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re: Can A&M become the premier University in Texas?

Posted on 4/2/13 at 11:34 pm to
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 4/2/13 at 11:34 pm to
SMU is a shitty school run by thugs and costs 7-8 times as much as A&M. You little ponies suck donkey shite and you know it. Won't be long until your Deadman law school is overshadowed by A&M's.


Poooooor worthless pony left-behinds.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60280 posts
Posted on 4/2/13 at 11:36 pm to
The best part is that when Chase Koch takes over Koch Industries an Aggie will actually be the CEO of the largest private company
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
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Posted on 4/2/13 at 11:38 pm to
Posted by LSUNV
In the woods or on the water
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Posted on 4/2/13 at 11:39 pm to
Posted by DWag215
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2011
7233 posts
Posted on 4/2/13 at 11:44 pm to
Let's be fair, Shane. Forbes says Koch is #2 behind Cargill (last time I checked the association of former students, 97 Ags receive a paycheck from Cargill).

Didn't see Hunt in Forbes' top 20. Our Mustang-loving friend must be using some esoteric metric unknown to poor Aggy.
This post was edited on 4/2/13 at 11:52 pm
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60280 posts
Posted on 4/2/13 at 11:52 pm to
My apologies. I clearly overrated the capabilities of us simple farming folk
Posted by Ergo Proxy
College Station, Texas
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 4/3/13 at 12:02 am to


I just moved to Seattle and my boss is an Aggie. How is that for networking.
Posted by holy shinto
Member since Jan 2009
107 posts
Posted on 4/3/13 at 12:57 am to
A&M's business and engineering schools, both graduate and undergraduate, are consistently ranked right up there with Texas, nationally.

When it comes to national rankings in most of these disciplines, Texas may always be slightly ahead. When it comes to lib arts and other select degrees, Texas will always be on top. But if you ever want a job in Houston or Dallas, two of the biggest job markets, or if you want to be in the oil & gas industry, and you think Texas has a better "network", you're wrong.

As for football, one season is indeed a small sample size, but for right now, with the SEC move and the hiring of Kevin Sumlin, like the mid 80s to mid 90s with Jackie Sherrill, A&M can certainly be the most popular U in Texas for aspiring college football players in Texas for a good long while. Yes, Texas can hire whomever they want save Saban within the next few years, and Sumlin could be on their list, but if A&M hangs onto Sumlin for a long while, they'll be considered "premiere" for a long while.
Posted by Old Money
Member since Sep 2012
36640 posts
Posted on 4/3/13 at 1:51 am to
UT = GOAT of Texas.

JFF is even a UT fan

Ya'll still compare yourself to Texas.
This post was edited on 4/3/13 at 1:52 am
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46590 posts
Posted on 4/3/13 at 2:24 am to
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It's so cute seeing Aggy trying to rationalize his existence... it's almost like watching 5 electricians sitting around the union hall talking about how awesome they are while management sits around the table drinking Pappy, smoking top of the line cigars, and laughing about their record breaking bottom line.

But... hey... don't worry, Aggy, if you do really, really good as a petroleum engineer you might get to be a manager working for an SMU or Texas alum at a company like Hunt Oil (owned and run entirely by SMU Cox School of Business alumni... largest privately owned company in the WORLD).




SMU is Baylor with a little more bang for your buck. And you might want to check your facts, the largest oil company in the world is run by an "aggy".
This post was edited on 4/3/13 at 2:27 am
Posted by Txsbigeasy1
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
430 posts
Posted on 4/3/13 at 4:17 am to
I can't believe that you guys got 10 pages out of this!
Posted by parrothead
big salty ham
Member since Mar 2010
4468 posts
Posted on 4/3/13 at 6:53 am to
with a sample size of n<50 we cant really see any real significant meaning statistical data......so maybe in a few (49) years we'll know.
Posted by brickman
mandeville,la.
Member since Apr 2009
294 posts
Posted on 4/3/13 at 7:19 am to
maybe in time.A long time.As big of a win as it was beating bama do not think it will happen too often.As for being as premier as texas pretty low goal.
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
19315 posts
Posted on 4/3/13 at 7:39 am to
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I don't even know what SMU produces


Sorostitutes and overpaid lawyers.
Posted by BennyAndTheInkJets
Middle of a layover
Member since Nov 2010
5610 posts
Posted on 4/3/13 at 8:08 am to
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I just moved to Seattle and my boss is an Aggie. How is that for networking.

Congrats, just out of curiosity what's your profession?
This post was edited on 4/3/13 at 8:10 am
Posted by BennyAndTheInkJets
Middle of a layover
Member since Nov 2010
5610 posts
Posted on 4/3/13 at 8:09 am to
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Sorostitutes and overpaid lawyers

Even though one of my best friends went to SMU, this is pretty damn true.
Posted by cramps
Member since Oct 2012
2119 posts
Posted on 4/3/13 at 8:29 am to
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What is with all this academic bull crap. If academics is so important then drop sports and focus on it.

The academic smack was especially loud while Tech slapped A&M around for a decade. In Texas, you can't talk football with lots of Ags and Horns unless you attended either university, as if it matters. Basically their football IQ is low, and they think they're Ivy League material when they couldn't get into Rice if they tried.
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
8714 posts
Posted on 4/3/13 at 9:26 am to
SMU has a great MBA program and Law school but the undergrad is a completely different thing. US News is also just one rating and it has some bizarre standards. For instance they list A&M's endowment at $358 million when it is $7 Billion, probably discounting PUF money and other funds. That's not a minor discrepancy. Also, private schools have gotten better and better at gaming the ratings. They can release whatever info they want and it can't be verified as they are private and they can have manipulate numbers to make them look better. In general the comparison of private to public schools is too much of an apple to an orange to have any real sense of accuracy.

The rest of this thread is filled with a lot of trolling or ignorance. I especially like the alumni network thing, find any list on the web of best alumni networks and A&M is consistently Top 5 among public schools. It's the combination of the military heritage, ring, excellent academics, and size. Texas is strong in many areas as well but it is more specialized in a few areas. Ironically one of the most powerful networks around are Aggies (esp Aggie engineers) that have Texas Law Degrees, you have to be a complete incompetent not to have a great job making serious cash with that combo.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80869 posts
Posted on 4/3/13 at 9:27 am to
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Ironically one of the most powerful networks around are Aggies (esp Aggie engineers) that have Texas Law Degrees, you have to be a complete incompetent not to have a great job making serious cash with that combo.


I don't think we can overstate the future impact of Sharp getting us a law school...
Posted by BennyAndTheInkJets
Middle of a layover
Member since Nov 2010
5610 posts
Posted on 4/3/13 at 9:32 am to
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I especially like the alumni network thing, find any list on the web of best alumni networks and A&M is consistently Top 5 among public schools. It's the combination of the military heritage, ring, excellent academics, and size. Texas is strong in many areas as well but it is more specialized in a few areas. Ironically one of the most powerful networks around are Aggies (esp Aggie engineers) that have Texas Law Degrees, you have to be a complete incompetent not to have a great job making serious cash with that combo.

This is what I'm trying to get at. If you view a strong alumni network as a situation where an Aggie can find another Aggie at a job and, for all intensive purposes, almost guranteed a great shot at a job then by all means that A&M is probably the best in the nation. I don't view it that way. UT has an extremely broad reaching alumni network that can at least get your resume in the door for more firms than A&M. They will not go to bat for applicants like Aggies will, because that's just not their style. They are more arrogant and don't help out others like Aggies do. I'm more in the camp that I view a strong alumni network as one that I could have a long shot anywhere then it's basically up to me the rest of the way, if I frick up I frick up and I shouldn't get the position. I didn't have any networks or hook-ups getting into college or making my way in my career, I had to rely on one shot at my dream firm with 3 in person interviews, 2 phone interviews, and a 7 hour final interview to get hired. That's where my bias for networks comes from

I'm not talking out of my arse on this if y'all think so, I don't know any of y'all personally but I'd be very surprised if you've dealt with more recruiters for finance and in some level accounting than I have. However if you view a strong alumni network as the way I've described Aggies then fine, that's your view. But the truth is UT can reach an extremely broad range of firms and companies. Like I said, Horns don't go to bat for other Horns like Aggies do for Aggies, but whatever your view on strength of alumni network is then fine, whatever you want to do. I'm done wasting time on this.
This post was edited on 4/3/13 at 9:43 am
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