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re: Which school in the SEC would you send your children?

Posted on 7/5/12 at 11:01 am to
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 7/5/12 at 11:01 am to
Omg one negative thing about Arkansas and shite shite storm comes. Intelligent people can graduate from anywhere, this isn't about that. This is about setting them up for the best chance of success. Intelligent people fulfil their potential better at A&M than at Arkansas. A&M is just a better education, hands down. You don't have to be bitter about it, it is just the truth. Higher starting salaries, more prestigious degree, and a more extensive network. I'm sorry that makes you butthurt.
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37299 posts
Posted on 7/5/12 at 11:04 am to
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If they are intelligent and want to be successful, Texas A&M or Florida. If they can't, smaller school in Texas and transfer in to A&M. No other SEC school really impresses me academically outside of Vanderbilt, and they would have to be in love with them for me to think they wouldn't get something very comparable in A&M or Florida, but get the experiences and networking from a larger school.


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Crap! I guess you better tell the plethora of intelligent and successful people that graduated from schools other than those two that their entire life up to this point has been a giant facade.


If I'm using both these quotes to determine who's more intelligent- it's not going to be the aggie.
Posted by Miz Piggy
La Petite Roche
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 7/5/12 at 11:05 am to
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your children's opportunities in life and their experiences are WHAT THEY MAKE OF THEM


Absolutely true! I graduated from a Top 15 university, but was rather aimless after graduation. Ended up getting a job that I thought was perfectly acceptable at the time, but realized later was far below my abilities/education level. Moved up quickly, but still a dead end department.

Fortunately, I got out and into a department with unlimited potential. However, seeing recent state school grads come into the company at levels not much below mine really made me conscious of how much I squandered my opportunities.

I found that the U of A grads connections through alumni/professors almost mitigated any advantage I had over going to a highly ranked university. I could speculate that I might have had greater success had I not come back to Arkansas, but who the hell knows.


I know, tl/dr. csb...
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29179 posts
Posted on 7/5/12 at 11:05 am to
Your average Aggie is smarter and more successful than your average Arkansas graduate; yes or no?
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37299 posts
Posted on 7/5/12 at 11:07 am to
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Your average Aggie is smarter and more successful than your average Arkansas graduate; yes or no?


I doubt smarter, no. Perhaps they make more money if they stay in a larger market.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29179 posts
Posted on 7/5/12 at 11:11 am to
You doubt smarter? Does your school value admission metrics? SAT/ACT scores that measure aptitude? Things like that? Where does Arkansas compare to Harvard? Is there anything that Arkansas does that isn't up to par with any other SEC school? Are you essentially Vanderbilt with different colors?
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37299 posts
Posted on 7/5/12 at 11:14 am to
Yes, I doubt smarter.



Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60149 posts
Posted on 7/5/12 at 11:14 am to
Well that settles it
Posted by bpfergu
Member since Jun 2011
3485 posts
Posted on 7/5/12 at 11:15 am to
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Omg one negative thing about Arkansas and shite shite storm comes. Intelligent people can graduate from anywhere, this isn't about that. This is about setting them up for the best chance of success. Intelligent people fulfil their potential better at A&M than at Arkansas. A&M is just a better education, hands down. You don't have to be bitter about it, it is just the truth. Higher starting salaries, more prestigious degree, and a more extensive network. I'm sorry that makes you butthurt.


"shite storm"? You made the asinine statement that if one doesn't go to A&M or Florida then they aren't intelligent or want to be successful. That is absolutely absurd, and I simply corrected you on your obviously biased shortcoming.

I disagree that A&M is a "better" education than Arkansas, or any other SEC school for that matter. Some arbitrary ranking isn't going to change that. I have my undergrad from Arkansas and about 75% of my colleagues have their undergrads from A&M and I can promise you that I am just as well prepared for my career, if not more so, than most of them. An education is what you make it, and you are essentially learning the same curriculum from the same books in the same manner at any of these schools you go to. The only place that one school could potentially stand out from another is in research capabilities, but if you have done any research at all on the matter you would know that every SEC school is well endowed and it is not all that difficult to get financial assistance and grants when doing research.

As I said before, the higher salaries thing is skewed due to A&M having a significantly higher percentage of engineering students. Due some research in regards to specific degrees and how the average starting salary compares between various SEC schools and I think you would quickly realize it is much closer than you seem to think.
Posted by TheNotoriousGOP
Member since Oct 2010
4644 posts
Posted on 7/5/12 at 11:17 am to
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Which SEC School Would You Send Your Kids


Posted by hoginthesw
DFW
Member since Sep 2009
5329 posts
Posted on 7/5/12 at 11:17 am to
I can only speak from my experience and that was with one Aggie grad. I had an intern working on her MBA here, and she was the dumbest shite I have encountered with that degree on her resume. No common sense to speak of. At all.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60149 posts
Posted on 7/5/12 at 11:21 am to
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she


Not surprising

Every school has it's dumbasses, especially the large public school ones that have more students. I've always believed your education is what you make of it, this was a good thread until the last page or so
This post was edited on 7/5/12 at 11:21 am
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29179 posts
Posted on 7/5/12 at 11:21 am to
No. I never said they weren't intelligent if they went there. I said if they were intelligent I would want them to go to A&M over a school like Arkansas. If I had a brainiac kid, his potential would be better reached at Rice than it would A&M. Rice is a better school than A&M. Both are light years ahead of Arkansas.

Sorry. If I had a star football player I would rather him play for Southern Cal than Arkansas State. Sure. He could get drafted out of either school if he was good enough, but USC is a better football team than Arkansas State. The Trojans would help him more. How the frick do you not get that? I'm not saying graduating from Arkansas makes you stupid, but I might change that if you can't figure out basic reading comprehension.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29179 posts
Posted on 7/5/12 at 11:24 am to
Higher salaries isn't just because of engineers. The Big 4 hires Aggies like crazy. I know for a fact that my Sooner friend at EY recruited and signed an Aggie below their gradepoint threshold because it was A&M. You are allowed to do that when you know the education is stronger. He wouldn't get away with that at Arkansas.
Posted by blacknblu
Member since Nov 2011
10276 posts
Posted on 7/5/12 at 11:27 am to
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Assuming the old adage that "the apple doesn't fall far from the tree" is true, most of the kids from posters on here will be lucky to graduate high school.


Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37299 posts
Posted on 7/5/12 at 11:29 am to
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I'm not saying graduating from Arkansas makes you stupid, but I might change that if you can't figure out basic reading comprehension.


You said that aggies are smarter which is just a ridiculous comment. Maybe you meant better educated which I would still argue overall but 'smarter' is just dumb. Hell some very smart people didn't even go to or finish college. I'm pretty sure Bill Gates, etc. could out smart all of us and he never even graduated. Are you out in the real world yet? If not, your argument makes more sense.

This post was edited on 7/5/12 at 11:31 am
Posted by VC
Canton
Member since May 2012
2506 posts
Posted on 7/5/12 at 11:32 am to
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but they might have better opportunities in life


Ya think?

the understatement of the year.
Posted by bpfergu
Member since Jun 2011
3485 posts
Posted on 7/5/12 at 11:33 am to
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No. I never said they weren't intelligent if they went there.


Are you shitting me? That is EXACTLY what you said!

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If they are intelligent and want to be successful, Texas A&M or Florida.


So if your kid decided to go anywhere but A&M or Florida, you would dub him/her as not being intelligent? Absolutely ridiculous.

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If I had a brainiac kid, his potential would be better reached at Rice than it would A&M. Rice is a better school than A&M. Both are light years ahead of Arkansas.


Disagree on all counts. If you have a smart kid that is tenacious, he/she will achieve whatever they want to at any major school they go to.

I know literally dozens of people (myself included) who are doing graduate work at the top universities in the world right and/or very successful in their respected career and who also graduated from SEC schools that aren't called A&M or Florida. So how exactly would going to A&M have benefited me? What "edge" would it have given me?

Your posts wreak of insecurity and I honestly will feel really sorry for your kid(s) if you ever have them, if that is the type of mind frame you are going to emboss in your household.
Posted by Tennessee Jed
Mr. SEC Rant
Member since Nov 2009
17909 posts
Posted on 7/5/12 at 11:34 am to
I'd pay for him or her go wherever they pleased.

Restricting your childrens college choices based on a football team is selfish, shortsighted, ignorant.

And literally does you no good.

Posted by VC
Canton
Member since May 2012
2506 posts
Posted on 7/5/12 at 11:36 am to
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Higher salaries isn't just because of engineers. The Big 4 hires Aggies like crazy. I know for a fact that my Sooner friend at EY recruited and signed an Aggie below their gradepoint threshold because it was A&M. You are allowed to do that when you know the education is stronger. He wouldn't get away with that at Arkansas.



BS.....I worked for 2 of the Big 4. Yes the Dallas and Houston offices sign a lot of A&M kids, as well as Texas and Baylor and LSU. Having worked in the Houston offices, I can tell you that the A&M kids were not thought to be the most intelligent out of the 3 major schools that place accountants in the Houston area. I've known many people that did not have a 3.5 gpa get hired at the big4...you aren't that special.
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