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re: What did we learn from Sam's presser today
Posted on 10/23/23 at 11:23 pm to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
Posted on 10/23/23 at 11:23 pm to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
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Posted on 10/24/23 at 12:18 am to Jack Ruby
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What did we learn from Sam's presser today
That he doesn't know what the hell he's doing.
Posted on 10/24/23 at 10:37 am to Inadvertent Whistle
It's fascinating to me that people on 247 and Talk radio think Sam actually did himself some good at that presser yesterday.
He basically said he had no control over his OC and knew he made a bad hire almost immediately and never did anything about it and then it festered and ruined his offense.
How is that viewed as a good thing from a PR standpoint?
He basically said he had no control over his OC and knew he made a bad hire almost immediately and never did anything about it and then it festered and ruined his offense.
How is that viewed as a good thing from a PR standpoint?
Posted on 10/24/23 at 11:08 am to Jack Ruby
I think you are missing the point that some folks, myself include, got from the PC...
He was honest, self-deprecating, and trying to change things for the better in stead of just taking the money and running.
He answered tough questions with humility and understanding. Dude, I believe he is way over his head, but it was refreshing to hear the honesty and the humility of the whole thing.
I still believe we can let him go, hire another and do so without being azzhats... But that's just me!
He was honest, self-deprecating, and trying to change things for the better in stead of just taking the money and running.
He answered tough questions with humility and understanding. Dude, I believe he is way over his head, but it was refreshing to hear the honesty and the humility of the whole thing.
I still believe we can let him go, hire another and do so without being azzhats... But that's just me!
Posted on 10/24/23 at 11:08 am to Jack Ruby
I don’t get it either. Every time he’s spoke to the media for the past few weeks has shown to me that the job is too much for him. I am starting to lean towards losing Odom’s mentorship as a former HC is more of an issue with him than we estimated.
Posted on 10/24/23 at 11:13 am to Jack Ruby
Posted on 10/24/23 at 3:05 pm to ArHog
For his age, he sure does lack a lot of self confidence.
He doesn't "command" a room like most head coaches. Was listening to UCA's coach talk on the radio yesterday after the TD club. That guy is on point, on message. He's passionate and well spoken. Then I realized most coaches not named Belichick fit that description.
It is all starting to make sense though. A grown man who blocks people on twitter all night then deletes the app when he loses a game also doesn't have the balls to keep his own employee in check, so instead of "meddling" during the game, he waits til we lose 6 in a row to fire him instead of just downright intervening in real time.
He doesn't "command" a room like most head coaches. Was listening to UCA's coach talk on the radio yesterday after the TD club. That guy is on point, on message. He's passionate and well spoken. Then I realized most coaches not named Belichick fit that description.
It is all starting to make sense though. A grown man who blocks people on twitter all night then deletes the app when he loses a game also doesn't have the balls to keep his own employee in check, so instead of "meddling" during the game, he waits til we lose 6 in a row to fire him instead of just downright intervening in real time.
This post was edited on 10/24/23 at 3:09 pm
Posted on 10/24/23 at 4:58 pm to YumYum Sauce
I think Sam is just a nice guy who always worked out of the spotlight and loved his Oline guys and he was happy.
When he got thrown into the fire of being an SEC head coach, he wilted and didn't want to be the bad guy. He's not an A+ alpha maniacal sociopath like most coaches are that are successful.
There's nothing wrong with that. It shows he's not some complete soulless prick. But he is also clearly not cut out to do this anymore.
When he got thrown into the fire of being an SEC head coach, he wilted and didn't want to be the bad guy. He's not an A+ alpha maniacal sociopath like most coaches are that are successful.
There's nothing wrong with that. It shows he's not some complete soulless prick. But he is also clearly not cut out to do this anymore.
Posted on 10/24/23 at 5:28 pm to ArHog
Posted on 10/24/23 at 5:32 pm to Jack Ruby
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What did we learn from Sam's presser today
I think Sam is just a nice guy who always worked out of the spotlight and loved his Oline guys and he was happy.
When he got thrown into the fire of being an SEC head coach, he wilted and didn't want to be the bad guy. He's not an A+ alpha maniacal sociopath like most coaches are that are successful.
There's nothing wrong with that. It shows he's not some complete soulless prick. But he is also clearly not cut out to do this anymore.
100% this. There's not another Arkansas coach in history I'd prefer to have a beer with, go out on the lake with, or spend a 4th of July BBQ with over Sam Pittman. He's not like the egomaniac, robotic, power hungry coaches you get in college and NFL for the most part, he's just a guy. A dude.
And I think as long as you can keep up the winning and high spirits, that kind of coach can work well for a program like Arkansas and be successful. When you're winning but still known as the underdogs with a chip on your shoulder, that type of head coach fits perfectly and can get his players to play above their heads FOR him.
If you listen to player interviews the last few years, they all have a similar tone and message about playing hard for their coach to make him and the state proud, and because THEY want HIM to succeed - not the other way around.
It's only when you start spiraling down out of control that this sort of attitude doesn't really work to pull you out of the tailspin. Once these players realize in their own minds, behind the scenes, after several losses that the coach they're playing so hard for doesn't have the answers to get back to winning no matter how hard they try - then the disillusionment begins.
That's where we are now.
Posted on 10/24/23 at 5:33 pm to YumYum Sauce
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For his age, he sure does lack a lot of self confidence.
He doesn't "command" a room like most head coaches. Was listening to UCA's coach talk on the radio yesterday after the TD club. That guy is on point, on message. He's passionate and well spoken. Then I realized most coaches not named Belichick fit that description.
I agree with this. I honestly feel bad for him and will not post another personal attack against him or his chest. I was actually anticipating him being a defiant arse post game. He was anything but that. He's in over his head, he knows it and needs to work out a way to save face. I pledge to post no more insults about Sam Pittman. Unless he does become a arse.
Posted on 10/24/23 at 5:44 pm to SmackoverHawg
The best case scenario would be Pittman agreeing to step down with a slightly reduced buyout, so long as he can still be employed in some ceremonial fashion by the AD and be part of the program. Maybe the NIL fundraising director or something to that effect, shaking hands and kissing babies at fundraising events.
No on the field coaching position would work since it would step on the new coach's toes to have the old HC hanging around, but he could even take a position in the recruiting office since he loves the state and program and can speak to the pride and support this state brings to it's football program to recruits.
There's no reason the relationship has to end ugly and only 15 years later people can stand to listen to him like was the case with Nutt. He can still be a part of - and advocate for - the program in some fashion.
Posted on 10/24/23 at 6:55 pm to RazorBroncs
Don't forget about the fresh cut meats from their meat department.
Hatfield won't be around forever and Sam could easily land that job to supplement his retirement.
Hatfield won't be around forever and Sam could easily land that job to supplement his retirement.
Posted on 10/24/23 at 9:23 pm to RazorBroncs
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The best case scenario would be Pittman agreeing to step down with a slightly reduced buyout, so long as he can still be employed in some ceremonial fashion by the AD and be part of the program. Maybe the NIL fundraising director or something to that effect, shaking hands and kissing babies at fundraising events.
You’ve got to be kidding. Fayetteville is a long commute from Hot Springs and with the money he’s made and the buyout he could tell his bitch arse haters to kiss his arse and head to the track and have a cold beer. He needs to make sure he’s fired, I’m sure his agent will see to that.
I don’t know what he’s thinking but that’s what I’d do.
This post was edited on 10/24/23 at 10:02 pm
Posted on 10/25/23 at 10:08 am to hawgfaninc
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But we now have fans claiming they saw his inability to adapt coming
Our fans are just upset and lashing out like children throwing a temper tantrum trying to control the uncontrollable with their anger.
The joys of using sports to take one’s mind off the real world.
This post was edited on 10/25/23 at 10:16 am
Posted on 10/25/23 at 10:39 am to hawgfaninc
quote:and some of our fans are trying to distract from the fact that they spent 8 months fan-boying for an OC that just got canned in less than a season. Might need to update your graphic.
Our fans are just upset and lashing out like children throwing a temper tantrum trying to control the uncontrollable with their anger.
The joys of using sports to take one’s mind off the real world.
Posted on 10/25/23 at 10:41 am to hawgfaninc
One thing I noted early in his tenure is that Sam likes to be liked. Perfect for Arkansas where our fans show up for events with the HC and everywhere in the state, including the Arkansas State campus, is Hog Country.
Not so great when you go through a bad losing stretch because... everywhere in the state is Hog Country.
Ease him into some glorified glad handing position and Pittman would be an asset for the University for years to come. He doesn't even have to work on campus, just do events, visits, and what not.
I don't think HY wants to fire Pittman, hell, other than football Arkansas is having an orgy of sport success at the moment. We've never been this good at so many sports at the same time in the history of the school. A very public and bitter firing of the football HC could ruin all that.
That having been said, I think if it comes down to it, Yurachek will pull the plug on him.
Not so great when you go through a bad losing stretch because... everywhere in the state is Hog Country.
Ease him into some glorified glad handing position and Pittman would be an asset for the University for years to come. He doesn't even have to work on campus, just do events, visits, and what not.
I don't think HY wants to fire Pittman, hell, other than football Arkansas is having an orgy of sport success at the moment. We've never been this good at so many sports at the same time in the history of the school. A very public and bitter firing of the football HC could ruin all that.
That having been said, I think if it comes down to it, Yurachek will pull the plug on him.
Posted on 10/25/23 at 11:13 am to silverstreak
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and some of our fans are trying to distract from the fact that they spent 8 months fan-boying for an OC that just got canned in less than a season. Might need to update your graphic.
My graphic? You mean the one the team’s senior graphic designer made? LINK
Since you’re concerned, you can ask him for an update. Do better with your gotcha attempts.
Having a glass half full outlook doesn’t equate to being a fan boy. Having a glass half empty “realistic” outlook does make you miserable to be around though.
Posted on 10/25/23 at 11:23 am to hawgfaninc
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Having a glass half full outlook doesn’t equate to being a fan boy. Having a glass half empty “realistic” outlook does make you miserable to be around though.
agreed!
Posted on 10/25/23 at 12:17 pm to hawgfaninc
I saw it as a bad fit and said so but didn't spend the next several months bitching about it either. But I suppose we should all toe the line and be "glass half full" by talking about how awesome everything is. Go ahead and tell us how great being 2-6 is.
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