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re: Which school in the SEC would you send your children?
Posted on 7/5/12 at 9:13 am to Ball Gravy
Posted on 7/5/12 at 9:13 am to Ball Gravy
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Oh, and I know this is SEC, but if my kid wanted to stay in Texas, there's only one school I'd let him go to outside of A&M.... and that is Texas.
I wouldn't support my kids if they wanted to go to Tech, Baylor, SMU or TCU. I'd laugh if they said UH, Texas State, UNT, UTEP or UTSA.
Surprised Rice isn't on your acceptable list.
For business, SMU would be ok with me. Agree with your laugh list.
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Posted on 7/5/12 at 9:15 am to blacknblu
I'm sure you could find at least a couple majors from each school that they are at the top of the SEC/country in. Obviously some of them aren't as viable in terms of a career choice, but it is something to consider.
Frankly, short of maybe Vandy, I really don't think you are going to see that big of a difference in terms of quality of education for many of the mainstream majors. For example, if you were majoring in engineering at, say, South Carolina and you were magically transformed over to a class at Auburn, I really don't think you would suddenly realize "Wow! Auburn's engineering program is much better!"
I got my engineering undergrad at Arky and am currently in grad school at a top 5 engineering program and I really can't tell the difference in terms of curriculum quality, research ability, faculty, or even class size.
In short, I would support my kid if they went to any school in the SEC. I feel that they are all good schools and hard work will pay off in the end no matter what diploma they are carrying.
Frankly, short of maybe Vandy, I really don't think you are going to see that big of a difference in terms of quality of education for many of the mainstream majors. For example, if you were majoring in engineering at, say, South Carolina and you were magically transformed over to a class at Auburn, I really don't think you would suddenly realize "Wow! Auburn's engineering program is much better!"
I got my engineering undergrad at Arky and am currently in grad school at a top 5 engineering program and I really can't tell the difference in terms of curriculum quality, research ability, faculty, or even class size.
In short, I would support my kid if they went to any school in the SEC. I feel that they are all good schools and hard work will pay off in the end no matter what diploma they are carrying.
Posted on 7/5/12 at 9:16 am to blacknblu
Here's another big stat....
"Top Public Colleges for Getting Rich" -- A&M is #9 in the country, #1 in Texas and #1 in the SEC. Texas is #16 in the country. The schools ranked in front of A&M and Texas are mainly California schools (and U of Illinois) and if you adjust their salaries for Cost of Living, we vault up the polls, but that convolutes the argument so I'll just use hard salaries. We rank ahead of UNC, Virginia, Michigan and Texas.
No other SEC schools were top 25.
No. 9: Texas A&M University
Experience
Median Salary
0 to 5 years
$49,700
10 to 20 years
$96,100
Top Earners*
$171,000
*Ten percent of grads with 10 to 20 years experience earn more than this amount.
Source: PayScale.com
"Top Public Colleges for Getting Rich" -- A&M is #9 in the country, #1 in Texas and #1 in the SEC. Texas is #16 in the country. The schools ranked in front of A&M and Texas are mainly California schools (and U of Illinois) and if you adjust their salaries for Cost of Living, we vault up the polls, but that convolutes the argument so I'll just use hard salaries. We rank ahead of UNC, Virginia, Michigan and Texas.
No other SEC schools were top 25.
No. 9: Texas A&M University
Experience
Median Salary
0 to 5 years
$49,700
10 to 20 years
$96,100
Top Earners*
$171,000
*Ten percent of grads with 10 to 20 years experience earn more than this amount.
Source: PayScale.com
Posted on 7/5/12 at 9:17 am to GalvoAg
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GalvoAg
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10. Auburn 11. Kentucky 12. Texas A&M 13. Tennessee 14. Mississippi State
I'm not saying they aren't quality schools. How does your list look?
Posted on 7/5/12 at 9:17 am to dr__dawggy
I would love for my kid to go to Rice. I'm shocked I left it off my list too. 
Posted on 7/5/12 at 9:20 am to Ball Gravy
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Here's another big stat....
"Top Public Colleges for Getting Rich" -- A&M is #9 in the country, #1 in Texas and #1 in the SEC. Texas is #16 in the country. The schools ranked in front of A&M and Texas are mainly California schools (and U of Illinois) and if you adjust their salaries for Cost of Living, we vault up the polls, but that convolutes the argument so I'll just use hard salaries. We rank ahead of UNC, Virginia, Michigan and Texas.
No other SEC schools were top 25.
No. 9: Texas A&M University
Experience
Median Salary
0 to 5 years
$49,700
10 to 20 years
$96,100
Top Earners*
$171,000
*Ten percent of grads with 10 to 20 years experience earn more than this amount.
Source: PayScale.com
Can't this be largely attributed to you having a much higher % of students majoring in engineering? Seeing how the average starting salary of just about every engineering major is over 50k/year, this is obviously going to skew the numbers more.
What I would be more interested in is the started salary of strictly engineering majors and how this compares to engineering majors from other schools. I don't think you are going to see that much of a difference.
Posted on 7/5/12 at 9:20 am to Elleshoe
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Pretty hilarious you're an Auburn student but are an LSU fan fwiw...
Born in Louisiana, but raised in Auburn.
Had full tuition scholarship to both, but chose Auburn because they had the better engineering program and were in the process of putting a lot of money into the program.
Rendering of the Shelby Center (all new engineering buildings). Notice how it dwarfs the Lowder Business building in the top left corner.
The only building that I am unaware of being complete is the bottom left. The main wing and the 2 lower wings are both done now.
This post was edited on 7/5/12 at 9:25 am
Posted on 7/5/12 at 9:24 am to blacknblu
1. Vanderbilt - obvious reasons
2. LSU - very close to home
The rest in no particular order:
MIss. St.
Florida
Texas A&M
Missouri
2. LSU - very close to home
The rest in no particular order:
MIss. St.
Florida
Texas A&M
Missouri
Posted on 7/5/12 at 9:29 am to bpfergu
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What I would be more interested in is the started salary of strictly engineering majors and how this compares to engineering majors from other schools. I don't think you are going to see that much of a difference.
I graduated from Alabama in civil engineering in 2010. I'm making around 48k, but I'm working for the ALDOT. Probably would have gotten more if I went private.
Posted on 7/5/12 at 9:32 am to blacknblu
For just the SEC, #1 would be Vandy obviously, followed by A&M. After I'd say UGA and UF. Then I'd have to go with Rice and Texas ( 
) and start looking at some better OOS schools regardless of conference that hopefully he/she would be smart enough to get into. I will say I'd probably rather my kid go to an OU, LSU or Arkansas over a Tech or Baylor.
) and start looking at some better OOS schools regardless of conference that hopefully he/she would be smart enough to get into. I will say I'd probably rather my kid go to an OU, LSU or Arkansas over a Tech or Baylor. This post was edited on 7/5/12 at 9:33 am
Posted on 7/5/12 at 9:32 am to bpfergu
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Can't this be largely attributed to you having a much higher % of students majoring in engineering? Seeing how the average starting salary of just about every engineering major is over 50k/year, this is obviously going to skew the numbers more.
Myth. Only 13% of students at A&M major in Engineering. That's roughly 5K undergrads. As opposed to 34% that are Business or Interdisciplinary Studies.
I do know our Petrol Eng, Elect Eng, Mech Eng and Aerospace Eng do very very well with Fluor, BP, Exxon, Shell, Lockheed Martin, Bechtel, Boeing and the like.
Posted on 7/5/12 at 9:33 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
Vandy, UGA, UF, or Mizzou.
Posted on 7/5/12 at 9:34 am to blacknblu
Whichever schools they wanted to go to.
Posted on 7/5/12 at 9:37 am to Robot Santa
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Whichever schools they wanted to go to.
Pretty much this, but only if they're boys. My daughters will go to nunnery to make sure all those damn hoodlums keep their hands off...
Posted on 7/5/12 at 9:42 am to Ball Gravy
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Myth. Only 13% of students at A&M major in Engineering. That's roughly 5K undergrads. As opposed to 34% that are Business or Interdisciplinary Studies.
I do know our Petrol Eng, Elect Eng, Mech Eng and Aerospace Eng do very very well with Fluor, BP, Exxon, Shell, Lockheed Martin, Bechtel, Boeing and the like.
You might want to check your numbers. According to:
LINK
Over 20% of undergrads at A&M are in engineering programs.
Comparing this to Arkansas:
LINK
We have 9.1%. A&M has over double the number of engineers. That is pretty significant. I'm too lazy to look up other schools.
Posted on 7/5/12 at 9:51 am to Robot Santa
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Whichever schools they wanted to go to.
At the end of the day, kids are going to do what they want - but as a parent, one has the tendency to guide. For example, regardless of school - I pray my kids do well in math and sciences and do not want to be in the "social work" field when they graduate. There's nothing wrong with the "social work" field, and it's a noble profession - but there is more stability and $$$ in math and science.
To which SEC school(s) would you guide your progeny?
Posted on 7/5/12 at 9:51 am to pvilleguru
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I graduated from Alabama in civil engineering in 2010. I'm making around 48k, but I'm working for the ALDOT. Probably would have gotten more if I went private.
Chemical engineers base salaries usually start around 60-65K, but if you work for an oil company (Chevron, Exxon, Schlumberger, etc.) it's usually closer to 100K after multipliers and annual bonuses, and could be more if factor in total benefits
Posted on 7/5/12 at 9:57 am to DWag215
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Basically anywhere but Arkansas.
I don't really want to support my kids for the entirety of my life.
Fair enough - what schools would be on your list?
Posted on 7/5/12 at 9:57 am to BamaChemE
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Chemical engineers base salaries usually start around 60-65K, but if you work for an oil company (Chevron, Exxon, Schlumberger, etc.) it's usually closer to 100K after multipliers and annual bonuses, and could be more if factor in total benefits
Government jobs pay shite. Even working for defense contractors such as Lockheed you are usually going to be on the lower end of the pay scale. That being said, a lot of the time the benefits can't be beat.
But yeah, going private, especially in the oil field, is the way to go.
Posted on 7/5/12 at 9:58 am to bpfergu
Well then we need to update our USNWR profile. It is severely wrong.
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