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re: What do you expect from the Razorbacks' basketball team this year?
Posted on 10/16/13 at 4:49 pm to cigsmcgee
Posted on 10/16/13 at 4:49 pm to cigsmcgee
quote:If last year's garbage team didn't lose at home to any of those teams, this year's team won't, either.
we could easily drop games at home to Fl, uK, and Mizz
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Posted on 10/16/13 at 4:52 pm to Drewbie
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I think those days are behind us. We have the ability to score easily in the post now. That form of offense is WAY more suitable for winning on the road. Anything less than 21-23 wins is a disappointment for me this year.
I've heard Kingsley and Portis can make FTs, the rest of the team has improved in this area as well, but its just practice.
FTs, getting to line, making them, keeping the other team off the line is the secret to winning on the road.
Posted on 10/16/13 at 4:52 pm to Drewbie
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If last year's garbage team didn't lose at home to any of those teams, this year's team won't, either.
Kentucky will have more talent than last year's team.
Florida should be improved.
Mizzou is an unknown at this point.
Posted on 10/16/13 at 4:55 pm to DaleDenton
quote:That could be said for winning games period. But there's no doubt that having a reliable scoring option in the post is key for winning on the road. We were monsters at home last year and Mizzou still nearly beat us because of their post threat that we just couldn't stop. Their shooters were bad. Their paint scoring is what kept it from being a blowout.
FTs, getting to line, making them, keeping the other team off the line is the secret to winning on the road.
When I look at this team, I see an actual team. We have people that are playing the right positions at every position. No more makeshift lineups like Powell at the 4. We have a scoring option in the post in Portis, a defensive big man in Kingsley, we have senior leadership, quick cutters, 3 point shooters, and vocal court leaders. It's just a gut feeling, but I think the puzzle pieces are there. Whether they can be put together in one year will be the key to the season.
This post was edited on 10/16/13 at 4:57 pm
Posted on 10/16/13 at 4:57 pm to DaleDenton
quote:Good. They'll lose by 12 instead of 30
Kentucky will have more talent than last year's team.
quote:Home game. No care.
Florida should be improved.
quote:See above.
Mizzou is an unknown at this point.
Posted on 10/16/13 at 5:07 pm to Drewbie
We play both UK and Mizzou twice (along with LSU, Bama, and UGA).
@ Tenn
Florida and Ole Miss at home.
Those are the teams picked to finish ahead of us, out of the "one shot" games, @ Tenn will be the most difficult.
Against the worst teams in the league it will be @ aTm, @ Ms. State, @ Vandy, vs Auburn, vs Carolina.
Notice we play the worst teams (outside of UGA) only once, which is a good thing, the majority of those games being on the road is an opportunity to get the "road wins" the committee sometimes uses to put a team in or leave a team out of the tourney, sometimes because they shite all over teams who "did not win on the road" last season while seeding highly some teams with pathetic road records (Mizzou) for the tourney last season.
@ Tenn
Florida and Ole Miss at home.
Those are the teams picked to finish ahead of us, out of the "one shot" games, @ Tenn will be the most difficult.
Against the worst teams in the league it will be @ aTm, @ Ms. State, @ Vandy, vs Auburn, vs Carolina.
Notice we play the worst teams (outside of UGA) only once, which is a good thing, the majority of those games being on the road is an opportunity to get the "road wins" the committee sometimes uses to put a team in or leave a team out of the tourney, sometimes because they shite all over teams who "did not win on the road" last season while seeding highly some teams with pathetic road records (Mizzou) for the tourney last season.
Posted on 10/16/13 at 6:32 pm to LittleRockHog501
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Posted on 10/16/13 at 7:26 pm to Drewbie
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If last year's garbage team didn't lose at home to any of those teams, this year's team won't, either.
there are just WAY too many unknowns about this years team for me to feel any absolute confidence in a win over the top teams.
our top returning scorer didnt average double-digits. not a knock on Coty, but that's just where the team is at. im hopeful, i like most of these players, just need to see the team gel on the court before i get too pumped.
Posted on 10/16/13 at 7:54 pm to trillhog
It's way early but if I were to look at it this early I think at worst, Arkansas should enter conference play 10-1. At Cal I suppose is the toughest game. The rest are at home.
Of the single game match ups, should win @A&M, Aub, SC, @MSU and @Vandy. I think you get OM too because it's at home and OM lost a lot. That should be 16-1.
Of the other single games you have Florida at home and at UT. Tough games but y'all got Florida at home last year.
Twice you play UK, MU, LSU, Bama and UGA. Could/should sweep UGA. My guess is you plan on splitting at best with the other 4.
So if all things break just right(UF, sweep UGA and split other 4) that takes you to 23 wins. Again, though, that's if things break just right. Of course I like to think my Tigers will win both.
Of the single game match ups, should win @A&M, Aub, SC, @MSU and @Vandy. I think you get OM too because it's at home and OM lost a lot. That should be 16-1.
Of the other single games you have Florida at home and at UT. Tough games but y'all got Florida at home last year.
Twice you play UK, MU, LSU, Bama and UGA. Could/should sweep UGA. My guess is you plan on splitting at best with the other 4.
So if all things break just right(UF, sweep UGA and split other 4) that takes you to 23 wins. Again, though, that's if things break just right. Of course I like to think my Tigers will win both.
Posted on 10/16/13 at 7:56 pm to reedus23
Also, how many inherited players does MA still have? Got to give him a chance to get his players through the system before you talk about getting rid of him. Especially with the system he runs.
Posted on 10/16/13 at 8:11 pm to reedus23
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how many inherited players does MA still have
i think 4, with 3 being SRs. just 3 if you dont count Madden, a Jr, who was part of Pels last class.
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@MSU
i never assume a win against MSU. i dont know why, but we always struggle against them.
Posted on 10/16/13 at 8:45 pm to DaleDenton
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What rub?
Kikko has been a leader for the team so far in practice.
Clarke, Harris, and Qualls have picked up the slack as well and have been the leaders when Kikko isn't on the court.
Well, maybe we have a difference of opinion... but we haven't had in a long time(and still don't that I can see, maybe you do) the kind of point guard that we need.
Posted on 10/16/13 at 9:41 pm to WonderWartHawg
to win winnable road games
another road performance like last year will get MA canned, and rightfully so
I need to be able to at least watch to halftime on our road games without turning it off at a bare minimum
another road performance like last year will get MA canned, and rightfully so
I need to be able to at least watch to halftime on our road games without turning it off at a bare minimum
Posted on 10/16/13 at 10:16 pm to DaleDenton
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PG will be by committee between Madden, Haydar, Gulley, and Wagner.
A HUGE concern for me.
I just don't see a Tourney appearance without a legit PG
Posted on 10/16/13 at 10:20 pm to LittleRockHog501
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Posted on 10/17/13 at 12:22 pm to reedus23
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Also, how many inherited players does MA still have?
2-4 depending on how you want to count them.
Ricky Scott and Madracus Wade were recruited and played for Pel, each were a 4* on a recruiting service, both have been disappointing for the majority of their time here.
Rashad Madden was recruited by Pel, but he has only played for Mike.
Kikko Haydar is a walk-on who had played for both. Kikko has a scholarship based on academics because he is on a genius level in the classroom, he is actually paid to go to school from his schollys.
Fred Gulley played at Fayetteville HS and went to Oklahoma St. while Pel was here, he transferred back last year as a walk on and is on scholarship this season for his senior year.
Alandis Harris ended up at Houston while Pel was here, he has transferred back and will be a RS Junior this season.
Coty Clarke and Davion Spivey are both JUCO transfers who will be seniors this year.
6 Seniors, 2 Juniors, 4 sophomores, 3 freshmen make up the 15 man roster at this date. Spivey and Haydar are walk-ons.
IIRC, we had no seniors last year and only two in Mike's first year.
Posted on 10/17/13 at 12:33 pm to WonderWartHawg
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Well, maybe we have a difference of opinion... but we haven't had in a long time(and still don't that I can see, maybe you do) the kind of point guard that we need.
Honestly, what is that point guard like?
Mayberry was a guy who played defense, shared the ball, and could score.
Beck was a "big" point who was tough, played hard nosed defense, shared the ball, and would post up smaller PGs.
Reid was a slasher, played good defense, could get to the basket and was good at sharing the ball.
The common theme of our great point guards over the years has been playing good defense, sharing the ball, and scoring when the opportunity was there, none of these guys were "the scorer" on the team. May had Day, Big0, Beck has 14 other guys on the roster who could score, Reid had Pat and Hood.
Gulley and Kikko play hard defense, Madden isn't a liability on that end but he could improve, all Madden is capable of hitting from midrange, Kikko and Gulley can hit it from outside (when Gulley is looking to score, been a problem for him). Wagner is capable of hitting a three, he needs to improve on defense and learn to not over penetrate towards the basket, something Madden is great at, stopping around the free throw line and hitting the easy shot instead of trying to score over a collapsed defense at the basket.
The position isn't in ideal shape, but it isn't as bad as many believe. Not having BJ Young on the court acting like a black hole for the ball on the offensive end and leaving the team in a 4 on 5 situation on the defensive end is going to make the play look better on both ends of the court, reports out of practice has the team sharing the ball like a team should, this is not something that always happened when Young and Powell were on the court, both are great players, but too much one on one in their game to benefit a team. Both had little pride in playing defense, neither cared to show up in road games either.
Now whether this team makes the tourney or not is a different issue, I think they can, not sure if "they should", or will. The play on the court will be greatly improved. Weaknesses on the roster continue to be improved through recruiting with a good shooter and a "true point" in the next class.
Posted on 10/17/13 at 12:34 pm to ArHog
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I just don't see a Tourney appearance without a legit PG
I don't care how the sausage is made - but at the end of year 3, we will have paid him 6.6 mil.
I want a fricking sausage sandwich
Posted on 10/17/13 at 12:35 pm to Porker Face
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another road performance like last year will get MA canned, and rightfully so
No it won't, Mike seat isn't warm let along Hot.
His players are doing well in the classroom and not getting into trouble off the court, those are two areas that needed huge improvement after Pel, Mike's experience in cleaning up Mizzou was one of the reasons he was hired, it wasn't only because of his past here.
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