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SEC Award takeaways

Posted on 3/6/18 at 11:26 am
Posted by TigerProwl24
Gulf Coast
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 3/6/18 at 11:26 am
-Couldn't be happier for AK McLemore making the SEC All-Defensive Team.
-Disappointed for Bruce not winning Coach of the year. Him and Barnes should've been Co-COY.
-Harper and Brown both made 2nd team All-SEC. Although everyone on the first team is worthy, to not have a single AU player on the first team is terrible.
-You can bet we're going to be a very motivated bunch in the tournament
Posted by Rig
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Posted on 3/6/18 at 11:27 am to
We got no respect
Posted by AA7
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 3/6/18 at 11:32 am to
The best three point shooter in the conference not being 1st team is ridiculous. Mustapha not making a list is dumb too.

ETA: No clue how Knox is 1st team either.
This post was edited on 3/6/18 at 11:34 am
Posted by Rig
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Posted on 3/6/18 at 11:35 am to
Coaches don't pay attention to what actually goes on around their league. They vote off their perceptions
Posted by AUtigerNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since Apr 2011
17107 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 11:40 am to
Yup. Win SEC and have best overall record and still no respect. Pearl had two starters out to begin the year. There’s no way Barnes had to endure what AU had to in order to achieve what they did.
Posted by AU66
Northport Al
Member since Sep 2006
3264 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 11:50 am to
This isnt an oversight this is punishment , we coulda had Mike Jordan And he was not gonna be first team this year.
This post was edited on 3/6/18 at 11:53 am
Posted by TigerProwl24
Gulf Coast
Member since May 2015
3975 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 12:05 pm to
AP just released theirs..

Brown made 1st team, Heron and Harper made 2nd team.

Still no love for Bruce.
Posted by JamalSanders
On a boat
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 3/6/18 at 12:38 pm to
quote:

Although everyone on the first team is worthy, to not have a single AU player on the first team is terrible.


Kevin Knox is not worthy of first team.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
49014 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 12:42 pm to
Y'all say what you want but this is one of the reasons I say frick the rest of the conference.

I don't want any other team having any success in the tourney or NCAA.

It's just a joke at this point.
Posted by jsmoove
Member since Oct 2010
12627 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 12:43 pm to
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Kevin Knox is not worthy of first team.



It wasn't an award for best brick maker?
Posted by jsmoove
Member since Oct 2010
12627 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 12:48 pm to
quote:

I don't want any other team having any success in the tourney or NCAA.

It's just a joke at this point.


I might pull for Mizzou but that's probably it. The amount of hostility Auburn got after McLemore went down (not just the board) is sickening.
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
28907 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 12:50 pm to
quote:

This isnt an oversight this is punishment , we coulda had Mike Jordan And he was not gonna be first team this year.


Looks like auburn has rustled some serious jimmies. frick them, let's keep rolling.
Posted by TigerPaw1
Chattanooga, TN
Member since Apr 2011
16979 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 12:53 pm to
quote:

Y'all say what you want but this is one of the reasons I say frick the rest of the conference.

I don't want any other team having any success in the tourney or NCAA.

It's just a joke at this point.


I've been this way since 2010. Would please me to no end for AU to make it to 2nd weekend in tourney but none of the rest of the SEC

Obviously always wanted to win the SEC tourney but wasn't that concerned. Now I hope we beat the hell outta everybody & Pearl brings up the voting bs right before cutting down the nets
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
28907 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 1:00 pm to
quote:

Obviously always wanted to win the SEC tourney but wasn't that concerned. Now I hope we beat the hell outta everybody & Pearl brings up the voting bs right before cutting down the nets

I've never pulled for other SEC teams. But all this does is give Bruce more fuel. He's great at coaching and motivating our guys with a chip on their shoulders.
Posted by ellitor
Member since Sep 2012
14285 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 2:13 pm to
What makes this so much worse is we not only won the league despite all the adversity we faced. We dominated the SEC w/ all 13 conference wins by 8 or better, 10 of those by double digits. Average margin of victory was 13.6. Vols was 11. Vols only had 4 double digit SEC wins. Even with factoring in AU's 5 losses our average margin in all SEC games is still better than UT's average win margin. 11.5 to 11. Factoring in UT's losses it's 11.5 to 4.8. There is no way a team dominates a league like that & not have 2 of the best 8 players in a league. Staph not being on 2nd team & Chuma not on the All SEC Freshman team were laughable jokes as well. If we were barely beating teams then those votes could be somewhat justified. Reality is we tapped that SEC arse like we owned it so the voting was petty, pathetic, & completely inexcusable.
Posted by Rig
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Posted on 3/6/18 at 2:24 pm to
Tell em E
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 3/6/18 at 2:45 pm to
quote:

Coaches don't pay attention to what actually goes on around their league. They vote off their perceptions



I think it is a joke, but I'd just want to point out the truth in the above comment.

Heron/Harper had some glaring red flags when playing quite a few coaches. It would be easy to see them dropped on those coaches' ballots

Heron

- Shot >50% FG against only 5 Teams/Coaches
- Shot <30% FG against 3 Teams/Coaches
- Shot 30-46% against 5 Teams/Coaches
- 5 Coaches never saw Mustapha hit a 3FG

Harper

- Shot <30% 3FG against 8 Coaches
- Shot >50% 3FG against 1 Coach

- Shot >50% 2FG against 2 Coaches (50% 2FG against 5)
- Shot <30% 2FG against 3 Coaches

Bryce Brown

-Can't do a between the legs dribble

quote:

Chuma not on the All SEC Freshman team were laughable jokes as well.


This I don't have as much a problem with. All the guys named started for their teams and had higher aggregate production statistically

You don't see many role players named to FR All SEC teams when there are a number of guys who were difference making starters
This post was edited on 3/6/18 at 2:49 pm
Posted by wareagle2007
Member since Aug 2009
386 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 3:03 pm to
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This post was edited on 3/6/18 at 3:07 pm
Posted by ellitor
Member since Sep 2012
14285 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 3:19 pm to
quote:

Harper

- Shot <30% 3FG against 8 Coaches
- Shot >50% 3FG against 1 Coach

- Shot >50% 2FG against 2 Coaches (50% 2FG against 5)
- Shot <30% 2FG against 3 Coaches

Very limited view on Harper. When you factor in his impact as a distributing PG in terms of Assists, TO ratio, & scoring Chioza is the only PG that could remotely have an argument over Jared. With 8 players on the 1st team there's no excuse for Jared not on it.

quote:

All the guys named started for their teams and had higher aggregate production statistically
3 didn't per a tweet from Justin Ferguson.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 6:33 pm to

quote:

3 didn't per a tweet from Justin Ferguson.


Then Justin Ferguson is wrong. 7/8 All SEC FR started >50% of SEC games. The lone exception is Jontay Porter who started in 33% but avg 25.6 mpg in SEC play.

Okeke also has a lower scoring average than everyone on the team + lower rebounds/game relative to the two post men included


His exclusion is pretty fair. He is probably a better player than most on that list, he just wasn't needed like those other guys

quote:

Very limited view on Harper.


I wasn't saying I agree with the view, just putting into context what some coaches experienced.

quote:

Chioza is the only PG that could remotely have an argument over Jared.


... and Chiozza was the only true PG chosen 1st team

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