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re: What if: Cam vs Ingram for the Heisman

Posted on 12/6/10 at 9:54 pm to
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
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Posted on 12/6/10 at 9:54 pm to
Ingram might not have even got invited to NY this year.
Posted by PuntBamaPunt
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Posted on 12/6/10 at 9:57 pm to
Wasn't last year the closest vote ever? Figured suh wrapped it up against tejas
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
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Posted on 12/6/10 at 10:00 pm to
Yeah, it was. I do not know how Ingram was even invited to NY last year to be honest. He was not even a top 3 RB in the country. Hell, not even the best in the state of alabama.

We will see where he ends up getting drafted. I do not think it will even be first round, but that will partly depend on how he does in the combines.
Posted by FTBLFN
Nashville, TN
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 12/6/10 at 10:03 pm to
You're a fricking tard.
Posted by DvlsAdvocat
Your Mom's House, AL
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 12/6/10 at 10:03 pm to
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I do not know how Ingram was even invited to NY last year to be honest. He was not even a top 3 RB in the country. Hell, not even the best in the state of alabama.



You are so frickin' stupid...
Posted by NOTORlOUSD
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 12/6/10 at 10:05 pm to
Mark Ingram was honestly one of the weakest Heisman winners in recent history and the vote last year proved it. Cam would win and it wouldn't be close.
Posted by AUTigLN11
Marietta
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 12/6/10 at 10:05 pm to
I'm not trying to be an arse at all but objectively looking at it Ingram is considered one of the weaker Heisman winners in history. Cam is arguably the strongest. Also it's pretty ironic that Ingram's dad is a felon but Cam's dad is reason enough to make you bring this topic up.
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 12/6/10 at 10:05 pm to
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They barely beat the Chris Todd led team
They barely beat a Jonathan Crompton lead team. That doesn't mean the 2006 Vols would kick their arse.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 12/6/10 at 10:05 pm to
Ingram is probably the worst heisman winner in SEC history. He was not even the 3rd best player on his own team. Or the most valuable. Rolo and Julio were better and Cody was more valuable though not better.

Hell, like I said, no way he should have been invited to NY. You put him on an average team, he is not even all SEC. You put him on AU's team last year, he is 2nd string behind Tate.
This post was edited on 12/6/10 at 10:08 pm
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
20835 posts
Posted on 12/6/10 at 10:07 pm to
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I'm not trying to be an arse at all but objectively looking at it Ingram is considered one of the weaker Heisman winners in history. Cam is arguably the strongest. Also it's pretty ironic that Ingram's dad is a felon but Cam's dad is reason enough to make you bring this topic up.



There have been at least 3 worse players to win over the past decade than Mark Ingram.
Posted by AUTigLN11
Marietta
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 12/6/10 at 10:08 pm to
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Last year's SEC Defenses > This year's SEC defenses


That's because they didn't have to face Cam to inflate their numbers. Alabama is actually one of the only team whose defense was better last year anyway. God you guys are so pathetic.
Posted by UltraSwagnus
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 12/6/10 at 10:16 pm to
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It should also be noted that the 2009 Bama team would have undoubtedly beaten the 2010 auburn team.

2009 Alabama almost lost to 2009 Auburn
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
20835 posts
Posted on 12/6/10 at 10:18 pm to
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2009 Alabama almost lost to 2009 Auburn

2010 Auburn almost about 7 games. I'd hate to see them in a year where the other teams are all slightly better.
Posted by AUTigLN11
Marietta
Member since Mar 2010
4833 posts
Posted on 12/6/10 at 10:20 pm to
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I'd hate to see them in a year where the other teams are all slightly better.


Good luck. The SEC West this year was the best division in college football history. Nice try though.
Posted by AUTigLN11
Marietta
Member since Mar 2010
4833 posts
Posted on 12/6/10 at 10:21 pm to
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There have been at least 3 worse players to win over the past decade than Mark Ingram.


Who, based on the season they had when they won it? Obviously guys like Jason White suck but you can't really argue with their numbers or results even if it was system based.
This post was edited on 12/6/10 at 10:22 pm
Posted by AUfan87
The Yellow Brick Road
Member since Nov 2010
583 posts
Posted on 12/6/10 at 10:32 pm to
I'm sorry, but Ingram can't hold Newton's jock strap. Ingram is going to be the first Heisman winner from the year before to not to a single vote the next year.
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
20835 posts
Posted on 12/6/10 at 10:38 pm to
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Good luck. The SEC West this year was the best division in college football history. Nice try though.
Ridiculous.You can't just look at the record of a few teams and determine that.
This post was edited on 12/6/10 at 10:41 pm
Posted by AUfan87
The Yellow Brick Road
Member since Nov 2010
583 posts
Posted on 12/6/10 at 10:39 pm to
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You are so frickin' stupid...


EASY now. Don't have a heart attack.
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
20835 posts
Posted on 12/6/10 at 10:39 pm to
Eric Crouch essentially stole it
Carson Palmer was crap for about half his year, lit up some shite defense, and won because he destroyed Notre Dame
And yes, I was including White. He sucked.
Posted by AUTigLN11
Marietta
Member since Mar 2010
4833 posts
Posted on 12/6/10 at 10:42 pm to
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Ridiculous. The defenses across the board were nothing special.


UGA 10 > UGA 09
Ark 10 > Ark 09
LSU 10 > LSU 09
MSU 10 > MSU 09
AU 10 > AU 09
UT 10 > UT 09
USC 10 > USC 09
Clemson is also pretty good defensively.

Bama and Ole Miss are the only SEC teams that are worse than last year.

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