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re: Cam Newton is the best college football player i've seen

Posted on 7/23/11 at 8:21 pm to
Posted by gatorprincess815
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Posted on 7/23/11 at 8:21 pm to
You are so butthurt it's not even funny. When I come at you with stats from those years and links from unbiased sources you don't even take into account.Everyone has different opinions so therefore you think Cam, but my argument stands out based on facts not perception.
Posted by arwicklu
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 7/23/11 at 8:21 pm to
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Cam Newton is the best college football player i've seen
Lolz,Barry Sanders while one of the all time greats didn't run roughshot through sec defenses......




He averaged 240 rushing yards a game. Didnt do it against the SEC is a lame excuse. He didn't play against D2.
Posted by Hook Em Horns
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Posted on 7/23/11 at 8:21 pm to
somebody wants to sit on timmys face.

And the fact of the matter is you are a florida fan, so you are going to say tebow. Auburn is going to say bo/cam. Georgia says hershel, etc. It is all going to depend on who you ask
This post was edited on 7/23/11 at 8:23 pm
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 7/23/11 at 8:22 pm to
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Cam was better than VY.



National Championship: VY 30/40 267 yards passing 19/200 3 touchdowns rushing, 0 turnovers total.

Cam 20/34 265 yards passing 2 touchdowns 1 pick 22/64/0 rushing 1 fumble, 2 turnovers total

Also, VY's was against a USC team that ESPN was proclaiming the best ever in the month leading up to the game.
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 7/23/11 at 8:22 pm to
Our pass defense is what put us in holes. Someone bring up Florida's 07 defense and Auburns defensive rankings.
Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 7/23/11 at 8:23 pm to
Give me tebow. Cam would never survive 4 years as a QB in the SEC. Tebow barely did.
Posted by MagillaGuerilla
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 7/23/11 at 8:23 pm to
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Tebow he was damn good as well,but was surrounded by four and five stars,Cam,not so much.....bottom line....



2007 Florida skill position starters:

WR Andre Caldwell 5*
WR Louis Murphy 3*
WR Percy Harvin 5*
RB Kestahn Moore 3*
TE Cornelius Ingram 4*

2008 Florida skill position starters:

WR Riley Cooper 4*
WR Louis Murphy 3*
WR Percy Harvin 5*
RB Jeff Demps 4*
TE Aaron Hernandez 4*

2009 Florida skill position starters:

WR Riley Cooper 4*
WR Deonte Thompson 4*
WR David Nelson 4*
RB Jeff Demps 4*
TE Aaron Hernandez 4*

2010 Auburn skill position starters:

WR Darvin Adams 3*
WR Emory Blake 4*
WR Kodi Burns 4*
RB Mike Dyer 5*
TE Phil Lutzenkirchen 4*


Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 7/23/11 at 8:23 pm to
What the frick am I butthurt about? That Cam was better than Tebow?
Posted by blzr
MB
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 7/23/11 at 8:23 pm to
So you choose one game to decide who is better? not to mention Cam was hurt for part of the NC game.
Posted by arwicklu
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2008
7627 posts
Posted on 7/23/11 at 8:25 pm to
quote:

National Championship: VY 30/40 267 yards passing 19/200 3 touchdowns rushing, 0 turnovers total.

Cam 20/34 265 yards passing 2 touchdowns 1 pick 22/64/0 rushing 1 fumble, 2 turnovers total


Cam is still amazing but that game against USC on the biggest stage was unreal. And that was a damn good defense he shredded.
Posted by jtclassof2002
Alabama
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 7/23/11 at 8:25 pm to
Tebow and since he had a whole career and Newton only had one season here are stats from the Heisman seasons.

This compares stats during their Heisman season.

Touchdown Totals

Cam Newton in 13 games put up 28 passing TDs, 20 rushing TDs and 1 receiving TD for a total of 49 touchdowns plus his two in the championship game gave him 51 in 14 games.

Tim Tebow in 12 games put up 32 passing TDs, 23 rushing TDs for a total of 55 touchdowns

Total Yards

Cam Newton: 307.5 yards/game
Tim Tebow: 321.6 yards/game

Passing Yards

Cam Newton: 2589 total passing yards or 199.2 yards/game
Tim Tebow: 3286 total passing yards or 252.8 yards/game
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 7/23/11 at 8:25 pm to
I'd put Zachery over Burns, but both were 4 stars so I guess it doesn't matter
Posted by gatorprincess815
Founder of Tim Tebow Fan Club.
Member since Jul 2009
18452 posts
Posted on 7/23/11 at 8:25 pm to
Potential is not apart of this argument. We don't know what Cam would have done with 4 years like Tebow did because he didn't play 4 years, he had 1.

I'll give you an example.....

Tee Martin had a great 1998 season and won the NC, but does that make him better than Peyton Manning?
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 7/23/11 at 8:26 pm to
If you're going to compare Heisman years, make sure you include Cam winning a NC...
Posted by blzr
MB
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Posted on 7/23/11 at 8:26 pm to
Didn't Florida go to the Cap One bowl during Tebows heisman season?
Posted by NOLACOP
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 7/23/11 at 8:27 pm to
I strongly dislike Cam Newton, I think he is a coddled POS who acted like an entitled a**hole at multiple locations. I respect the hell out of Tim Tebow and understand why Gator fans would back their boy all day. That being said, I have never seen anything like last year. I don't want to imagine 3 years of this guy on or off the field. Of course body of work it's sti,l a two horse race to me Tebow and Herschel, with a slight nod to that dirty dawg...he was the damndest thing I've seen.
Posted by gatorprincess815
Founder of Tim Tebow Fan Club.
Member since Jul 2009
18452 posts
Posted on 7/23/11 at 8:27 pm to
you are wasting your time, they don't care about the stats in this argument.
Posted by gatorprincess815
Founder of Tim Tebow Fan Club.
Member since Jul 2009
18452 posts
Posted on 7/23/11 at 8:28 pm to
No That Tebow is better than Cam and I backed up my statements with facts.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90739 posts
Posted on 7/23/11 at 8:29 pm to
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Our pass defense is what put us in holes. Someone bring up Florida's 07 defense and Auburns defensive rankings.


2007 Florida
Pass defense 98th ranked
Rush defense 10th ranked
Total defense 41st ranked
Scoring defense 46th ranked

2010 Auburn
Pass defense 108th ranked
Rush defense 9th ranked
Total defense 60th ranked
Scoring defense 53rd ranked

Alot closer than you think.
Posted by blzr
MB
Member since Mar 2011
30113 posts
Posted on 7/23/11 at 8:29 pm to
He should have put the rushing stats up, that is why Cam is more dominant and most people would pick him over Tebow. I think Cam is a better overall passer but he can run past/over anybody in college.
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