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re: Can we all agree that Sean is our only option at qb?

Posted on 9/5/16 at 8:29 pm to
Posted by AUlove23
birmingham AL
Member since Aug 2012
481 posts
Posted on 9/5/16 at 8:29 pm to
I hope that if we start the switching of qbs after they start having success we boo Gus off the field. That's not fair to the players to
Have to deal with that crap. I don't ever support booing like that but something has to give and message has to be sent.
Posted by PatDyesPants
Loachapoka, AL
Member since Jan 2016
3403 posts
Posted on 9/5/16 at 8:35 pm to
I wonder if Gus even cares if the fans boo him. He has a comfy contract buyout courtesy of Jay Jacobs.
Posted by Bow to Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
1830 posts
Posted on 9/5/16 at 11:55 pm to
That contract extension looks really bad in this moment
Posted by stevo1905
Member since Nov 2010
2082 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 12:20 am to
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They all three had packages.
It's disturbing to think of the HC building a gameplan around this fantastical notion. This is not a PlayStation game. How could he possibly feel that the resulting drawbacks from heavily splitting reps(continuity, rhythm, focused adjustments, etc.) in preparation would be worth it?

Even if he prepared the team that way, when he saw that something was working, why disrupt a successful drive? Was it out of principle? Has the priority somehow become unclear? I just don't understand. I don't know what to say. Just.. Super fricking sad to hear that.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
19040 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 12:49 am to
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Even if he prepared the team that way, when he saw that something was working, why disrupt a successful drive?


It's because he is splitting the limited number of practice reps up to point where he cant progress any of the qb's or their offensive package past a certain point. He can't call an intermediate passing game for White because reps that could go towards developing White's game are being wasted in practice trying to make JJ the intermediate passing guy. Therefore when AU wants to throw some quick passes, JJ is out on the field throwing bubble screens. He wastes even more reps by trying to make Franklin the read option threat when he should be devoting time developing a running game and play action passes with White under center. What he is actually doing is making his offense easier to defend because defenses know what's coming based on who's lined up at qb. If it's White, you're looking for deep passes, JJ and you're looking for short passes and bubble screens. If it's Franklin, you're selling out to stop the run.
This post was edited on 9/6/16 at 12:51 am
Posted by AUEagle225
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2010
2581 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 1:56 am to
I think you're pretty spot on, Blizzard.

I cannot stand that damn play where we fake the dive, fake the end around, then try to look down the field. The only time it is ever called is when SW is in the game. That shite worked 3 years ago when no one expected it. Now it just looks dumb, takes too much time, and always results in a sack.

Have we ever even handed the ball off to the wr doing the fake? I sure as hell cannot remember us handing it off.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 2:18 am to
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That shite worked 3 years ago when no one expected it


It worked when Nick Marshall could throw it 50+ yards with a Flickr of the wrist allowing Coates time to beat the safety deep


No one has fallen for the fake since 2010
This post was edited on 9/6/16 at 2:19 am
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61635 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 6:32 am to
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ave we ever even handed the ball off to the wr doing the fake?


Well then it would not be a fake would it?



Just saying


Posted by TigerPaw1
Chattanooga, TN
Member since Apr 2011
16979 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 6:47 am to
I'm not completely sold on White. He got put in a ton of crappy situations for sure but he missed 2 sure TDs, one in the redzone on an actual great playcall by Gus to Cox & the other the bomb to Kyle Davis. That 4th down INT would have been an impressive throw for a TD but again that shows he isn't that level of a player. It feels like we are always coming up with excuses to cover White's deficiencies. Injuries, drops & playcalls. At some point he has to make some plays & haven't seen him do that really outside of the Kentucky game last season

Now he is definitely a better option that JJ. The question is if we ran a read option offense with Franklin that also threw quick passes & the occasional deep bomb would that be more successful? We averaged something like 5-6 yards a carry on run plays Franklin was in on despite him never actually carrying it himself. His speed threat held at least one sometimes 2 defenders on those read plays.

He won't but Gus needs to come out Saturday against Arkansas State & give the pair of them 2 drives apiece. No subs, just series all to themselves. After that pick one & let them play till the 4th quarter working on the offense we will need the rest of the season, then let JJ run the clock out in the 4th.

I still think that a 2 QB rotation of White & Franklin could be successful but not sure if Gus is capable of executing it so at this point so I want him to just pick one of those 2 & build from there
Posted by TigerPaw1
Chattanooga, TN
Member since Apr 2011
16979 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 6:49 am to
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No one has fallen for the fake since 2010


Pretty sure that Clemson safety bit hard on it & left Kyle Davis wide open. White then threw a wounded duck that got there but didn't hit him in stride so he couldn't score a TD

Now I have no idea why we ran that fake with 40 seconds to go on that final drive
Posted by AA7
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2009
26694 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 7:24 am to
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The question is if we ran a read option offense with Franklin that also threw quick passes & the occasional deep bomb would that be more successful?

If Franklin is able to at least occasionally complete those passes he would be the best option.
Posted by WarDamn101
Member since Sep 2012
465 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 7:31 am to
The problem with all of this is Gus admits the QB's practiced certain plays. How can any QB get into any rhythm or develop any chemistry if you practice like this? It's obvious Sean is pretty good at intermediate passes, but how can he develop a skill set if he isn't receiving proper reps.

I can agree with JF3 needed to come in some as a change of pace in the Red Zone, but right now it looks like he is scared to keep the ball on fear of making a mistake. We need to develop some type of passing game so we can set up the run game. Gus's refusal or inability to do this is baffling.

The prob with JJ is he can't go through reads fast enough, he doesn't step up in the pocket, and he runs scared. He just doesn't have it and I don't why Gus is to stubborn to see that.

This post was edited on 9/6/16 at 8:16 am
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61635 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 8:49 am to
The funny thing about what Gus did on Saturday is, if you have a twisted sense of humor, the more people roast him on the web, news reports, phone calls to PF, tweets, etc, the more he will stick with it

Gus has a major chip on his shoulder. He is a egomaniac. This is the reason I believe he still goes with Jeremy, and the reason I said he would start Jeremy this year, is to "prove" that he is the man and can do the impossible. The guy does not take criticism well and will not back down

If you are looking for Gus to "learn" something from what happened Saturday night, you had better make a run to the nearest package store and start to stock up. He wont. You are going to see more of what you saw on Saturday. You had better count on it.

No way he makes major changes. No way in hell

So join me and embrace the tardness. Cause it is coming

I have enough for everyone




Posted by freemanjiro
Izunokuni City, Shizuoka, Japan
Member since Nov 2013
1394 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 8:53 am to
Sean White is a RS Soph. in his second year. If he were a 3 or 4 year starter as a jr. or sr. (like JJ), then sure. He sucks

So here we go. If Gus continues to go with JJ with ANY other plan than a two yard dive for TD or first down, then CGM needs to be gone. JJ = AMPLE opportunities across multiple seasons. While we were hopeful, we were reminded again why JJ should not by QB'ing AU. And yes, it sucks.

So, it is SW or JF111. RS Soph against an incoming xfer. If doesn't figure out how to develop talent, esp. QB, and it has become cliche, but that is the root problem, then...then frick him, or frick us, or frick 2 JJ's. My two cents from Japan. War Eagle and wise up CGM!
Posted by weagle12
Newnan, GA
Member since Jul 2016
154 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 8:57 am to
Sadly, everything you said is true. i cant disagree with any of it.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61635 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 9:02 am to
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Sadly, everything you said is true. i cant disagree with any of it.




Even if we win by 30, the meltdown this weekend is going to be something I will actually enjoy. Gus is going to play all the QB's, run the wildcat and even let Jeremy try to run power.


Gus has zero fricks to give. And errybody will be mad


Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
28898 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 9:07 am to
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No passer on the team, so why not give JF a chance with a run dominated O. He is the only threat to keep them honest.

Agree. Gus is too scared to let a QB throw so put the QB in with 4.2 speed and be the SEC version of GA Tech.
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
17288 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 9:17 am to
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No way he makes major changes. No way in hell

So join me and embrace the tardness. Cause it is coming
And THIS, ladies and gentlemen, is Auburn Football.

All Tard, All The Time.

Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105404 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 9:18 am to
No, I can't agree Sean is the only option at QB.

I can agree that what Gus did with the rotation was absolutely insane, embarrassing, and full of failure.

I can agree Sean should have been given the opportunity to play uninterrupted to prove himself.

I expect more of the same moving forward.

I would rather have Barrett in finding his way than that shite show Saturday. What pisses me off is that Gus and Lashlee don't even have the sense to recognize and admit, that they aren't QB coaches.

Still not overly excited over the OL in particularly the tackles. Dampeer is average at best.

Oh goody, at least we get to say we didn't get blown out. Whoopity doo. I hate Dabo and we could have won.

One last thing. Two jump balls to finish the game? Really?

Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
19040 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 9:19 am to
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Gus has a major chip on his shoulder. He is a egomaniac. This is the reason I believe he still goes with Jeremy, and the reason I said he would start Jeremy this year, is to "prove" that he is the man and can do the impossible. The guy does not take criticism well and will not back down


I agree with all of this. Just look at last year. How long did it take and how loud did the criticism get before Gus was forced to sit JJ. Even then when White started his first game, Gus handcuffed him and slowly started working JJ back into the games. Gus isn't going to change what we were doing last Saturday. He's gonna be a stubborn dumbass and continue to play a half dozen qb's. At some point someone has to get in his face and tell him he has to stop with all of these gimmicks and bring some continuity to the team, because he is quickly becoming a detriment to the program.
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