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re: Which Program Benefits Most From Saban's Retirement?

Posted on 2/2/24 at 9:08 pm to
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
16524 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 9:08 pm to
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No.

You stated that what LSU is about to do now that Saban is gone would be my worst nightmare.

I said that’s fricking stupid - since I sat through the DuBose, Fran, and Shula years.

You stated that LSU is playing better ball now than they were during those eras, which is demonstrably false. During the worst stretch in Bama football history, 2000-2007, LSU finished in the Top 10 five times, won 2 national championships, won 11+ games 3 different times, and won 3 SEC Championships.

To sum up: No, what LSU is about to do is not my worst nightmare. No, LSU is not playing better ball currently than they were during their best stretch in program history.




It's funny to me that you understand LSU football as well or better than their own fans. I do as well.

I live in Louisiana and have conversations about LSU football all the time. I Know their fanbase better than they know themselves. I watch all their games and listen to their sports shows but what they think they know about Alabama football couldn't fill a frickin' thimble. They never watch and don't follow Alabama. So when I tell them how and why Alabama is going to beat them. They're in utter disbelief and godsmacked by the outcome.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
6709 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 9:14 pm to
I think people are not really respecting how much more random championships are apt to be in the expanded playoff era. Having the best roster is going to work out most of the time, just like it does in the regular season. Still, more games means more chances to run into bad matchups on a bad day.

2012 Alabama was probably the best overall team of the Saban era but they had one bad day against a very good but not championship caliber team with an offense that created some mismatch problems. Now that stuff is more likely to happen in the playoffs. Yes, your school's team is probably better 7 out of 10 times against this opponent but they do mismatch you in a few spots and your players are exhausted from the prior week's game.

Also, the normal stuff like more opportunities to catch bad college officiating working against you that week and injuries.

I wouldn't be surprised if Smart ends up matching or pass Saban in titles. I wouldn't be surprised if Georgia only wins 1 or 2 more with Smart.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
56660 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 9:32 pm to
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It's funny to me that you understand LSU football as well or better than their own fans. I do as well.

I live in Louisiana and have conversations about LSU football all the time. I Know their fanbase better than they know themselves. I watch all their games and listen to their sports shows but what they think they know about Alabama football couldn't fill a frickin' thimble. They never watch and don't follow Alabama. So when I tell them how and why Alabama is going to beat them. They're in utter disbelief and godsmacked by the outcome.


No doubt.

Who can forget this amazing take?




Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
43014 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 9:42 pm to
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Kelly just managed to lose 3 games and finish 3rd in his own division with the 2nd best offense in school history.


Defense

It’s been addressed
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
16524 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 9:51 pm to
That was a damn fine troll and you know it.

Good save.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
21198 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 10:05 pm to
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Kirby's Kryptonite was Nick Saban. I can admit it. That's why I say Georgia has the most to gain from Saban's retirement.


This is the correct answer. Kirby was 1-5 against the GOAT. He would have surpassed him eventually with age, but after the retirement Kirby is suddenly alone as the best coach in the business. All the schools that think a weight is lifted because Saban is gone are still just going to get steamrolled by UGA now.
Posted by lake2280
Public intellectual
Member since Nov 2012
4322 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 10:37 pm to
Alabama is the right answer. It was time as the talent is leveling out and it’s more about coaching and that’s where Saban has never been the best and was falling hard.
Posted by cjohn
Georgia
Member since Aug 2014
1157 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 11:28 pm to
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Which Program Benefits Most From Saban's Retirement?

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Imagine Texas A&M with their talent and using their talent properly,

Ouch.


Ouch but troof.

signed
an Aggie.
Posted by artompkins
Orange Beach, Al
Member since May 2010
5808 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 11:51 pm to
Considering what 21-0 did to y’all I’d say probably lsu.
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
26636 posts
Posted on 2/3/24 at 1:35 am to
LSU, easy.

There’s one thing holding LSU back from 5+ titles the last 20 years.

Will LSU take advantage??… only time will tell. But there’s no question LSU benefits most from Saban leaving. Auburn certainly a close second relatively-speaking.
This post was edited on 2/3/24 at 1:37 am
Posted by Opry
Member since Oct 2023
3595 posts
Posted on 2/3/24 at 1:43 am to
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Alabama is the right answer. It was time as the talent is leveling out and it’s more about coaching and that’s where Saban has never been the best and was falling hard.
100% right. The era of his style had past. Saban won by hording NFL talent, not coaching. Without talent, he could have never been as successful.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 2/3/24 at 3:07 am to
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. I watch all their games and listen to their sports shows


What a psycho
Posted by Froman
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
36755 posts
Posted on 2/3/24 at 5:48 am to
It’s got to be LSU, because even when we had a better team than them that mf would still find a way to beat us.
Posted by Fearless and True
N Carolina
Member since Aug 2022
954 posts
Posted on 2/3/24 at 8:15 am to
We don't even know yet if Bama will play LSU every year.
Posted by cyarrr
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2017
3551 posts
Posted on 2/3/24 at 9:01 am to
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Kelly just managed to lose 3 games and finish 3rd in his own division with the 2nd best offense in school history.


Kelly just managed to win 10 games and finish tied for second in his division despite having the worst defense in school history.

Yeah, I’d say he’s probably elated.
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