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re: Practice Notes 10-6-15

Posted on 10/7/15 at 8:56 am to
Posted by bawbarn
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Posted on 10/7/15 at 8:56 am to
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all positions open to competition


This is bullshite. There are players busting their arse that doesn't deserve their spot taken away. Just because the team is struggling and Gus doesn't look like the genius everyone made him out to be, he is making all positions open? Bush league move, in my opinion.
Posted by joeyb147
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Posted on 10/7/15 at 9:12 am to
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This is bullshite. There are players busting their arse that doesn't deserve their spot taken away. Just because the team is struggling and Gus doesn't look like the genius everyone made him out to be, he is making all positions open? Bush league move, in my opinion.
So second string guys aren't busting their arse too?

Or should starters stay starters no matter how they perform?

Can I get your opinion on Kris Frost starting at MLB since McKinzy has moved to buck?

Should Lambert start at DE or should we give Cowart a look?

Did JJ deserve to keep his starting spot after his performance the first three games?

Do you think Duke deserved to start after seeing him half-arse it in every game?

Roc was the starter opening weekend. Do you think he deserved to see his role diminish because of Barber?
This post was edited on 10/7/15 at 9:25 am
Posted by LurkingEmbraer
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Posted on 10/7/15 at 9:19 am to
This is how I imagine our practices look.

Posted by wartiger2004
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Posted on 10/7/15 at 9:20 am to
This fan base much like this team needs a giant kick in the arse.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
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Posted on 10/7/15 at 9:25 am to
Bingo.

Nobody should ever have complete security in their starting position. Yes, guys with years of starting experience may have a little longer leash out there, but if you aren't performing up to par, someone else needs to be allowed to see if they can perform better under the lights.
Posted by bawbarn
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 10/7/15 at 10:00 am to
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So second string guys aren't busting their arse too?

Or should starters stay starters no matter how they perform?

Can I get your opinion on Kris Frost starting at MLB since McKinzy has moved to buck?

Should Lambert start at DE or should we give Cowart a look?

Did JJ deserve to keep his starting spot after his performance the first three games?

Do you think Duke deserved to start after seeing him half-arse it in every game?

Roc was the starter opening weekend. Do you think he deserved to see his role diminish because of Barber?


1.) They are. They can keep competing, but the first string guys who have played well shouldn't have to "win back" their starting job just because the team is failing to produce

2. Not what I said. If you struggle, of course your job is in jeopardy. Are you saying if you are playing solid football, your starting position is open and up for grabs every single week?

3.) I have called for Kris Frost to be benched since last year

4.) Lambert hasn't played well enough to be locked into a starting role.

5.) No.

6.) No.

7.) Yes.

Do you think Countess should have his starting role up for grabs this week? How about Young, Colman, Golston, and B. Smith? How about Barber and M. Adams? Do you think just because the team is struggling in certain areas of the game, that the position they earned by playing well in spring and fall, and the position they've kept up until now because they've been playing pretty solid football should now be up for grabs because some of the other players on the teams are playing awful football. Should it be up for grabs because the coaching staff is struggling a bit?

What it shows me is, the coaching staff can't tell a starter from a second team player after 4 games into the season, which is concerning, OR it is giving the coaching staff an opening to name Jeremy Johnson the starter against Kentucky. Either way, it's bullshite.
Posted by bawbarn
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 10/7/15 at 10:02 am to
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Bingo.

Nobody should ever have complete security in their starting position. Yes, guys with years of starting experience may have a little longer leash out there, but if you aren't performing up to par, someone else needs to be allowed to see if they can perform better under the lights.


I NEVER said guys who aren't playing up to par shouldn't have their starting status questioned. I said it's bullshite that guys who have been playing well all season are having to win their jobs back. It's a bullshite play by the coaching staff to announce it to the media.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 10/7/15 at 10:11 am to
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Do you think Countess should have his starting role up for grabs this week?


Isn't this what we are doing with White despite him looking much better than JJ? FWIW I agree with you. A player's starting role shouldn't be up for grabs every week if they are playing well and being productive.
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 10/7/15 at 10:13 am to
They said "All starting roles are up for grabs"

What they meant was "If seniors don't quit in practice we will play them and not the best players we have"


Real talk: They said every position so they don't have to single out QB/WR/DE/LB
Posted by bawbarn
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 10/7/15 at 10:15 am to
Exactly. I do not understand why the coaching staff will not name White the starter. He has played better than JJ in both games despite the fact that the coaching staff won't let him thrown downfield. I don't get it.
Posted by joeyb147
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 10/7/15 at 10:22 am to
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Real talk: They said every position so they don't have to single out QB/WR/DE/LB
Don't you get it?

Much better to single out players according to bawbarn who thinks Monty or Countess' job is in the air because of that blanket statement.

Or just relay more coach speak which every Auburn fan on here loves.
This post was edited on 10/7/15 at 10:23 am
Posted by bawbarn
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 10/7/15 at 10:43 am to
Saying every position is open IS coach speak!!

Fans on here will praise Will Muschamp for his bluntness when doing an interview and curse Malzahn when he is vague with his answers. But with the blanket statement that every single position is up for grabs, joeyb loves it.


Posted by Weagle25
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 10/7/15 at 10:49 am to
If you name specific positions that are up for grabs then you are throwing the guys that have been playing those positions under the bus.

That's a good way to get guys to play for you.
Posted by joeyb147
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 10/7/15 at 10:57 am to
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Saying every position is open IS coach speak!!
If it's coach speak then... why are you so pissed?

None of your arguments hold any water if it's just coach speak.


Let's be honest here. You would find something to bitch about no matter what Malzahn said.
This post was edited on 10/7/15 at 10:59 am
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 10/7/15 at 10:59 am to
So apparently Mr. Cubelic was just on the radio saying he doesn't agree with opening up all spots for competition (I barely caught the end of it).

Gus is in a damned if you do or don't type of situation here it looks like. If the team sucks arse, people bitch to give younger guys a look. When he does that people bitch saying "he should know his starters by game 6."
Posted by bawbarn
Member since Jul 2012
3695 posts
Posted on 10/7/15 at 11:00 am to
Yep. So is telling the media every player's job is up for grabs, even though some are playing well enough to keep it.


So which is it? You tell the media every position is up for grabs, but secretly tell the team that certain player's are fighting for their starting position? According to you, that player will probably stop playing hard for you.

Or

You tell the media that certain positions are up for grabs, which is throwing them under the bus and they still quit playing.


Seems like this fan base is talking out both sides of it's mouth. They don't want to coddle players or hurt feelings, yet they think the players are pussies and are babied by the coaches. The fans don't like coach speak during interviews, but they also don't want the coach to be specific or negative because it might hurt someone's feelings, which would make the players stop playing for you.

What a cluster frick.

Posted by bawbarn
Member since Jul 2012
3695 posts
Posted on 10/7/15 at 11:10 am to
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If it's coach speak then... why are you so pissed?


If it is coach speak, why aren't you pissed about it? Your post above insinuates you're tired of coach speak from Malzahn.


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None of your arguments hold any water if it's just coach speak.


How does my argument not hold water? In my first post I said I think it's bullshite that Malzahn told the media that every single position is now open. That I think it's ridiculous for him to say in an interview that players who have been playing well enough to keep their starting spot now have to earn their starting jobs back this week in practice.
Posted by joeyb147
Member since Jun 2009
16019 posts
Posted on 10/7/15 at 11:13 am to
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Your post above insinuates you're tired of coach speak from Malzahn.
I never gave my opinion on it. Need to reread what was written.
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That I think it's ridiculous for him to say in an interview that players who have been playing well enough to keep their starting spot now have to earn their starting jobs back this week in practice.
But if it's coach speak... then they don't have to earn their starting jobs back... because they didn't lose them...
Posted by bawbarn
Member since Jul 2012
3695 posts
Posted on 10/7/15 at 11:27 am to
I'm sorry, I'm not doing the back and forth with you. I never gave my opinion on a lot of the BS you put into my mouth.

Here is my stance. I don't think Malzahn should open up all positions. I think it's a cop-out for him. If it is just coach speak, and he is telling the media that all positions are open, I think that is bullshite. If it isn't coach speak, and all positions are truly up for grabs, that is also bullshite.

It all comes down to Malzahn is basically telling the Media/Fans OR the players that no one has played well enough to keep their starting spot. Even though there have been many deserve to keep their starting spots.
Posted by joeyb147
Member since Jun 2009
16019 posts
Posted on 10/7/15 at 11:47 am to
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I'm sorry, I'm not doing the back and forth with you.
K
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I never gave my opinion on a lot of the BS you put into my mouth.
So you didn't write this?

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There are players busting their arse that doesn't deserve their spot taken away. Just because the team is struggling and Gus doesn't look like the genius everyone made him out to be, he is making all positions open?
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Do you think just because the team is struggling in certain areas of the game, that the position they earned by playing well in spring and fall, and the position they've kept up until now because they've been playing pretty solid football should now be up for grabs because some of the other players on the teams are playing awful football. Should it be up for grabs because the coaching staff is struggling a bit?
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Do you think Countess should have his starting role up for grabs this week? How about Young, Colman, Golston, and B. Smith? How about Barber and M. Adams?
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What it shows me is, the coaching staff can't tell a starter from a second team player after 4 games into the season
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I said it's bullshite that guys who have been playing well all season are having to win their jobs back.


Interdasting....

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If it is just coach speak,

If it isn't coach speak
You already said it was coach speak... now you aren't sure if it is.

See, you wrote it right here
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Saying every position is open IS coach speak!!
Make up your mind ffs.

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I think that is bullshite.

that is also bullshite.
And like I said earlier, no matter what was said, you'd find a problem with it.
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