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re: Auburn ranked 13th in pre-season Coaches Poll

Posted on 8/4/17 at 2:51 pm to
Posted by DoreonthePlains
Auburn, AL
Member since Nov 2013
7436 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 2:51 pm to
I give up. No more posting. It's doubling everything. I didn't even hit submit twice.
This post was edited on 8/4/17 at 2:54 pm
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61586 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 3:09 pm to
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I give up. No more posting. It's doubling everything.


You can say that again..


Posted by ATLtiger12
Atlanta
Member since Dec 2013
675 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 4:10 pm to
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Last years team was a 9-3 team that found a way to become 8-4.


I completely agree with this. We were a good team last year, with some faults, that got hit with the injury bug at the end of the year.

You can't just say that our stats were awful against the best defenses we played last year, because our qb and rb were injured in the two biggest ones of the year. Who knows what would have happened if the team was healthy against UGA and Bama.

Also stats have to take a hit against good teams, hence why they are considered good. You can definitely fault the coaching staff for starting the year slow on offense- that is my biggest gripe with Gus outside of shoddy play calling at times- but we beat down a number of SEC teams last year when healthy, which is what a good team does.

Also, that Ole Miss offense was great last year. How many points did they put on Bama's D? You get credit for going on the road against that offense and winning by double digits.

Sure it didn't end the way we would have liked, but hard to get too upset when you lose your two key pieces on offense down the stretch. Hopefully, we build on it this year.
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
17277 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 4:51 pm to
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Vandy was driving at the end of the game to tie us. Vandy.

UGA - biggest cluster frick ever

Bama - defense saved us the first half but faltered in the second. Didn't even have a first down till the 3rd quarter. Never had a chance
That's what happens when you attempt to play in the SEC without a single Division 1 caliber QB on the roster. And I consider a healthy Sean White to be a pretty good QB, but at 60% or worse he's not a viable option.

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Oklahoma? Absolutely man handles and beat the shite out of us. It was embarrassing.
We looked damn good in that game through the 1st quarter, until OUs third possession when we stopped them on 3rd and forever but Lawson got called offside, then they converted a 3rd and 22 on their way to their first points. Then Whites arm snapped in two, and we were back to not having a QB again,
Posted by TigerPaw1
Chattanooga, TN
Member since Apr 2011
16979 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 5:17 pm to
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There is nothing sugar coated with that analysis...

I didn't say it was, in fact I said it was the complete opposite type of coat

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Tell me where I was wrong?

It wasn't a "very bad" year. You don't play in the Sugar Bowl after a very bad year. You aren't in contention for the SEC West in November in a very bad year. Was it disappointing in the end? No doubt. There was some really bad moments last season which you happily touched on. But there was also a lot of good and I think it's laughable to write off every one our wins last season. We obliterated Arkansas, beat LSU in a hard fought defensive struggle, beat OM on the road (held their offense to less points than Alabama, FSU or UGA), took Vandy's best shot (starting QB is hurt, star RB pulls hamstring going in for TD to ice it and it still took a ridiculous blocked kick and a fluke 4th down conversion for them to even have that last drive) and went on the road & destroyed Mississippi State

You can't just hold up the losses and say "Look how terrible everything is" and handwave away all the wins. Winning in the SEC is hard. It seems like people forget that and think if we aren't murdering all our opponents then we suck. Last season was a year AU didn't come out the gates prepared, rebounded to become the #2 team in the SEC, got bit by injuries and failed to adjust properly to those injuries resulting in a disappointing finish to a season that looked like it had a shot to be special

That's an actual no sugar or shite coated analysis
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61586 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 5:52 pm to
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It wasn't a "very bad" year. You don't play in the Sugar Bowl after a very bad year. You aren't in contention for the SEC West in November in a very bad year.


Ok, then I will change the verbiage. What games did we play last year where we played well. Im not talking "But we won" crap. What games did we play well.


You are making a lot of excuses in your analysis.

"We got hurt", "A ridiculous good punt block", etc. Dude, those things happened every year. Thats why a program like Auburn should not be close enough to a programs like Vandy that a blocked Kick could make a difference.

And yes the team looked good at times. Just not very many of them and not against any good teams. I dont buy the "defensive struggle" with LSU. We could not score a TD on offense. Not one. And we were in there close many times.

The team ended up playing in the Sugar bowl but if you honestly break it down, we never played that well last year other than a few games against programs that we should play well against.

This post was edited on 8/4/17 at 5:58 pm
Posted by Rig
BHM
Member since Aug 2011
41856 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 5:53 pm to
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Ok, then I will change the verbiage.
Yeah you will
Posted by TigerPaw1
Chattanooga, TN
Member since Apr 2011
16979 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 6:00 pm to
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Ok, then I will change the verbiage. What games did we play last year where we played well. Im not talking "But we won" crap. What games did we play well. 

LSU
Arkansas
Mississippi State
Ole Miss

Offense couldn't score TDs against LSU but not many teams found the endzone against that defense however they gave Carlson a chance to win the game. Kelly threw for a bunch of yards but defense adjusted and allowed 7 pts in 2nd half. Miss St game was over at half tho would have been nice to see a stronger finish. We destroyed Arkansas

Defense played well against everybody but Bama and OK but even in those games they played well early until the snaps started piling up

Injuries and inability of coaches to adapt cost us our last 3 losses on offense. We lost to Clemson because Gus was a dumbass and A&M was flat better than us that night

Like I said. There was some good and there was some bad. Other than Bama and maybe FL whose season in the SEC would you have traded with?
This post was edited on 8/4/17 at 6:03 pm
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61586 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 6:03 pm to
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Yeah you will


You are getting good at theses one liners RIg. Not to really offer anything else lately...


Call it what you want but the team played like shite most of last year. Yea we won some games and made it to a big bowl game but got embarrassed by most of our rivals and OU, who everyone here was begging to play, embarrassed us and Gus got "Out Gused" by big game Bob.


I did not change my opinion. Just trying to make Paw happy how I use my words..




Posted by TigerPaw1
Chattanooga, TN
Member since Apr 2011
16979 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 6:35 pm to
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You are making a lot of excuses in your analysis.

"We got hurt", "A ridiculous good punt block", etc. Dude, those things happened every year.Thats why a program like Auburn should not be close enough to a programs like Vandy that a blocked Kick could make a difference.

You act like Vandy was utter dogshit. They weren't. But I agree that wasn't a great game for AU. But kinda crazy to not at least acknowledge AU's starting QB was hurt and our starting RB got hurt going in for the game ending TD making that last drive you brought up non existent. I mean you can call that an excuse all you want but that's some serious shitty luck

Also I like how you get to play the "lucky" card for LSU win but I point out when AU was unlucky and it's an "excuse"

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And yes the team looked good at times. Just not very many of them and not against any good teams. I dont buy the "defensive struggle" with LSU. We could not score a TD on offense. Not one. And we were in there close many times.

So if we replace one TD for one FG is that a good game then? I mean those were two really good defenses battling out. Half you guys moan about the good ole days when defense reign supreme. That was that game. Two really good defenses stuffing average offenses. Difference was we had the best kicker in football. I consider that a quality win

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The team ended up playing in the Sugar bowl but if you honestly break it down, we never played that well last year other than a few games against programs that we should play well against.

We will have to agree to disagree. We weren't a great team all year but we were great more than you will give credit for


This post was edited on 8/4/17 at 6:38 pm
Posted by TigerPaw1
Chattanooga, TN
Member since Apr 2011
16979 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 6:37 pm to
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Just trying to make Paw happy how I use my words..

Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61586 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 7:49 pm to
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Also I like how you get to play the "lucky" card for LSU win but I point out when AU was unlucky and it's an "excuse"


Its a skill....


Posted by TigerPaw1
Chattanooga, TN
Member since Apr 2011
16979 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 7:51 pm to
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Its a skill....



Hopefully we kickass this year so we don't have debate whether we were bad, average or just kinda good some of the time. Ready for some actual football to talk about
This post was edited on 8/4/17 at 7:51 pm
Posted by JamalSanders
On a boat
Member since Jul 2015
12135 posts
Posted on 8/5/17 at 8:03 am to
Some of the willfully short sighted negativity about last year's team is astounding.
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 8/5/17 at 8:13 am to
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Some of the willfully short sighted negativity about last year's team is astounding.



I don't believe it is short-sighted to see reality. Auburn 2016 at no time last season was truly a championship team. They were a very good team. A 9 win type team. Injuries caused us to win 8.

Every team has weaknesses. Our major two weaknesses were QB play and Oline play (especially pass pro). I would consider those weaknesses greater than say safety play.
This post was edited on 8/5/17 at 8:21 am
Posted by Rig
BHM
Member since Aug 2011
41856 posts
Posted on 8/5/17 at 10:42 am to
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You are getting good at theses one liners RIg.
Agreed.

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Not to really offer anything else lately... 

Also agreed.
Posted by Pavoloco83
Acworth Ga. too many damn dawgs
Member since Nov 2013
15347 posts
Posted on 8/6/17 at 9:02 am to
Big Deal. I dont put much stock in the coaches poll. Coaches only watch their own games anyway. Besides, once we kick Clempsums arse, we'll be up there... :)
Posted by vandelay industries
CSRA
Member since May 2012
2477 posts
Posted on 8/6/17 at 10:06 pm to
I know some people say they'd prefer we'd be off the radar before the season starts, but for that to happen, it usually comes at the expense of stinking up the joint the season before. TBH, it'd be nice to enter every season 13th-ish...
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