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Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:14 am
Posted by SamGinn Cam
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:14 am
If you like to revel in team criticism, here's StatTiger going ham (taken from 247) even though a lot of this has been stated at one time or another on this board in various threads. Disclaimer: We know stats can be manipulated to fit many arguments.

If you are Posi or are tired of hearing the same shite, this is not for you.
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StatTiger 363
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At the end of this season, Gus needs to be told he has several options:

1) Bring in a new offensive coordinator with experience not affiliated with your coaching tree. It can be spread oriented if you like to expand on what you have already installed in the past. It is time for you to be a head coach and not an offensive coach.

2) If not, your employment will be terminated with five losses or more and fired with four losses if two of the games are against Georgia and Alabama. Going 0-8 against our two biggest rivals is not acceptable. Having witnessed first hand what occurred under Coach Gene Chizik, this should not come as a surprise.

3) We want you to decide Coach Malzahn what you truly believe is in the best interest of the program. If you are obstinate enough to stick with Rhett Lashlee or another OC that will only run your offense, then you will live and die by it during the 2017 season. The ceiling on this offense has been reached under the mutual guidance of you and Coach Lashlee. It is in the best interest for both of you to part ways.

Previous Mulligans:

We gave you a pass in 2014 because of the defense. You made a change at defensive coordinator, which proved to be a good move.

We gave you a pass in 2015 because of Jeremy Johnson, though there must be an issue with quarterback evaluation or development. The fear is it could be a combination of both.

You get a pass this season because of the late season injuries. Issues with the quarterback position surfaced again. We give you full credit with the way a healthy Sean White performed this season, but John Franklin III attempting only two passes during nearly 80 mop-up snaps proved to be a colossal lapse in judgment.

Even if you win your bowl game, your last three seasons will equate to a 24-15 record over the past three seasons. Auburn expects more than a win percentage of 61.5%. It is important you remember; Gene Chizik was fired for winning only 63.5 percent of his games.

You must make changes at offensive coordinator because...

1) It is wretched you run the ball 77% of the time on 1st down. Unless you are operating a triple-option offense, there is no reason for not attempting passes on 1st down 30-35% of the time. We understand you want to be a run-first offense and we support this basic concept. We only hope you comprehend you can still be a power running offense and pass the ball more often on first down.

2) It is ridiculous you have attempted only one pass to a TE during the last 25 games. Any offensive coach worth his salt attempts to utilize all of his skill players in their game plan. Forcing the defense to cover every aspect makes you less predictable.

3) It is distressing many of your passing plays are one man routes set up in the hopes a certain defensive back will react in the same manner from a previous play.

4) It is criminal you don't call better protection for your QB's facing third and long against blitzing defenses. This label was placed on you in 2009, and yet you have failed to recognize the issue. If you are going to place your quarterback in obvious passing situations as frequently as we have witnessed, at least give the young man a chance to throw the football.

5) Your pass-offense lacks slants, crossing routes, swing passes, and RB screens. What we have seen are WR-screens, outs, square-in, deep posts and wheel routes. Yes, there have been other routes, but you rarely attack the middle of the field vacated by LB's set on defending the run.

6) In six of seven seasons, your pass offense has attempted more passes on third down than first down. Once again, this is a strong indicator of how predictable your offense is to defend.

7) For a QB at this level to not have the ability to check out of certain situations shows how barbaric your offense can be.

8) You are now 4-11 against Power-5 teams, when your running game is held to 150-yards or less, scoring an average of 18 points. We believe in the running game too, but you have to know you cannot always rush for 250-yards week in and week out. Your running game has been tremendous but not unstoppable.

9) You are now 5-14 against Power-5 teams, when you are held to under 10 points by halftime, averaging just 15 PPG, when it happens. This clearly shows the lack of ability to adjust your game plan.

10) As a head coach, you are now 5-11 in games against Power-5 teams, when trailing at halftime and 0-6 when trailing by 10 or more points at halftime. Once again, this is an indicator of your failures to adjust.

11) During the 21 games your offense was held to just 6 points or less during the first period against Power-5 competition, your teams averaged only 22 PPG, winning only 9 of the 21 games.

12) While other offensive coaches change up their play-calling, schemes, and formations to regulate their offense during trying times, you only change out who is taking snaps at the QB position. For the record, this is not an "adjustment," it is called desperation.

13) We want to see an offense ready for action on opening day. Utilizing the first 3-4 games of the season to figure out what you have seems such a waste. Looking back at the Clemson and Texas A&M games, this team could have been undefeated before the injuries began to add up. Spring and Fall camps are when coaches should learn and discover their strengths and weaknesses leading up to the season.
Posted by SamGinn Cam
Okinawa
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:14 am to
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We want you to succeed at Auburn because it means "WE" are successful. This is one of the reasons why you are one of the highest paid head coaches in the country. We believed in you enough to hire you on two separate occasions, as an offensive coordinator and now as a head coach. We gave you a substantial raise when you put a championship team on the field and have continued paying you well even when you struggled. You made a change at the defensive coordinator position when the job was not being done. It is time to recognize the job is not being completed on the offensive side of the football.

What you have accomplished since arriving at the collegiate level has been remarkable. You have blazed a trail for many high school coaches to break into the collegiate ranks. You implemented a new brand of offense that many copied because it was so successful. Your offense at Auburn has nearly rewritten the entire record book. For these accomplishments, we commend you. Long term success in coaching means the ability to adjust, adapt and change. What might have worked five years ago is no longer vogue, and has now become stagnant and anticipated. When the defense failed in 2014, you had the foresight to make a change. It was a sign of growth on your part as a head coach, and we are now reaping the rewards. Can you not see a change is needed on offense?

The time has come for you to be accountable at Auburn and for you to return to the University in the manner, it gave to you. If this is too much to ask and you elect to resign, please let us know, and we will write a check for half your buyout. Your job is to place your players in the best position to be successful, and you have failed the last two years. We have wanted this to be your driving ambition since your hiring, and now we demand it to be the theme moving forward. We expect you to be the head coach at Auburn and to demand the best from your assistants. The Auburn fan base has supported you, and we had hoped you would recognize and overcome your shortcomings. Change for anyone can be a complicated process, especially when it comes to the ego of a head coach at a major program. Next year will be your fifth season on the Plains as head coach, and we only request you do what is in the best interest of a very proud program.

We believe you can be a better head coach and we want you to succeed at Auburn. Recruiting has improved under your watch and it appears you have the defense pointed in the right direction, something Gene Chizik could not do despite being an accomplished defensive coordinator. Off the field distractions have been minimal and most importantly, your players have fought hard for you and your staff. The only glaring weakness right now looks to be the offense and the need to evolve. Changing and adjusting your offense will make for a better team and in the end, will make you a better head coach. Good or bad, everything that occurs under your watch, reflects the kind of head coach you are. We believe in you Gus, we just believe you can do more for the sake of the program.

Good luck moving forward and War Eagle!
Posted by DuncanIdaho
Ouray, CO
Member since Feb 2013
14970 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:17 am to
I like all of that
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
Member since Feb 2010
91648 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:18 am to
Gus Malzahn doesn't necessarily have to change his offense, just parts of it. Keep the rushing attack. It's great. Go out and add someone to advance the passing scheme, though. It's awful. And, of course, get someone that can develop a quarterback and scout talent at quarterback.
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
18151 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:19 am to
We needed this year, get the new President in (May/June) go through this football season and then see what happens. ETA: From 247 Ron Sanders (Agree with this also).
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I'll expand more on this over the next few days, but I'd like to make a few points tonight.

When Nick Saban was hired and LSU - and later at Alabama - he immediately demanded and received upgraded facilities and resources and complete control of the football program at each place. In other words, anyone who touches a football player, Saban can hire and fire.

Gus Malzahn was encouraged by many surrounding him to get a new football facility, stadium upgrades, etc. etc. after the 2013 season when he had all of the leverage he needed after leading one of the biggest turnarounds in college football history.

He ignored that advice.

I have pointed out several times in this space about the need to upgrade football facilities at Auburn. Most would consider the 80's one the most successful decades in Auburn football history. During that period of time, everyone was on the same page. Pat Dye had Saban-like control. And he had the full backing of the only power broker that mattered. He wanted a football facility. It was built. He wanted an expanded and upgraded Jordan-Hare Stadium. He got it. And in 1989, it paid off in playing Alabama in Auburn for the first time ever.

Auburn won four SEC titles between 1983 and 1989, including three straight.

Alabama was lost, in the wilderness.

Almost a decade later, after expanding Bryant-Denny in 1998, Alabama moved major conference games to their campus. In the ensuing years, Alabama decreased the number of games scheduled in Birmingham. The last home game for Alabama at Legion Field was against USF in 2003.

The Tide hired Nick Saban in 2007.

Now, the script has been flipped. Saban has done at Alabama what Dye did at Auburn 30 years ago. There’s no leadership at Auburn. None. Look around. The Tigers are in the same football facility and the stadium is in need of major upgrades just to be on par with others in the conference.

Alabama and Texas A&M have two of the top three facilities and country. Take a look at LSU.

Kentucky just opened a new facility. Mizzou has a huge new facility planned.

Auburn? Nothing.

Does Jordan-Hare compare to Bryant-Denny? It’s not on the same level in any way. What about the football facility? Not close.

A former Auburn assistant coach warned me a few years ago what was about to happen. He was right.

This post was edited on 11/28/16 at 9:36 am
Posted by vandelay industries
CSRA
Member since May 2012
2477 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:19 am to
Barring one or two slight over-exaggerations, that piece needs to find its way to Gus as-is.
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22370 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:37 am to
Great football coaches have honest conversations with themselves about what needs to be addressed in order for his program to take that next step.

The offense needs new blood... I'm just not convinced GM will do anything about it.
This post was edited on 11/28/16 at 9:38 am
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Member since Oct 2010
105413 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:44 am to
Nothing negative about an accurate point of view.

I walk with stattiger
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
34885 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:46 am to
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Alabama and Texas A&M have two of the top three facilities and country. Take a look at LSU.

Kentucky just opened a new facility. Mizzou has a huge new facility planned.

Auburn? Nothing.


I agree with a lot of those sentiments, but not this one per say. Within the past what 6 years or so we completely renovated the practice facilities and added the wellness kitchen? I agree that facilities need more work, but let's not act like we've done nothing.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42568 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:48 am to
I am ready to move on from Gus. AU is a big job from a fan support, and cash in flows perspective. We need someone who understands this. Just coaching offensive won't cut it.
Posted by TigerPaw1
Chattanooga, TN
Member since Apr 2011
16979 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:50 am to
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1) It is wretched you run the ball 77% of the time on 1st down. Unless you are operating a triple-option offense, there is no reason for not attempting passes on 1st down 30-35% of the time. We understand you want to be a run-first offense and we support this basic concept. We only hope you comprehend you can still be a power running offense and pass the ball more often on first down.

2) It is ridiculous you have attempted only one pass to a TE during the last 25 games. Any offensive coach worth his salt attempts to utilize all of his skill players in their game plan. Forcing the defense to cover every aspect makes you less predictable.

3) It is distressing many of your passing plays are one man routes set up in the hopes a certain defensive back will react in the same manner from a previous play.

4) It is criminal you don't call better protection for your QB's facing third and long against blitzing defenses. This label was placed on you in 2009, and yet you have failed to recognize the issue. If you are going to place your quarterback in obvious passing situations as frequently as we have witnessed, at least give the young man a chance to throw the football.

5) Your pass-offense lacks slants, crossing routes, swing passes, and RB screens. What we have seen are WR-screens, outs, square-in, deep posts and wheel routes. Yes, there have been other routes, but you rarely attack the middle of the field vacated by LB's set on defending the run.


Correct these 5 points and I think all would be fine

What I find most frustrating is I don't think the changes needed are huge. He has worked hard to fix the defense & done that. He has shown he can run the ball with about anybody. He has improved in his handling of head cases off the field. He has kept the team engaged and bought in despite struggles. It all comes down to his very poor passing game. From QB recruitment, to QB development, to WR personnel and to the passing scheme itself. If he could fix that one piece we would be a consistent threat to Bama year in, year out. It's why I am not ready to fire him but at same time why I understand many do because it's so frustrating to be close to being an elite program
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42568 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:52 am to
Would Lane Kiffin be an option? His resume is fantastic.
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22370 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:56 am to
I have no problem with Gus if he doesn't want to meddle in facilities upgrades... The same people bitching (Ron sanders) about this would be bitching if he was on a soap box screaming for new construction.

He needs to fix this offense and its QB position. Do that, and we're in pretty good shape. Don't, and he's getting fired sooner rather than later.

The rest is just bullshite noise IMO.
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
28899 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:02 am to
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you have attempted only one pass to a TE during the last 25 games
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
Member since Feb 2010
91648 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:02 am to
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quote:

you have attempted only one pass to a TE during the last 25 games

And it went for a touchdown...
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
17297 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:11 am to
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Most would consider the 80's one the most successful decades in Auburn football history. During that period of time, everyone was on the same page. Pat Dye had Saban-like control. And he had the full backing of the only power broker that mattered.
How'd that end up working out for us? I forget.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42568 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:17 am to
Another point. Gus has one year. Everyone knows it. How do we recruit a new OC, and QB? Going to be really hard. I don't think he makes it past next season regardless. 8-9 wins won't cut it, and that is what we are looking at, max. If we could get someone, it would be in our best interest to make a move now.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105413 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:22 am to
He is the HC now and has responsibility for a lot of things. Whether we like it or not facilities are a major recruiting tool. However, I agree he needs to improve on field issues immediately.

However, Gus will have to learn to multitask and engage in other issues. If that is too much for him to do then he should consider a smaller program or find an OC gig.
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38015 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:55 am to
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Pat Dye had Saban-like control. And he had the full backing of the only power broker that mattered.


How'd that end up working out for us? I forget.


It saved us from becoming a Vandy-level program and made us the best SEC program of the 1980's.

Prior to Coach Dye, the program lacked any type of a foundation. The Auburn football program under a sick Coach Jordan and Coach Barfield was spiraling into disaster.

After Coach Dye, the foundation was set so that every subsequent head coach either went undefeated or played for championships.
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22370 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:56 am to
He has a lot of responsibilities... pushing the PTBs for stadium/football ops construction upgrades shouldn't be one of them.
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