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re: Gus gets extension to 2020
Posted on 6/7/16 at 6:50 pm to Weagle25
Posted on 6/7/16 at 6:50 pm to Weagle25
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You're overestimating the impact of this extension.
And you may be overestimating the negative impact. From what little I know about the contract, it's negative if we fire him this year or next. It's positive if we keep him in year three and negative if we fire him in year four. If he's good, the contract will be rewritten prior to years three or four anyway.
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 7:33 pm to borotiger
If he tanks, it's negative. We forced ourselves to pay more money.
If he's average and we don't fire him, it's neutral.
If he does great, it was pointless. He'll ask for a bigger contract anyways.
So there's no positives to doing it but there are possible negatives to doing it. That's what you call a bad decision.
If he's average and we don't fire him, it's neutral.
If he does great, it was pointless. He'll ask for a bigger contract anyways.
So there's no positives to doing it but there are possible negatives to doing it. That's what you call a bad decision.
Posted on 6/7/16 at 7:38 pm to borotiger
(Not meant as a reply to anyone in particular)
I find the whining from people who have never donated a dollar beyond buying a ticket, hilarious!
Beyond being funny, why do they even give a damn? Folks get bent out of shape about the dumbest stuff.
I find the whining from people who have never donated a dollar beyond buying a ticket, hilarious!
Beyond being funny, why do they even give a damn? Folks get bent out of shape about the dumbest stuff.
Posted on 6/7/16 at 7:47 pm to Weagle25
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So there's no positives to doing it but there are possible negatives to doing it. That's what you call a bad decision
While intangible, there are positives to the contract. The extension negates negative recruiting caused by the perception that Gus is on the hot seat. You chose to ignore that on purpose for some reason.
Posted on 6/7/16 at 9:53 pm to borotiger
Because it doesn't really negate negative recruiting that much if at all.
Posted on 6/9/16 at 9:35 am to Weagle25
Classic Jay Jacobs here. That man's stupidity knows no bounds.
Posted on 6/9/16 at 10:11 am to CaptainBrannigan
Baylor must have scared the money out of the AD. Gus is the best they are going to have a shot at this time of year.
But it's most likely just a recruiting ploy. If he sucks this year he will be gone no matter what they signed.
But it's most likely just a recruiting ploy. If he sucks this year he will be gone no matter what they signed.
This post was edited on 6/9/16 at 10:14 am
Posted on 6/9/16 at 12:10 pm to Weagle25
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Because it doesn't really negate negative recruiting that much if at all.
Is there anyway to quantify this? You seem convinced. Though the same nature of assumption is why these types of contracts are written. Why is one wrong and the other right?
Posted on 6/9/16 at 1:37 pm to Rabern57
quote:swing and a miss
Baylor must have scared the money out of the AD. Gus is the best they are going to have a shot at this time of year.
it was signed april 1st... probably around the same time when the new assistant coaches signed their contracts
This post was edited on 6/9/16 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 6/9/16 at 6:16 pm to Tigerman97
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Is there anyway to quantify this?
No it's an opinion. Can't quantify opinions. Can you quantify that it does negate negative recruiting? No.
Everybody has seen right through the extension. There's not one person I know that actually thinks Gus is safer due to his extension. These kids might be drama filled but they aren't stupid.
This post was edited on 6/9/16 at 6:19 pm
Posted on 6/9/16 at 8:52 pm to Weagle25
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These kids might be drama filled but they aren't stupid.
Stupid isn't the right way to describe it, but they are certainly extremely impressionable. There are way to many people who believe these types of moves are important for it to be for no reason. This isn't something only Auburn does.
Posted on 6/9/16 at 9:10 pm to Weagle25
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No it's an opinion.
It is not an opinion. It can be my opinion that it is true, or alternatively your opinion that it is false.
Whether or not it affects recruiting is not an opinion however. We just don't know the answer
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No it's an opinion. Can't quantify opinions.
You actually could do a regression on recruiting results of coaches on "hot seats" and have contract extension be a variable
Likely be a pretty large error term given the likely lack of data samples. Can't imagine that many ADs are Jay jacobs quality of giving extensions to hot seat coaches
This post was edited on 6/9/16 at 9:12 pm
Posted on 6/9/16 at 11:06 pm to Tigerman97
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but they are certainly extremely impressionable.
And you don't think every team is telling them how meaningless the one year extension is?
Posted on 6/10/16 at 8:06 am to Weagle25
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And you don't think every team is telling them how meaningless the one year extension is?
Honestly, I do. I also have personal experience with the recruitment process and feel confident to say that kids make kid like decisions based on what grown men tell them. For every Carl Lawson there are 100 Reuben Foster types. That's why its my opinion that it absolutely matters when weighed against the losses of a poor recruiting cycle.
Right, wrong or otherwise...it is CRG and CKB, etc...responsibility to befriend these boys and convince them using the tools at their disposal that nothing is wrong with Auburn or Gus. The extension is more for that than Gus himself. Other teams will be saying it doesn't mean much and then it becomes a game of "who do you trust?" If a coach like CRG can't say we have a 4 year contract he can't spin it as a positive in his relationship with a player. Just my thoughts.
This post was edited on 6/10/16 at 10:48 am
Posted on 6/10/16 at 9:49 am to Weagle25
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And you don't think every team is telling them how meaningless the one year extension is?
No. They are probably too busy laughing at the thought of us hiring Kevin Steele to say anything else negative.
Posted on 6/10/16 at 2:17 pm to Weagle25
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And you don't think every team is telling them how meaningless the one year extension is?
Ya.... I'm not an 18yo kid and I think this extension suggest Jacobs doesn't view malzahn on the hotseat/wants him to work out if he is even average.
What you are suggesting is that Auburn powers that be don't care about $2mil. That is some high level university politics to explain to an 18yo kid
This post was edited on 6/10/16 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 6/10/16 at 2:43 pm to GenesChin
quote:Chandler Wooten's mom seems to like it
Sandra Wooten
I like! Future Auburn Mom is happy!#WarEaglequote:
michaelniziolek
No Boom! tweet to go along with this one, but Auburn coach Gus Malzahn gets one year added to deal
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