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Posted on 10/17/14 at 6:03 am to
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
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Posted on 10/17/14 at 6:03 am to
ROC and Jovon are completely different style of runners. We easily could let them both tote the rock enough to be happy.

Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 10/17/14 at 6:04 am to
What is the AU soccer player and weed connection? I missed that
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 10/17/14 at 7:04 am to
quote:

ROC and Jovon are completely different style of runners. We easily could let them both tote the rock enough to be happy


We can but will we?
Posted by ellitor
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 10/17/14 at 8:18 am to
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We can but will we?
If the past year and a half is an indication probably not. Gus loves going with a hot hand. Also as things stand now it looks like Jovon will be coming in behind Roc when he gets here.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
34875 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 8:46 am to
I find that so weird, because historically, that hasn't seemed to be the case. Watching his Tulsa offenses, at Arky St., and even us in 09/10, he did a pretty good job of spreading the ball around. Wonder what has changed?
Posted by DecaturAU
Birmignham, AL
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 10/17/14 at 8:57 am to
One reason he goes with the "hot hand" is because he doesn't want to sub so the defense doesn't get time to sub. He wants to start and finish the drive with the same personnel a lot. So that means whatever RB starts the drive he'd like to keep in the whole time. But I seem to remember we used to run a lot more 2 back sets than we do now though. We should have CAP and Roc in the backfield together flanking Nick on either side.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 10/17/14 at 8:59 am to
We sub our receivers a lot, our pace has not been very fast at all this year. Even when we were in what should have been a hurry up situation toward the end of the State game.
Posted by DecaturAU
Birmignham, AL
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 10/17/14 at 9:05 am to
Yea we seem to do a lot more hurry up and wait this year, which is fine with me. I like to go fast in certain situations, but not all game. But I do like how we hurry to the line so they can't substitute a lot. I really wish we would run some more jet sweeps or even bring back some of the reverses we used to run back in 2009 with Terrell Zachery.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 9:16 am to
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If the past year and a half is an indication probably not. Gus loves going with a hot hand


Tre Mason was SEC OPOY & ROC/Barber don't seem to be able to block.

I wouldn't call it going with the hot hand but rather goign with the clear cut best option.

If Jovon can learn fast enough, there wouldn't be a clearcut "best option"
Posted by jrljr
Member since Aug 2012
4074 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 9:22 am to
Jovon "has work to do" in that he just isn't finished yet. He is on track to arrive in December. He needs to get back to 220lbs. He is playing on a team that lost a bunch of the talent from their National Championship Game team of a year ago.
Posted by AUtigR24
Happy Hour
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 10/17/14 at 9:57 am to
We really haven't paced at all this season. Our offense has looked like a clusterfrick more times than not.

Dropped screens Ricardo
Blown up screens to Sammi
Pussy running by Ricardo sweeps
Batted down passes
Fulse whiffing on lbs
NM with bad reads in read option game.
CAP running into the back of our guard Center
Red zone WTF play calls
Trying to force JJ into the game at WR
Corey Grant having 5 touches in the last 2 games.
ROC beasting then getting yanked out
Not getting Ray Davis Uzomah involved in passing game.

Not sure if Gus gave control over to Lashlee or what but this offense is hard to watch this year. Thank gawd for Duke Williams
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
34875 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 10:07 am to
It really has been strange. Does not look like a Malzahn offense. I realize stat wise it has still been pretty good, but it hasn't passed the eye test much.
Posted by ellitor
Member since Sep 2012
14285 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 10:35 am to
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If Jovon can learn fast enough, there wouldn't be a clearcut "best option"
As pointed out by the info 25 passed on from AUC on the previous page it's about a lot more than Jovon learning fast enough. He has to get his head right. His confidence is shaken. He's gained 15 pounds and lost a step this year due to the added weight. Jovon has the talent to turn things around at AU and revert back to his freshman juco year form but it looks to me that would be foolish to assume so early in his AU career at this point. By the time Jovon gets things right Roc may be miles ahead in the staff's eyes at that point.
Posted by ellitor
Member since Sep 2012
14285 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 10:41 am to
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We really haven't paced at all this season.
I'm starting to think HUNH is more of a slogan than reality with Gus except for in spurts. He has rarely balls to the walls HUNHed it at AU. We did not pace much last season. We were only 54th in the nation in plays per second ran when a team was on O which is the core pace stat.
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 10/17/14 at 10:52 am to
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What is the AU soccer player and weed connection? I missed that


It came from a random post on here cluing us in that Nick Marshall had been caught smoking weed in study hall with an AU soccer player and it was all going to come out soon.

The post was made right before the Kansas State game, I think?
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
34875 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 11:35 am to
2009 we were pretty damn fast. Maybe it has to do with Marshall. His inability to really read a defense makes Gus slow down some to check calls and what not, thus why wears always hurrying to the line, and then stopping.
Posted by kage
ATL
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 10/17/14 at 11:41 am to
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2009 we were pretty damn fast. Maybe it has to do with Marshall. His inability to really read a defense makes Gus slow down some to check calls and what not, thus why wears always hurrying to the line, and then stopping.



Teams are starting to really show us some different defensive looks, so I think we're having to adapt and adjust as the games go on.

If's don't win you games, but if we don't have those two immediate turnovers against Miss St and give up 14, I think we're 6-0. That really threw us off our game plan right from the start. We started to settle back into it after we made the game close, but starting out 21-0 will radically change what you're doing on offense.
Posted by ellitor
Member since Sep 2012
14285 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 12:08 pm to
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Maybe it has to do with Marshall. His inability to really read a defense makes Gus slow down some to check calls and what not, thus why wears always hurrying to the line, and then stopping.
Doubt it. The O is even less pace rhythm when JJ is in as opposed to Nick.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 12:12 pm to
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Doubt it. The O is even less pace rhythm when JJ is in as opposed to Nick.


Could be that he doesn't have Lashlee in the booth. Takes longer for the booth guy to tell Gus/Lashlee, them interpret it, then tell Nick good/audible

Posted by jrljr
Member since Aug 2012
4074 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 1:03 pm to
We need to recruit Jeff Holland @ WDE. He has the skillset and the frame to add muscle. I believe Thornton and Lawson will be dynamic. and add Kennion. But watching Holland a bit last night and he just looked like he would be a natural.
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