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re: Minnesota homeowner goes on trial for teen intruders' deaths
Posted on 4/23/14 at 6:07 am to Roger Klarvin
Posted on 4/23/14 at 6:07 am to Roger Klarvin
NEWSFLASH! Dear "Teens",
DON'T BREAK INTO PEOPLES' HOUSES AND YOU WON'T GET SHOT.
Sincerely,
'Merica.
frick Minnesota. And frick 'teens' who break into houses.
Kill em all and let God sort em out, if they break in to occupied dwellings.
IDGAF.
A man's home is his castle.
Anybody ever research what people used to do to castle invaders?
How about drawn/quartered? Burned alive? Various body parts amputated?
Home invasions would decrease if consequences were real. Some boiling oil dumped onto the front porch when the breach was occurring would have prevented these innocent teens from going into the basement thus saving their miserable worthless lives.
And providing them with an ever-present personal reminder that breaking into others' homes is not a good idea and that it is not the way civilized people act.
Our ancestors understood this, well at least those with European, Middle Eastern, Asian or Latin American heritage.
S/S/SU
DON'T BREAK INTO PEOPLES' HOUSES AND YOU WON'T GET SHOT.
Sincerely,
'Merica.
frick Minnesota. And frick 'teens' who break into houses.
Kill em all and let God sort em out, if they break in to occupied dwellings.
IDGAF.
A man's home is his castle.
Anybody ever research what people used to do to castle invaders?
How about drawn/quartered? Burned alive? Various body parts amputated?
Home invasions would decrease if consequences were real. Some boiling oil dumped onto the front porch when the breach was occurring would have prevented these innocent teens from going into the basement thus saving their miserable worthless lives.
And providing them with an ever-present personal reminder that breaking into others' homes is not a good idea and that it is not the way civilized people act. Our ancestors understood this, well at least those with European, Middle Eastern, Asian or Latin American heritage.
S/S/SU
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Posted on 4/23/14 at 6:10 am to WNCTiger
People like you give us gun rights individuals a bad name.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 6:11 am to TbirdSpur2010
It depends on your context.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 6:22 am to TbirdSpur2010
Yep.
Also, his historical context is awful. Hanging/drawing/quartering was a punishment reserved to acts of high treason. Burning someone alive was usually reserved for religious oriented executions carried out by the state (the church would never officially kill someone).
Also, the idea that hard punishment scares people off is not true IMHO. I read a ton of history. And I've read about some times where being drawn and quartered would get you off light. Did that stop people in the 1000s? Not in the slightest.
Also, his historical context is awful. Hanging/drawing/quartering was a punishment reserved to acts of high treason. Burning someone alive was usually reserved for religious oriented executions carried out by the state (the church would never officially kill someone).
Also, the idea that hard punishment scares people off is not true IMHO. I read a ton of history. And I've read about some times where being drawn and quartered would get you off light. Did that stop people in the 1000s? Not in the slightest.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 6:28 am to Charlestondawg
quote:Oh yeah, completely agree.
None of this would have happened if they weren't in his house.
quote:No doubt. I'd hate to think of what he'd do if my dog repeatedly shite on his lawn
But yeah he's off the res
Posted on 4/23/14 at 6:29 am to TbirdSpur2010
quote:
And I'm as big of a pro gun-rights/home defense guy as you'll run across, but there's a point where after the threat has obviously been neutralized, you alert the authorities and let things run their course from there.
Exactly.
I feel no sympathy for the 2 intruders, you break into someone's house, that's a risk you take. But letting the bodies sit in your basement for an entire day before alerting the authorities is fricked up.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 6:30 am to athenslife101
Agree.
And the real point is that the purpose of home guardianship (for lack of a better term, I'm sorry, I'm tired ) is to protect the integrity of the house.
A home (or property) invasion is not authorization for home owners to go all Rambo and extract glee from it. And the vast majority of homeowners that have lived through such a scenario simply did what they had to do, but no more.
The actions of this dude were way past the point of simple home protection, IMO. Again, assuming I'm not missing any context.
ETA: You know what? frick my context statement. There's no reasonable explanation for the sick shite this guy did. Shoot 'em, make sure they're down/stopped, call the cops.
And the real point is that the purpose of home guardianship (for lack of a better term, I'm sorry, I'm tired
) is to protect the integrity of the house. A home (or property) invasion is not authorization for home owners to go all Rambo and extract glee from it. And the vast majority of homeowners that have lived through such a scenario simply did what they had to do, but no more.
The actions of this dude were way past the point of simple home protection, IMO. Again, assuming I'm not missing any context.
ETA: You know what? frick my context statement. There's no reasonable explanation for the sick shite this guy did. Shoot 'em, make sure they're down/stopped, call the cops.
This post was edited on 4/23/14 at 6:32 am
Posted on 4/23/14 at 6:41 am to The Nino
They should throw the probation book at this guy.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 6:45 am to WNCTiger
quote:
WNCTiger
Ever have to take someone's life? My guess is that you haven't. I'm a gun owner, and if I had to kill an intruder to protect myself, my family, or my property, I could and would without hesitation. But I certainly wouldn't enjoy the experience, and I hope I'm never put in that position.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 6:47 am to AU4real35
quote:
Obviously, you've been robbed before.. Correct?
No. If I was I'd do my damnedest to kill the thief or die trying however.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 6:49 am to Roger Klarvin
And? They broke into his home. Does not matter if they are no longer threats they. Premeditated or not he had every reason and right to kill them IMO.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 7:05 am to 7Dollarbill
quote:
he had every reason and right to kill them
No
Posted on 4/23/14 at 7:38 am to Roger Klarvin
A club owner in Denver did the same thing a few years back. Place kept getting broken into so he waited in the dark with a gun. Blasted the intruder and went to prison. Colorado has the "stand your ground" law where you can kill anyone that poses a threat to you in your house.... turns out it doesn't apply to businesses.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 9:55 am to roadhouse
quote:Hmm, he definitely should have looked that up ahead of time
Colorado has the "stand your ground" law where you can kill anyone that poses a threat to you in your house.... turns out it doesn't apply to businesses.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 9:59 am to The Nino
Also, just because someone is an intruder doesn't mean he's a threat.
None of these compare to the story out of Texas last year. Man thinks he hires prostitute. Woman is not willing to fulfill her end of the transaction. He kills her for stealing. He is not charged. Something doesn't quite add up/
None of these compare to the story out of Texas last year. Man thinks he hires prostitute. Woman is not willing to fulfill her end of the transaction. He kills her for stealing. He is not charged. Something doesn't quite add up/
Posted on 4/23/14 at 10:03 am to TbirdSpur2010
Ya not really at all.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 10:12 am to athenslife101
quote:
Man thinks he hires prostitute. Woman is not willing to fulfill her end of the transaction. He kills her for stealing. He is not charged. Something doesn't quite add up/
Why didn't she fulfill her end of the deal?
Posted on 4/23/14 at 10:39 am to athenslife101
quote:
That is a seriously disturbing and stupid line of thinking.
So you're a thieving piece of shite that wants to be protected if you're ever caught.
This post was edited on 4/23/14 at 10:49 am
Posted on 4/23/14 at 10:44 am to athenslife101
quote:
None of these compare to the story out of Texas last year. Man thinks he hires prostitute. Woman is not willing to fulfill her end of the transaction. He kills her for stealing. He is not charged. Something doesn't quite add up/
If she didn't perform then I guess she's stealing. Easy solution is to never pay beforehand... and check to make sure it isn't a tranny before engaging.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 10:44 am to InVolNerable
I'm sure some idiot like Valerie Jarrett or Shiela Jackson Lee will will eventually attempt to get taxpayers to fund body armor for convicted felons. "If we can save just one life. ......."
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