Alabama and Mississippi State. If they dont like it they can leave. Dont forget you asked us to join, not the other way around.
If the leage was all about Bama then we would be playin a 9 game schedule. I think we were the only school to be advocates of that change.
Additionally,
adding Texas did not make the SEC what it is today. ATM and Mizzou did help speed up plans for an SEC Channel, but the league was already strong before yall came asking for a home.
the Texas market is still dominated by fans that will first root for the Big 12. I feel almost embarrased for you that I have to remind you of this but Texas / TCU / Texas Tech fans outnumber ATM fans by a wide margin.
ATM has given the league more exposure in Houston/Texas. but far from the impact your alluding to.
The league also has a practice of not putting one school above another(equal TV distributions/vote) and moving it to Texas just to cater to a new market would go against one of the values of the SEC's mission statement.
And you dont cater to a new market by putting a HQ there. You put actual events there. But I doubt Houston will ever get a basketball tourney(in the next 10 years) ATM does not have agreat following for basketball which is the exact reason why St. Louis is getting a tourney.
ATM fans need to humble their perspective when it comes to their position in the league. they matter just a sequally as Alabama and Mississippi State. If they dont like it they can leave. Dont forget you asked us to join, not the other way around.
If the leage was all about Bama then we would be playin a 9 game schedule. I think we were the only school to be advocates of that change.
This post was edited on 7/25/14 at 8:00 am
Posted on 7/25/14 at 8:03 am to cjared036
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ATM fans need to humble their perspective when it comes to their position in the league.
frick that.
We'll preen and crow to our hearts content and y'all will deal with it. frick this be quiet bullshite.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 8:08 am to rootisback
Nashville works for me. Really, anywhere outside of Alabama would be an improvement.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 8:09 am to pvilleguru
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Where in the SEC can you not fly to from Birmingham?
I do not know of an airport in a single city with an SEC school that has flights to Birmingham. They all must connect through a hub city...typically Atlanta.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 8:29 am to TbirdSpur2010
well you fans can be as arrogant as you want i guess. But your admins, including your AD who came from South Carolina(i am sure he understands how/why the SEC works so well) will not be as dumb.
Congrats on 3rd in the SEC West.
Congrats on 3rd in the SEC West.
This post was edited on 7/25/14 at 8:30 am
Posted on 7/25/14 at 9:46 am to cjared036
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Not Houston. Best reason is that THEY WOULD HAVE TO PAY PREMIUM RENT ON CORPORATE SPACE(which is at an all time high for the forseable future). I doubt the city of Houston would give SEC the deal they are getting in Bham, $1 a year in rent for a very nice peice of property in downtown.
Additionally,
adding Texas did not make the SEC what it is today. ATM and Mizzou did help speed up plans for an SEC Channel, but the league was already strong before yall came asking for a home.
the Texas market is still dominated by fans that will first root for the Big 12. I feel almost embarrased for you that I have to remind you of this but Texas / TCU / Texas Tech fans outnumber ATM fans by a wide margin.
ATM has given the league more exposure in Houston/Texas. but far from the impact your alluding to.
The league also has a practice of not putting one school above another(equal TV distributions/vote) and moving it to Texas just to cater to a new market would go against one of the values of the SEC's mission statement.
And you dont cater to a new market by putting a HQ there. You put actual events there. But I doubt Houston will ever get a basketball tourney(in the next 10 years) ATM does not have agreat following for basketball which is the exact reason why St. Louis is getting a tourney.
ATM fans need to humble their perspective when it comes to their position in the league. they matter just a sequally as Alabama and Mississippi State. If they dont like it they can leave. Dont forget you asked us to join, not the other way around.
If the leage was all about Bama then we would be playin a 9 game schedule. I think we were the only school to be advocates of that change.
Cheap rent is not exactly something that should be a big deal to the SEC offices and I wouldn't be surprised if the City of Houston wouldn't come up with a package if that was really an issue.
Obviously Texas didn't make the SEC what it is today, A&M has only been in the conference 2 years. Texas is the largest market though and has the most potential for growth. That is the point.
I hate to tell you this but the most recent survey showed A&M to have more fans than Texas. Tech is a very minor player outside of West Texas in terms of fans, it is over 500 miles from Houston. TCU has about 20 fans and they are almost all in DFW. Houston DOES have a ton of LSU fans though as well as other SEC schools. It's the 4th largest city in the US and yet it has no Big 5 Conference schools located there.
You do actually cater to a market with an HQ there because if the SEC offices are in Houston then far more Texas reporters will cover SEC stories that are generated out of the SEC offices. There are about a million more people in the Houston Metro than the entire State of Alabama. It's a huge potential market that is growing in SEC interest.
People from Houston also have one thing in common, they absolutely hate Dallas and Dallas is where the Big 12 is HQ'ed. It is already culturally becoming more of an SEC town because it has the highest number of A&M Grads and the oil industry is so big there (which is dominated by A&M Grads) as well as being the largest population of LSU grads outside of Louisiana.
I also don't think putting the HQ in Texas suddenly means A&M gets favorable treatment at all. I do find it funny that a Bama fan thinks this is a reason to lecture Aggies though on "knowing our place" and "all things are equal" while the SEC Offices are just down the road from Tuscaloosa though. A&M may be new to the conference but we are the largest and richest school from the largest state with the most growth potential. I don't think we deserve special treatment but neither does Bama, everyone brings something to the table.
I do think that the conference offices would be better suited in a major city though, be it Houston, Atlanta, or New Orleans moreso than Birmingham. Even Houston's second Airport (Hobby) is busier than Bham and Atlanta is the busiest in the US. Access matters.
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