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re: Do Bama fans really not see the hypocrisy?

Posted on 1/18/24 at 12:11 pm to
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 1/18/24 at 12:11 pm to
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a roster genuinely known for quitting

All it takes is for players to leave before they run out of eligibility.

Congratulations, now Alabama has a roster genuinely known for quitting.
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What Alabama is going through is not comparable to those situations, at all.

Keep telling yourself that, son. And RTR!
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But your rationale in doing so seems dumb as hell.

That's only your lack of self-awareness.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 1/18/24 at 12:12 pm to
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I really do hope we see attrition in the early enrolles as well
What?

Why?
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83743 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 12:15 pm to
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All it takes is for players to leave before they run out of eligibility. Congratulations, now Alabama has a roster genuinely known for quitting.
Stop it. LSU had/has a culture of quitting. LF7 invented it and other took is as far as sitting out full seasons.
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Keep telling yourself that, son. And RTR!
It is different.
Posted by HighTide_ATL
Member since Aug 2020
1906 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 12:15 pm to
Which is a testament to DeBoar's coaching ability. Most of their best players are leaving for the NFL, and there's maybe 4-5 that an upper-tier SEC team could use on their starting depth chart
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
53396 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 12:16 pm to
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Stop it. LSU had/has a culture of quitting. LF7 invented it and other took is as far as sitting out full seasons.


You're delusional.

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Players not gelling with the new coach and leaving in bulk has always happened.


Exactly what's happening at Bama.
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
14927 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 12:21 pm to
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The rest of CFB can link arms and destroy any top ~15 program while they have no ability to fill open spots.





If you can't convince the players already on the team to stay, why do you think similar caliber players on other teams would be flocking to Bama right now?

It's supply and demand and demand for Bama is way down. Bama is free to fill open spots with whoever of the 1500 players already in the portal they can convince to put on that crimson jersey, mayne.
This post was edited on 1/18/24 at 3:14 pm
Posted by cyogi
Member since Feb 2009
5141 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 12:23 pm to

"I want to play for (University)! The rich tradition!" ... it's all smoke and mirrors, hiding the $$$$. Players were getting paid for decades, now comes NIL and the portal. Even SMU back in the day became a strong team until they were given the death sentence.
This post was edited on 1/18/24 at 12:24 pm
Posted by stang14
Member since Nov 2019
1014 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 12:25 pm to
What you Georgia fans should be doing is calling your state representatives to put pressure on your RINO governor to remove your Fulton county DA who is using your tax money to overpay a lawyer to prosecute Trump and using your tax dollars for love encounters with a married man.
Posted by lastfan
Houston
Member since Nov 2015
7732 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 12:27 pm to
Okay, I’ll tell you I’m a hypocrite when it comes to you. I usually hate your posts because it seems like all you do is troll. But I discovered my hypocrisy just now when I read your post — I laughed and actually enjoyed it because most of the Bama posters on this site are insufferable.
Posted by cyogi
Member since Feb 2009
5141 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 12:27 pm to
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You really want a coaching change, during good times, to be a death penalty for every top program?

Everybody laughed at LSU when O was fired and we were down to less than 40 players. Everyone loved it then. What's the difference now? Oh yeah! It's YOUR team getting picked and torn apart.
This post was edited on 1/18/24 at 12:31 pm
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
2262 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 12:40 pm to
I thought it was cringe taking those players. How many NCs were won with them?
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83743 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 12:57 pm to
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Exactly what's happening at Bama.
No it isn’t. They don’t even know the guy yet.

What’s happening is “hey what are you paid, we can pay you a bit more right now” while Alabama is in frantic transition mode.

If we HAVE to open a portal 30 days when a coaching change is made, is it not a good idea to give the new staff some time before it opens? Or at least something in that vein?

Kids are going to be kids. I don’t blame a single one for leaving. But dangling a Lambo in front of a kid a day after a coaching change shouldn’t be a legitimate way to recruit.

Something has to be done about what defense a program has against this auction shite. Not asking for any players to be held hostage. But the rules could be massaged to give programs SOME defense, even if that’s just a tiny bit of time.


Also, if you or anyone has a chance, could y’all describe to me what happened at LSU after Orgeron’s departure and how it affected the roster and what the rules were then? I’m genuinely interested in how it worked then, how it works now, and where things might be headed.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83743 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 1:00 pm to
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Everybody laughed at LSU when O was fired and we were down to less than 40 players
People laughed, at a goofy arse wildly animated character who cussed opponents on their field, took selfies in bed with women( ), and absolutely ruined LSU’s roster by being a moron.

Do you not see the difference here?

And were the rules the same then? Did LSU get locked out of the portal while the rest of the country got to auction off their players?
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83743 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 1:02 pm to
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What's the difference now? Oh yeah! It's YOUR team getting picked and torn apart.
Did LSU not tear their OWN program apart? That’s what was funny. Terrible leadership fricked LSU.

You have to see the difference.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
53396 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 1:12 pm to
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Did LSU not tear their OWN program apart? That’s what was funny. Terrible leadership fricked LSU.

You have to see the difference.


Bad timing for Saban's decision

You hired a coaching staff that your players have no history with

One could argue that Alabama tore their own program apart as well.
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
Pensacola, Florida
Member since Dec 2013
15826 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 1:15 pm to
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We haven't lost any recruits that just signed?


You were saying
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
Pensacola, Florida
Member since Dec 2013
15826 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 1:24 pm to
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We haven't lost any recruits that just signed?



YET



Wow that was fast
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
16624 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 1:24 pm to
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There’s literally a thread on the Bama board right now talking about how Downs & Proctor leaving is a sign of the death of CFB and how they are just guns for hire.


Are they not just guns for hire though? That's probably 99% of big time college football players today.

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And the funniest thing about all this is that the exodus was started because of a brand new coaching staff. In my opinion, that’s probably the most legitimate reason to transfer.


It really is the best time to transfer, and they should be allowed to freely transfer if the coach who recruited them leaves. It seems extremely punitive to the school whose coach left though to have the portal only open one way for players to leave for those 30 days.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 1:26 pm to
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Stop it. LSU had/has a culture of quitting. LF7 invented it

Just because that’s the narrative Bama fans invented to raz LSU fans doesn’t make it true. Fournette struggled with an injury that season (high ankle sprain?) and only played in 7 games. The Citrus Bowl wasn’t the only game he missed that year.

You just can’t seem to get past the bias of your perceptions. It’s a lack of self awareness.
Posted by Dwight Schrute Reb
2022 CWS National Champs
Member since Jul 2020
821 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 1:28 pm to
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Do Bama fans really not see the hypocrisy?
All over Twitter, the Bama board, etc., they are whining about how the sport is ruined and how “nobody has loyalty anymore”

Not to mention they are angry at Kirby, Sark, etc for “stealing” their players.

I know they’re not the brightest bunch, but I’m actually shocked by the lack of self awareness.

For the last few years, transfers have been a massive piece of Bama’s rosters

Gibbs
Henry T
Burton
Jameson Williams
Trez
Ricks

I didn’t see any Bama fans crying about disloyalty when they picked up those guys in the portal

I’m still trying to decide if they are really stupid, or just in denial. It’s probably both

It ain’t no fun when the rabbit’s got the gun I guess


The cold haard reality is that anytime a coach leaves any school now, the players will bolt for the money. Until there is some type of reform for NIL, this is the new norm and it will eventually happen to all of us.
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