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re: AU non-believers...what is AU's glaring weakness....
Posted on 11/8/13 at 9:26 am to WareagleKK
Posted on 11/8/13 at 9:26 am to WareagleKK
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I think we have talent where you have to have talent to beat Bama.....the LOS. We go 12 deep on the DL and have 7 highly recruited, very very good OL that we rotate in.
You're 81st in Rushing Defense. Not exactly a good matchup for Bama or UGA
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But we're 3rd in the conference in scoring D because our Red Zone defense is absolutely fantastic. That seems to be a trending statistic that teams focus on, and we do that very well. We score TDs when we're inside the 20 and we force FGs when our opponents are.
Yes, your red zone scoring percentage D is very good. Three behind Bama in NCAA. Your average redzone scoring is pedestrian 49th. Bama's is 1. Your scoring offense is 33rd. Bama is 9. UGA is 30. Basically there is no stat that points to Auburn having an advantage or even being even with Bama. Better shot at UGA
Posted on 11/8/13 at 9:26 am to WareagleKK
Secondary
Linebackers
Passing game
Linebackers
Passing game
Posted on 11/8/13 at 9:30 am to StopRobot
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You're 81st in Rushing Defense.
No, we are 50th.
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Your average redzone scoring is pedestrian 49th. Bama's is 1.
No, our redzone offense is 21...Bamas is 56, nationally.
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Your scoring offense is 33rd. Bama is 9.
No, our scoring offense is 28, Bama is 10.
Posted on 11/8/13 at 9:33 am to Lg
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but is pretty good in the red zone except to power running (see LSU).
actually i believe LSU only scored two rushing TDs from the red zone and we shut Arky down in the RZ for the most part.
I do want to see more balance on offense from Auburn, but i think we just haven't been because we haven't had to. If teams can't stop it, no reason to put the ball in jeopardy, ya know?
Posted on 11/8/13 at 9:33 am to WareagleKK
I think Auburn is ranked appropriately. I don't know about "glaring weaknesses" and I haven't seen Auburn play enough to give more than a fairly cursory opinion. With that said, if a team can put Auburn in a position where they have to pass (either by stopping Auburn's run game or getting a big lead - both easier said than done), then my question is can Marshall get it done if he has to carry a heavier load with his arm? I normally like a lot more balance than the current 440 rush / 197 pass ratio Auburn currently has. It has worked and it's possible that Auburn will simply be able to run on everyone.
On the defensive side of the ball, Auburn looks so beatable until you get in the red zone where they have been very good. The pass defense (yards/game) is 13th in the conference and the total defense (yards/game) is 11th in the conference. However, they keep teams out of the end zone which is ultimately what counts. However, you don't usually see as much of a spread between yards/per game given up and points/game given up over the course of a season as you currently due for Auburn so I would be a little concerned at the way teams are able to move the ball. You don't necessarily want to make your living full time by having to stop teams in the red zone.
These are more statistical observations, but like I said, I think Auburn deserves its current ranking is a very good team that does the things needed to win without being dominant in most phases (except obviously running the ball).
On the defensive side of the ball, Auburn looks so beatable until you get in the red zone where they have been very good. The pass defense (yards/game) is 13th in the conference and the total defense (yards/game) is 11th in the conference. However, they keep teams out of the end zone which is ultimately what counts. However, you don't usually see as much of a spread between yards/per game given up and points/game given up over the course of a season as you currently due for Auburn so I would be a little concerned at the way teams are able to move the ball. You don't necessarily want to make your living full time by having to stop teams in the red zone.
These are more statistical observations, but like I said, I think Auburn deserves its current ranking is a very good team that does the things needed to win without being dominant in most phases (except obviously running the ball).
Posted on 11/8/13 at 9:36 am to parkjas2001
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No, we are 50th.
58th. 81st was total yards per game. My bad
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No, our redzone offense is 21...Bamas is 56, nationally.
Referring to redzone scoring by your opponent. Not Auburn's
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No, our scoring offense is 28, Bama is 10.
Incorrect
Posted on 11/8/13 at 9:37 am to WareagleKK
Depth - still thin
Experience - still learning to win again
QB - still not sold on him; Malzahn made Chris Todd look awesome
Defense - young talent but green; experienced ones are not very talented.
Gimmick offense - self expanatory
Experience - still learning to win again
QB - still not sold on him; Malzahn made Chris Todd look awesome
Defense - young talent but green; experienced ones are not very talented.
Gimmick offense - self expanatory
Posted on 11/8/13 at 9:37 am to StopRobot
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Yes, your red zone scoring percentage D is very good. Three behind Bama in NCAA. Your average redzone scoring is pedestrian 49th. Bama's is 1. Your scoring offense is 33rd. Bama is 9. UGA is 30. Basically there is no stat that points to Auburn having an advantage or even being even with Bama. Better shot at UGA
You've played much, much worse defenses overall than Auburn has. Auburn is averaging 6.3 ypc compared to Bama's 5.9, so we do have that. But just because we're statistically a few places behind Bama in those categories doesn't mean you've got some huge advantage. If it is relatively close, it's likely a wash. I would take our OL and DL over yours though, going off of production and talent from those spots. And that is where I feel our advantage is.
But your conference schedule has been pretty weak overall with you getting Kentucky, in addition to Tennessee, instead of Georgia (like AU gets).
Posted on 11/8/13 at 9:38 am to WareagleKK
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what is AU's glaring weakness....
alabama
Posted on 11/8/13 at 9:40 am to GABlueDog
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Depth - still thin
???
Aside from the secondary, where???
Posted on 11/8/13 at 9:42 am to GABlueDog
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Depth - still thin
Not at all. We're about 25 deep on defense. Hence why we're the best 4th quarter team in the SEC. We stay fresh, especially on the DL.
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Experience - still learning to win again
agreed
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QB - still not sold on him; Malzahn made Chris Todd look awesome
Not sure how that is a weakness. If Malzahn is what makes the QB look awesome and Malzahn is still here, that is a strength.
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Defense - young talent but green; experienced ones are not very talented.
For the most part, i agree. But Ryan Smith, Ryan White and Chris Davis have all been very good in the secondary in their assignemnts. Holland sucks. Craig Sanders has actually been one of our best DEs against the run. No stars really, but they're solid.
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Gimmick offense - self expanatory
That's just ignorance on your part. No gimmicks about it. It's a power running to set up play action offense, run out of the shotgun.
Posted on 11/8/13 at 9:42 am to GABlueDog
quote:only in the secondary and at lb.
Depth - still thin
quote:meh, pretty much a throw away statement that lacks any real substance
Experience - still learning to win again
quote:He is a great athlete that can throw the ball. I don't know if we can beat Bama and Georgia unless he turns into a more accurate passer.
QB - still not sold on him; Malzahn made Chris Todd look awesome
quote:Partially true, but a little too broad brush.
Defense - young talent but green; experienced ones are not very talented.
quote:Whatever you label it, it has been pretty consistently effective.
Gimmick offense - self expanatory
Posted on 11/8/13 at 9:44 am to StopRobot
quote:Your stats are different because you aren't including all games. That is fine, but you need to spell it out to avoid the confusion.
StopRobot
Posted on 11/8/13 at 9:46 am to WDE24
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Your stats are different because you aren't including all games.
That site is not including the WCU game and only counting stats for 8 games, not 9.
Posted on 11/8/13 at 9:47 am to Lg
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but is pretty good in the red zone except to power running (see LSU)
You won't be seeing any more exotic 5 man fronts from AU. Once they went back to base D, they slowed down LSU. I don't know what Johnson was thinking that day.
Posted on 11/8/13 at 9:48 am to AUsteriskPride
Sooooo really this thread should have been "Come in and tell me what I want to hear."
Posted on 11/8/13 at 9:49 am to StopRobot
Your stats are wrong and that's not surprising
Posted on 11/8/13 at 9:51 am to StopRobot
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Sooooo really this thread should have been "Come in and tell me what I want to hear."
By giving counter-arguments? I'm sure you wouldn't defend UA with one, amiright?
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