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re: The 25 scholarship limit

Posted on 2/2/12 at 5:55 pm to
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 2/2/12 at 5:55 pm to
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Because Philon had obviously already burned his bridge to come to Auburn. Chizik didn't want him anymore. That's a frick load different from telling a recruit to find another college or grayshirt so late in the process.


Of course. Being spiteful is much better. Hey, we wanted you, but since you didn't want us earlier, eff you. Hope you don't go anywhere.
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 2/2/12 at 5:56 pm to
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It's funny, the ones forced out were mainly noncontributors.


Just like Mike Dyer, huh?
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 2/2/12 at 5:56 pm to
I said mainly.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 2/2/12 at 5:57 pm to
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43% attrition


Btw this statement you keep making is false. Attrition would assume that all those guys actually were on campus
Posted by joeyb147
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 2/2/12 at 5:57 pm to
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Of course. Being spiteful is much better. Hey, we wanted you, but since you didn't want us earlier, eff you. Hope you don't go anywhere.

You don't have a clue about what you're talking about, do you?
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 2/2/12 at 5:57 pm to
Of signees. I can't help that Chiz couldn't even get all his recruits on campus.
Posted by Zed
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 2/2/12 at 5:58 pm to
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So what. Has if affected his ability to produce at his job?
You can only do this stuff for so long before it catches up to you.
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Cry about the NCAA and the University President's creating this situation if you want to cry about it.
The NCAA didn't choose to oversign, Saban did. Blaming the NCAA and the scholarship limit is simply making excuses for Saban.
Posted by Outside looking in
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 2/2/12 at 5:59 pm to
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So he turns his back on them instead of mentors them. Quick to shun and long to forgive. Got it. Unless of course, they're contributors like Eric Smith. Then plead guilty to crimes and miss a Fla Atl game and back on the team. It's funny, the ones forced out were mainly noncontributors.


They aren't dismissed for first offenses unless it is egregious. And by the way, a significant portion of that 43% was players who never showed up to campus due to non-qualifying.


Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90739 posts
Posted on 2/2/12 at 6:00 pm to
I know that there are a multitude of Au fans, and a few emotionally challenged Bama fans that think life is candy canes and sugar pops. They think it's a life ending situation when a student gets a free ride from a University or is asked to wait to get his free ride from the one he wants to go to. Frickin entitlement thinking. Part of the reason this country is in the shape it is in. Everyone is owed something.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 2/2/12 at 6:00 pm to
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Chizik hasn't processed anyone because they needed the roster spot for someone he thought was a better player. Those that have left or been asked to leave have been due to their own actions that didn't coincide with the family atmosphere.


Alahunter knows this. He just likes choking on Auburns nutsack. You would be better to ignore the fool.
Posted by Outside looking in
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 2/2/12 at 6:01 pm to
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So then, a question...Since Bear Bryant preached class and honor, do you think the Bear would have honored the scholly to Philon?


Would still like to hear an opinion, speculation or not.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 2/2/12 at 6:01 pm to
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You can only do this stuff for so long before it catches up to you.


Has it? Or has his hard work been paying off?

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The NCAA didn't choose to oversign, Saban did. Blaming the NCAA and the scholarship limit is simply making excuses for Saban.


Again, had he not had contigency plans, you'd be the one in here griping about not filling the scholarship limits. No excuses. Saban did his job for which he was hired. He recruited the best players he could to be successful at the University. He owes nobody anything else but that.
Posted by jddawg58
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 2/2/12 at 6:01 pm to
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just don't understand Saban's deal. He's a great coach. It's shown since he's been in the college game.

However, he preaches that commits need to be solid and not visit other places. Yet, when he gets a certain commit and the class becomes full later in the year, he'll tell that recruit to grayshirt or find another college so he can get a better recruit


Some might suggest that is hypocritical. If they were allowed to criticize a coach who has led their team to to crystal footballs. Such heresy is not permitted in this state.

This was a stupid thing to do, but it will only likely have small negative consequences since Philon grabbed another vine with the offer from Arky and Taylor caught on with KY. But these situations need not have occurred, and the fact that they did occur can only be laid at the feet of the Ala staff.
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 2/2/12 at 6:02 pm to
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Of signees. I can't help that Chiz couldn't even get all his recruits on campus.


Well frick, you want him to go change the grades for them?

A signee ot making it to campus =/= attrition

Wow, dude... Just wow.

This is an all-time low for you, and that's really saying somthing.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90739 posts
Posted on 2/2/12 at 6:03 pm to
So Chiz not getting in players is not his fault, but his losses are Tubs', because he couldn't get qualified players in. Nice.
Posted by joeyb147
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 2/2/12 at 6:04 pm to
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This is an all-time low for you

No it's not.

It's par for the course. Just ignore it.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90739 posts
Posted on 2/2/12 at 6:04 pm to
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But these situations need not have occurred, and the fact that they did occur can only be laid at the feet of the Ala staff.


And you've yet to address the fact, if he didn't recruit an extra player and one or two had reneged, he'd been left shorthanded in the recruiting class. And there'd been bitching about that. He owes his loyalty to Alabama and bettering it.
Posted by Outside looking in
Member since Apr 2011
549 posts
Posted on 2/2/12 at 6:05 pm to
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So Chiz not getting in players is not his fault, but his losses are Tubs', because he couldn't get qualified players in. Nice.


It's clear you cannot defend saban even to your own kind, so attacking Chizik is your only defense. Quit deflecting and step into the real world.

Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 2/2/12 at 6:06 pm to
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, you'd be the one in here griping about not filling the scholarship limits


So bama has 25 seniors and juniors declaring leaving this year
Posted by jddawg58
Saban Nation
Member since Oct 2011
2157 posts
Posted on 2/2/12 at 6:06 pm to
You are doing a poor job of defending a position that is quite frankly, indefensible.

You are violating the first rule of holes, when you are in one, quit digging.
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