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re: Can we all agree that Sean is our only option at qb?

Posted on 9/5/16 at 11:01 am to
Posted by Prometheus
Member since May 2012
6199 posts
Posted on 9/5/16 at 11:01 am to
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Sean had as many TDs and INTs as JJ. Why do you guys want him to play?


I don't know either. He looks bad himself. His looked so awkward in his passing and zero threat to run.

No passer on the team, so why not give JF a chance with a run dominated O. He is the only threat to keep them honest.
Posted by Jyrdis
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Member since Aug 2015
12791 posts
Posted on 9/5/16 at 11:10 am to
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Start White. Rotate jf3 in to boost the run game


Charlie Strong made this type of system work last night with Buechele and Swoopes.
Posted by ATLtiger12
Atlanta
Member since Dec 2013
675 posts
Posted on 9/5/16 at 11:10 am to
For me it's not about the stats, it's about the intangibles. JJ throws a pretty ball, and looks the part. But every time he gets pressure on him he freaks out. He can't step up in the pocket, sense the pressure, or extend the play and make a throw with a defender about to hit him. It is a guaranteed sack or rushed throw into coverage. He also runs with no confidence and consistently less yards than whatever is blocked for him.

Sean White on the other hand looks more confident when at QB. He does a good job with his internal clock, stepping up in the pocket, and scrambling for positive yards with nothing is there. When there is pressure or the play is breaking down, I still believe Sean White can make something of it.

It's not perfect, but give me a confident QB with all the intangibles any day of the week. That's just my opinion, but I hope to never see JJ on the field again. I think it's pretty clear JJ is a head case and that's the last thing I want in my QB.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42560 posts
Posted on 9/5/16 at 11:25 am to
SW is the worst red zone QB I have seen at AU. Worse than JJ.
Posted by TailbackU
ATL
Member since Oct 2005
11089 posts
Posted on 9/5/16 at 11:49 am to
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SW is the worst red zone QB I have seen at AU. Worse than JJ.


Posted by golfntiger32
Ohio
Member since Oct 2013
12486 posts
Posted on 9/5/16 at 11:56 am to
To me the problem is not with White, he has the ability to be a good QB, however Gus will not change his scheme at all to fit what Sean can do best. We have no short to intermediate pass game. We either run the ball or try to throw it 15-20yds downfield. This is why we suck in redzone.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42560 posts
Posted on 9/5/16 at 12:06 pm to
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To me the problem is not with White, he has the ability to be a good QB


Other than just typing this, why? This seems to be a popular opinion on this board, but SW's number's and game play don't agree. Gus called some great plays in the RS, and SW failed to execute. He missed a wide open WR once in the end zone, and threw a pick the other time. He was only productive when CU went to a prevent D. JJ and JF both moved the O better than SW.
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 9/5/16 at 12:17 pm to
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To me the problem is not with White, he has the ability to be a good QB, however Gus will not change his scheme at all to fit what Sean can do best. We have no short to intermediate pass game. We either run the ball or try to throw it 15-20yds downfield. This is why we suck in redzone.



This is an opinion based on no information.

SW moves the ball between the 20's because at 6'0 it is easier to see the field than when you get in the red zone. Short QB's need one of two things to be effective in the red zone. They need to be quick and fast or they need a big WR to bail them out on fade routes. We don't have that WR.

SW also causes an issue for our Oline (they are average). He is zero threat to hurt you running the ball and he can't throw it deep to stretch the back end.

All this talk about changing the O to fit his skill set is insane. He may be our best option but there is no changing things to make up for his weaknesses matched with what our team lacks.
This post was edited on 9/5/16 at 12:19 pm
Posted by JamalSanders
On a boat
Member since Jul 2015
12135 posts
Posted on 9/5/16 at 2:18 pm to
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I have seen enough of SW to know he isn't better than JJ.




You are so far off base. SW in addition to being a better passer, is also a better runner than JJ.
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22455 posts
Posted on 9/5/16 at 2:20 pm to
Focusing on White is probably the best of bad options right now.

Hopefully the defense keeps us in games and we have a downhill runner step up.

I do think JF3 might be good option in the red zone.
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
21644 posts
Posted on 9/5/16 at 2:42 pm to
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Sean had as many TDs and INTs as JJ. Why do you guys want him to play?



Because of this fact


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Johnson went 4-for-6 for 38 yards while throwing an interception. He had a quarterback rating of 0.7, which few knew was possible. He also ran for minus-18 yards.
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
51820 posts
Posted on 9/5/16 at 5:51 pm to
I need JJ to kindly frick off. Nice guy, but he is an abortion of a college football player. I'm to the point, and I feel bad for thinking this, but I need him to get a season ending injury just to get him off my fricking tv.
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
Member since Feb 2010
91645 posts
Posted on 9/5/16 at 5:59 pm to
It says it all when our staff thinks they have to rotate all 3 quarterbacks, and others, at the quarterback position. They all suck at doing what they're asked, and Gus Malzahn refuses to change his offense to suit the style of quarterback present.

Our offense should look like Clemson's or Houston's, not like this.
Posted by DyeHardDylan
Member since Nov 2011
7730 posts
Posted on 9/5/16 at 6:10 pm to
I'm sure we'll be seeing a lot of Sean..along with all the other QBs as we continue to play musical chairs.
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
51820 posts
Posted on 9/5/16 at 6:13 pm to
It needs to be 1) Sean White. 2) JFIII. 40) JJ

I hope I never see JJ take another snap...he is completely useless.
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
Member since Feb 2010
91645 posts
Posted on 9/5/16 at 6:15 pm to
I love how Jeremy Johnson went into the game for a quarterback power draw on 4th down, and fricking tiptoed into the hole to get stonewalled. I lost it in the stands.

Gus Malzahn is acting like he's Cam Newton or Tim Tebow, and the guy is soft like Charmin toilet paper.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
19040 posts
Posted on 9/5/16 at 6:45 pm to
Here is our problem in a nutshell.

quote:

“We went into this thing knowing we were going to play all three,” Malzahn said. “They all three had packages. That was our plan. And that’s what we went with. At times, it worked well. At times, we struggled.”


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Certain quarterbacks are better at certain plays,” Malzahn said. “You want to call certain plays, and we’ve been practicing like that for a while. Our guys knew what to expect. So that was the


We need one guy getting the majority of the reps in practice with the starting unit. Design plays and an offense to his strengths and make it work. We are running 3 different and very basic offenses instead of one solid developed and cohesive offense. It shows up in our online play as well. Those guys are being asked to adjust and readjust to a new offense on a play by play basis. You can't play football this way and you certainly can't be successful at the highest levels this way. The 2009 offense was successful because Todd was the guy. In 2010 13 and 14, Cam and Nick were the guys. Every where he has been, when he has had a defined starter, he has been successful. His worst years have come trying to play qb by committee.
Posted by AA7
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2009
26694 posts
Posted on 9/5/16 at 6:52 pm to
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Certain quarterbacks are better at certain plays

Our QB's are freaking power rangers and Gus is trying to form the megazord
Posted by AUtigerNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since Apr 2011
17107 posts
Posted on 9/5/16 at 7:47 pm to
If Gus rotates QBs again next week I will hope that me or someone from the stands jumps on the field, runs to Gus and kicks him in the nuts and spits on his frickin glasses. Then take the frickin visor and piss on it. Hopefully I would get a chance to say frick you before I'm hauled off.
Posted by PatDyesPants
Loachapoka, AL
Member since Jan 2016
3403 posts
Posted on 9/5/16 at 8:08 pm to
Do you know what would cheer you up friend?

A direct snap fullback Twirleybird.
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