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re: Auburn hires Greg Brown as DB coach

Posted on 1/8/17 at 9:04 am to
Posted by PrisonMike
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 1/8/17 at 9:04 am to
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What coach wants to come into a situation...

Warfarer, respectfully, this isn't the Glee Club at Snowflake High School. This is the Gridiron, where people make millions of dollars to win Championships. If they don't, they should be fired. Sony don't make money. CEO fired. Toyota. Fired. Disney. Fired. And so on.

Maybe we could pretend this was the good old days if the coaches were making good old days money. But they're not.

I'm not saying Auburn wants the same reputation as the Bammer fan base, but we need to have a reputation of toughness and doing the hard thing no matter what. This includes firing JJ and Gus. You do that, and over time, your coaches will rise to the expectation and so will your fan base.

This post was edited on 1/8/17 at 1:14 pm
Posted by plaric
Pike Road, Alabama
Member since Jun 2011
2204 posts
Posted on 1/8/17 at 9:07 am to
Using that logic, our athletic department is one of the few that turns a profit. So From JJ down should be safe...
Posted by DyeHardDylan
Member since Nov 2011
7730 posts
Posted on 1/8/17 at 9:16 am to
Can he coach offense?
Posted by Warfarer
Dothan, AL
Member since May 2010
12125 posts
Posted on 1/8/17 at 9:31 am to
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where people make millions of dollars to win Championships.


this is just flat out unrealistic expectations then. there is one champion a year and we have won two in 60 years including one of them with our current coach heavily involved and he coached us to another chance at it. The expectations are what the biggest problem is here, not the coaches. Was I pissed off at a couple of our performances this year? Absolutely, the UGA games burns my arse more than any other this year but the others were against very good teams.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48928 posts
Posted on 1/8/17 at 9:32 am to
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What coach wants to come into a situation where the fans won't shut the frick up about firing a coach that just went to the Sugar Bowl, or took them to a national championship a few years back?


Is this a troll?
Posted by Warfarer
Dothan, AL
Member since May 2010
12125 posts
Posted on 1/8/17 at 9:41 am to
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Is this a troll?


if you don't think that plays a huge role in us not landing top tier assistants then you are just trying to fool yourself. We have a fanbase screaming to fire a coach that hasn't lost the players, has taken us to a national championship game and we just played in a Sugar Bowl and our fanbase still won't shut the frick up about firing him. Do you really not think that plays a huge role in not getting our first guys?

Same goes with recruiting. If I were a player leaving high school that really wanted to go play for Malzahn at Auburn, I would certainly look at other schools when he is top of the hot seat list every year because a lot of the fan base wants to fire him.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42559 posts
Posted on 1/8/17 at 9:52 am to
I could be completely wrong, and I hope I am, but this feels like the end of Tubs career here when he was just hiring people to fill an open position.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48928 posts
Posted on 1/8/17 at 10:00 am to
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We have a fanbase screaming to fire a coach that hasn't lost the players,


Yet.

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has taken us to a national championship game


4 years ago.

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we just played in a Sugar Bowl


Back doored our way in as an 8 win team and losing to Georgia and Alabama the weeks prior


It's not even that. It's HOW we look playing the game. We have an offensive coach and we look dysfunctional on offense. We have once again placed all the eggs in a transfer.
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
21644 posts
Posted on 1/8/17 at 10:09 am to
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The expectations are what the biggest problem is here, not the coaches.


Like the expectation of getting first downs? Such high standards we have.
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22454 posts
Posted on 1/8/17 at 11:39 am to
To be fair, our quarterback did break his arm early in the game.

Most teams would shite the bed after that.

At this point, I just hope for the best next season. Defense will not be as good, but hopefully still better than four years ago. Offense? Well we have our good running backs and hopefully Prince shows up for the Oline. We have a lot of talented receivers who could step up this year. Hopefully Stidham is really good, but I also hope we have a viable back up --- something we were clearly missing.

And thank God for Carlson.

We get GA and Alabama at home. We play Texas A&M at their place, so that should be to our advantage.

I get everyone feeling like this is a shite season, but next year is make or break for Malzahn. I hope he gets it right.

Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48928 posts
Posted on 1/8/17 at 12:42 pm to
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get everyone feeling like this is a shite season, but next year is make or break for Malzahn. I hope he gets it right.



This is it
Posted by JamalSanders
On a boat
Member since Jul 2015
12135 posts
Posted on 1/8/17 at 1:25 pm to
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No reason to blow a huge payout when this whole staff hinges on this year


Repeat after me, Gus isn't getting fired til at least after the 2018 season. It doesn't matter whether you like it or not, that is a fact.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48928 posts
Posted on 1/8/17 at 1:38 pm to
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Repeat after me, Gus isn't getting fired til at least after the 2018 season. It doesn't matter whether you like it or not, that is a fact.


no. He may last to then but we haven't told him that
Posted by DyeHardDylan
Member since Nov 2011
7730 posts
Posted on 1/8/17 at 1:50 pm to
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Repeat after me, Gus isn't getting fired til at least after the 2018 season. It doesn't matter whether you like it or not, that is a fact.


Another 7-8 win season isn't going to cut it. The last three seasons have been unacceptable and the excuses have been the same with the promise always being that next year we'll be better.
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22454 posts
Posted on 1/8/17 at 2:01 pm to
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Another 7-8 win season isn't going to cut it. The last three seasons have been unacceptable and the excuses have been the same with the promise always being that next year we'll be better.


Agreed.

This year is defining for him. I think he has to at least beat 2 out of 3 when it comes to Al, LSU and GA.

And honestly, next year's schedule does not provide any excuses for losing more than three games and keep any confidence that he is the right guy at the right time.

Which is a shame, because I really hoped he would work out. I hope he makes all of us who are doubting him look foolish --- like I did before 2013 season and do now.

I do not hate Gus and I want him to succeed, but if he cannot do it next year, well it is probably time for a new AD and then a new hire. I have read some posters saying AU is behind in facility upgrades--- college football is an arms race right now and you have to take every step possible to stay competitive.
Posted by JamalSanders
On a boat
Member since Jul 2015
12135 posts
Posted on 1/8/17 at 2:22 pm to
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Another 7-8 win season isn't going to cut it.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
36426 posts
Posted on 1/8/17 at 2:31 pm to
What's so funny about that?
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
Member since Feb 2010
91645 posts
Posted on 1/8/17 at 3:16 pm to
Nothing. It's 100% true.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
36426 posts
Posted on 1/8/17 at 3:25 pm to
That's what I'm saying.
Posted by JamalSanders
On a boat
Member since Jul 2015
12135 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 8:17 am to
If Auburn goes 8-4 next year and only beats one out of LSU, UGA, and bama he will be here another year. I would put money that he would be here at 7-5 and losing to all three.

We have a lame duck President, so at least summer of 2018 before JJ is gone. JJ won't hire the next football coach.
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