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re: Article: Johnny Manziel's 'crimes' are apparently worse than Jeremy Hill's

Posted on 8/10/13 at 2:17 pm to
Posted by LSUNV
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Posted on 8/10/13 at 2:17 pm to



Dude he is a muzzoura fan? They are too busy refilling Pinkel's drink
This post was edited on 8/10/13 at 2:27 pm
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
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Posted on 8/10/13 at 2:23 pm to
So, who is going to be the ATM QB this season?
Posted by LSUNV
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Posted on 8/10/13 at 2:26 pm to
Prolly a walkon
Posted by DMagic
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Posted on 8/10/13 at 2:26 pm to
JFF
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58952 posts
Posted on 8/10/13 at 3:59 pm to
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Hill didn't rape anyone. If you weren't so stupid you would already know that.


I've never seen where anyone said Hill raped anybody. Where did you get that? he had sex with a minor. Oral SEX. He pleaded DOWN his charges so he could get probation. No problem with that. BUT, conditions of probation are...if you violate that probation, you go to jail. He violated that probation, did he not?

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The guy that Hill hit should not have been running his drunk mouth.


So if a drunk runs his mouth, you feel it is ok to sucker punch him in the back of the head? Oooook.

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Hill should have used better judgement being in the high profile position that he's in,


Hill should have used better judgement because he was on PROBATION. Do you sneak up behind every drunk running his mouth and cold cock him?

Not the death chamber...but not telling him "Now, don't do that again!" which is essentially what the court did. And you guys are aplauding it. THAT is what bothers most people. YOUR reaction...not Hills.
Posted by cajunjj
Madison, AL
Member since May 2008
7427 posts
Posted on 8/10/13 at 4:18 pm to
Can't believe a GUMP would want to talk about thugs.Jesus. If I remember correctly LSU kicked JFF's arse last year! I think it was Bama that A&M beat.
This post was edited on 8/10/13 at 4:28 pm
Posted by Aggie Dynasty
USA
Member since Jul 2013
2103 posts
Posted on 8/10/13 at 6:23 pm to
I have a few questions...

1. Did 18 year old adult Jeremy Hill receive his BJ from 14 year old minor girl on school property?

2. So he received no jail time for the sexual offense, goes on probation, wears the LSU colors in the sucker punch video, knows he is on probation, but feels he can do as he damn well pleases? And the LSU graduate Judges are once again lenient, with no jail time, even rigging his curfew time to be able to PLAY LSU Football at night? Miles lets the team vote on whether he is allowed to stay on team? Seriously?

3. I haven't seen ONE LSU person step up and say this is very wrong. It makes it look like LSU is doing whatever actions it can to make sure this guy plays football this season, regardless of his criminal behavior. All the other SEC member universities see what is going on, but it goes right over the heads of LSU posters on this site. Remember, A&M is new to the SEC, but is this what LSU is about, win at all cost?
Posted by ChineseBandit93
Member since Jul 2013
29 posts
Posted on 8/10/13 at 7:28 pm to
Didn't JM have a little bar fight that Sumlin swept under the rug. aggies need to know JM's rap sheet before they go after Hill. At least Hill didn't put the kid in the hospital
Posted by LSUANDY25
Frisco
Member since Dec 2012
3087 posts
Posted on 8/10/13 at 7:31 pm to
There is nothing worse or more selfish for an amateur team sport player than accepting money, because it cheats his school, teammates and coaches for several years. Kids are told over and over and over again what they can and cant do.There is no doubt after Johnny won the Heisman this was reiterated another 100 times to him. Johnny was well aware of how this could affect everyone involved at A&M and still did it. He had plenty of chances to think this out and make the right decision. A&M being a military, code of honor school just makes it that much worse.
If Johnny was just another guy hed be gone in a second. If he werent bringing in millions, he'd be an after thought right now. Its sad that a military school and its leaders have stooped to this level just to have a winning team and the money that Johnny brings in. Im sure the Aggie military personnel that were involved in the latest wars, really appreciate this code of honor. And how its being addressed. "Lawyer up" and we will keep Johnny on the field and he may take another 7,500 or two before its over. What an insult to your military personnel that are serving our country, rescuing their fellow man and risking their own lives for others for $2.00 an hour.

That doesnt excuse Hill's behavior at all. But his actions only affect him and was a spur of the moment event.
There is no excuse for any of u Aggies to try and give excuses for this selfish piss ant. Any one arguing on Johnny's behalf is admitting its about having a good football team at whatever the cost. You guys are on the wrong side.



This post was edited on 8/10/13 at 8:00 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66982 posts
Posted on 8/10/13 at 7:55 pm to
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1. Did 18 year old adult Jeremy Hill receive his BJ from 14 year old minor girl on school property?


Yes
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2. So he received no jail time for the sexual offense, goes on probation, wears the LSU colors in the sucker punch video, knows he is on probation, but feels he can do as he damn well pleases? And the LSU graduate Judges are once again lenient, with no jail time, even rigging his curfew time to be able to PLAY LSU Football at night? Miles lets the team vote on whether he is allowed to stay on team? Seriously?


Apparently some people don't think these things are that big a deal. Misdemeanors aren't that big a deal, so the judge though derailing a persons life wasn't worth it.
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3. I haven't seen ONE LSU person step up and say this is very wrong. It makes it look like LSU is doing whatever actions it can to make sure this guy plays football this season, regardless of his criminal behavior. All the other SEC member universities see what is going on, but it goes right over the heads of LSU posters on this site. Remember, A&M is new to the SEC, but is this what LSU is about, win at all cost?


I don't really think there is much wrong about the blowjob was its against the law. And sure its wrong to punch people, but he wasn't exactly beating this guy within an inch of his life. Do you think you should go to jail, or be fired form your job for one punch? I don't think a student would be expelled form LSU for either of these things.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 8/10/13 at 8:00 pm to
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There is nothing worse or more selfish for an amateur team sport player than accepting money


I cannot believe you typed that with a straight face.

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A&M being a military, code of honor school just makes it that much worse.
If Johnny was just another guy hed be gone in a second. No school can afford to get put on multiple year probation and be ineligible for bowl games. If he werent bringing in millions, he'd be an after thought right now. Its sad that a military school and its leaders have stooped to this level just to have a winning team and the money that Johnny brings in. Im sure our military personnel that were involved in the latest wars really appreciate this code of honor. What an insult to our military personnel that are out there rescuing their fellow man and risking their lives for the rest of us for $2.00 an hour.


I love how haters only play the military school card when someone goes against the honor code. Any other time, how dare we compare ourselves to military academies?

Go frick yourself.
This post was edited on 8/10/13 at 8:14 pm
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
24267 posts
Posted on 8/10/13 at 8:12 pm to
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I don't really think there is much wrong about the blowjob was its against the law. And sure its wrong to punch people, but he wasn't exactly beating this guy within an inch of his life. Do you think you should go to jail, or be fired form your job for one punch? I don't think a student would be expelled form LSU for either of these things.




know how I know some of you are very young or still don't have a job. If you work and are not a student, go up to a guy punch him one time hard from behind and see of you still have a job.
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
24267 posts
Posted on 8/10/13 at 8:17 pm to
You're redefining the issue he is an 18 yr old adult who received sexual favor from a 14 yr old girl. The punch while wrong doesn't bother me as much as it shows he has no remorse for his actions. You justify this as its ok to hit someone because they run their mouth (which by the way you have no evidence of what he said if anything) but you sit here and call everyone else stupid. The fact that you are so ignorant to your position is what is really sad.
Posted by LSUANDY25
Frisco
Member since Dec 2012
3087 posts
Posted on 8/10/13 at 8:29 pm to
T Bird
Go frick yourself.

2 wrongs dont make a right. For u to try and compare Johnny's crap to someone else because it happened to come about at the same time is crap. I got a DUI but the cop that arrested me got one too the day after? And......
A&M is a military school period. Whether u like it or not. And the leaders of that school should have some fricking class and integrity and should step up and do the right thing. Its all about the money that he makes them, is why they are lawyering up. LSU would get their money whether Hill is on the team or not. This is solely about money and is shameful IMO. How can any of u guys continue to make excuses for this guy with a str8 face.
U can take my military portion out of the topic, this is about Johnny doing something inexcusable on any team sport.

This post was edited on 8/10/13 at 9:07 pm
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 8/10/13 at 8:35 pm to
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2 wrongs dont make a right. For u to try and compare Johnny's crap to someone else because it happened to come about at the same time is crap.


I haven't said jack shite about Hill, nor have I followed or care about his case, so save your self righteous lecture for someone it applies to.

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A&M is a military school period. Whether u like it or not.


Dude, I went to A&M and I'm IN the military right now. I don't need you to tell me what A&M is or is not

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T Bird
Go frick yourself.


NO.............U!!!!!!!!!
Posted by LSUANDY25
Frisco
Member since Dec 2012
3087 posts
Posted on 8/10/13 at 8:51 pm to
Im a third generation military man myself, my son will make it 4 and if u could read, u would understand the question that the OP asked.

To compare Johnny's and A&M's actions to anyone else is such a self serving cop out. He took money and exposed his entire school to harm because he wanted some rims on his car. Thats really cool dont u think?

U know this is all about the money and nothing else. Whether Hill is on LSU's team or not they are going to get almost every penny either way. Johnny being allowed to play; he's at practice today btw not even a suspension, is crap, military or not.
And u for one should be more pissed about this than anyone. Are u arguing that Johnny should be on the team or not? Take a stand son.




This post was edited on 8/10/13 at 8:53 pm
Posted by supersaints9
Colleyville,Tx
Member since Dec 2009
14212 posts
Posted on 8/10/13 at 8:54 pm to
The ignorance that I'm referring to is ;
1) people referring to Hill as a thug pos
2)calling him a violent sexual predator
3)ridiculing Miles for his handling of the situation
4)suggesting that he deserves to be kicked off the team

I could go on all night with the bullshite that I've read on this board.
FYI, No I don't go around cold cocking drunk people for running their mouth, but I'm also not gonna pretend what it would be like to be black and somebody call me the "N" word.
If that's what was even said. There were people stating that, but your right I don't know if that's exactly what was said.
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT NEITHER DO YOU.

Bottom line is I wouldn't feel any differently if we were talking about a player at Bama. He should and will miss playing time over this. How much? I don't know, but I'm not the head coach of LSU so it's not my call. It's nobody's call but Miles, and to hear all you " experts" who feel entitled to inject your wisdom from all of your experience from being a head coach is overwhelming.
I honestly feel that this is way overblown and I would be saying the same thing if we were talking about one of Bama's players.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 8/10/13 at 8:57 pm to
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Im a third generation military man myself, my son will make it 4 and if u could read, u would understand the question that the OP asked.


You are extremely mad.

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To compare Johnny's and A&M's actions to anyone else is such a self serving cop out.


I haven't compared anyone to anything, just laughed at your assertion that an athlete taking money was the worst thing they could do when we've had jokers like Aaron Hernandez and Carlton Dotson run through the system.

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He took money and exposed his entire school to harm because he wanted some rims on his car. Thats really cool dont u think?


If YOU could read any of my posts, I've already said JFF is a dumbass and a douche.



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And u for one should be more pissed about this than anyone. Are u arguing that Johnny should be on the team or not? Take a stand son.


Sorry I don't allow the actions of 20-somethings I've never met affect my mood. You need to get a grip.

I'm not arguing anything in this thread, just laughing at your over the top reactions, tbh
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84927 posts
Posted on 8/10/13 at 8:59 pm to
IDGAF about his actions but hopefully he will be suspended
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 8/10/13 at 8:59 pm to
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1) people referring to Hill as a thug pos


In all fairness, I view every player for every SEC school other than a&m as a tPOS

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