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So I believe our red zone woes are an Enos problem
Posted on 11/28/16 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 11/28/16 at 1:14 pm
If you remember last year vs toledo we couldn't score in the red zone because we had no run game.
This year we have a sub par line and when we got into the red zone we couldn't just run it in most of the time.
I've noticed when we get into the red zone we have about 5 plays we run.
The one we run the most is the austin speed option. Infact it's pathetic how obvious it is when we are about to run it.
If Enos can't just run the ball in from the 10 we can't score. He really isn't that creative in the red zone. He is amazing between the 15s (toledo last year)
But if we can't just line up, and run it in, he can't come up with a way to score.
I know they claim we have a red zone offense and then like 7 2 point plays we practice. I think the 7 2 point plays are our red zone offense. I like enos, but this is something he needs to work on.
This year we have a sub par line and when we got into the red zone we couldn't just run it in most of the time.
I've noticed when we get into the red zone we have about 5 plays we run.
The one we run the most is the austin speed option. Infact it's pathetic how obvious it is when we are about to run it.
If Enos can't just run the ball in from the 10 we can't score. He really isn't that creative in the red zone. He is amazing between the 15s (toledo last year)
But if we can't just line up, and run it in, he can't come up with a way to score.
I know they claim we have a red zone offense and then like 7 2 point plays we practice. I think the 7 2 point plays are our red zone offense. I like enos, but this is something he needs to work on.
This post was edited on 11/28/16 at 1:16 pm
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 1:15 pm to russellvillehog
It's an offensive line problem.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 1:17 pm to russellvillehog
I don't think that's an Enos problem. We were not physical enough to knock people off the ball in the red zone so the run game would stall. Then we would have to resort to all kinds of misdirection or passing plays to get the ball in the end zone.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 1:19 pm to DiafGtfo
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I don't think that's an Enos problem. We were not physical enough to knock people off the ball in the red zone so the run game would stall. Then we would have to resort to all kinds of misdirection or passing plays to get the ball in the end zone.
No way to know when we ran 4 straight pass plays at the end.
What a fricking joke that entire game was.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 1:20 pm to hogSS
I've watched lane Kiffin score without running in the red zone plenty by being creative with formations and screens.
We need be more diverse in the redzone. I can tell what play we are about to run by our formation.
We need be more diverse in the redzone. I can tell what play we are about to run by our formation.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 1:46 pm to hogSS
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It's an offensive line problem.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 2:01 pm to russellvillehog
I think we could stand to trade in about 50% of our under center play action plays for some spread shotgun looks. Play action should be something you sprinkle in throughout a game at opportune times, not something you do more often than not when you want to pass the ball.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 2:09 pm to russellvillehog
Its a lazy coaching staff that sucks at recruiting problem
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:26 pm to russellvillehog
Our offensive line is horrendous. It was obvious when we were having to resort to end arounds with Cornelius to punch it in on the goal line against Ole Miss.
We have what Michael Lombardi would call a 10/10 offense. We're fantastic between the 10s, but horrid in down-and-goal situations.
I also think some of that lies at the feet of Enos, especially when we derped it up at the goal line countless times in the Texas A&M game.
Enos is one of those hot and cold playcallers. When he's on (MSU, first half of Mizzou) it's a thing of beauty. When he's off (Toledo, second half A&M, second half Mizzou) it's a horror show.
We have what Michael Lombardi would call a 10/10 offense. We're fantastic between the 10s, but horrid in down-and-goal situations.
I also think some of that lies at the feet of Enos, especially when we derped it up at the goal line countless times in the Texas A&M game.
Enos is one of those hot and cold playcallers. When he's on (MSU, first half of Mizzou) it's a thing of beauty. When he's off (Toledo, second half A&M, second half Mizzou) it's a horror show.
This post was edited on 11/28/16 at 3:28 pm
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:26 pm to hogSS
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It's an offensive line problem
Correct answer
Posted on 11/28/16 at 5:34 pm to russellvillehog
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It's an offensive line problem.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 5:41 pm to Feral
The Oline is just bad.
When you have Raulerson transfer in and start it's a bad sign. Froholdt got better but he wasn't even close to being an SEC level lineman most of the year. And I love Skipper but he gets roasted by upper echelon DE's.
Bielema better get the Oline and defense fixed or he'll lose the fan base.
When you have Raulerson transfer in and start it's a bad sign. Froholdt got better but he wasn't even close to being an SEC level lineman most of the year. And I love Skipper but he gets roasted by upper echelon DE's.
Bielema better get the Oline and defense fixed or he'll lose the fan base.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 6:16 pm to PorkSammich
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I love Skipper but he gets roasted by upper echelon DE's.
Skipper is quite possibly the most overrated player we've ever had here, and it's largely attributed to his size. For an offensive tackle, too much height can be an enormous liability because extremely tall people can't bend well, and quick defensive ends can exploit it easily. In addition to a penchant for stupid penalties at the worst time, he also got worked in pass protection by defensive ends regularly.
This post was edited on 11/28/16 at 6:25 pm
Posted on 11/28/16 at 6:22 pm to russellvillehog
I think it to be a Bert problem.
We've been more bad than good inside the 10 since he's been here.
His Arkansas teams have choked quite a bit in the redzone and in must do situations.
We've been more bad than good inside the 10 since he's been here.
His Arkansas teams have choked quite a bit in the redzone and in must do situations.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 6:53 pm to russellvillehog
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we had no run game.
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This year we have a sub par line
I think you basically answered your own inquiry. We've seen how well Enos can gameplan and call plays, he's one of the best I've ever seen at overall balance and putting his players in position to succeed based off their skill set (see Drew Morgan for instance). I think he's trying his hardest with what he has to work with, especially when it comes to this year's patchwork oline.
The only thing negative I can say about him is that he does get tunnel vision in short yardage and goal line situations from time to time; like he just wants to prove his team can overpower the other, even if it takes 4+ tries. It can also be twisted to point out that he really believes in his players pushing that extra little bit for him.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 7:17 pm to russellvillehog
I came in here to say no shite sherlock. An offensive issue having to do with the offensive coordinator is pretty obvious to me.
Then the rest of the board chimed in and reminded how futile legitimate football discussion is on here.
Then the rest of the board chimed in and reminded how futile legitimate football discussion is on here.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 7:25 pm to russellvillehog
We've had a horrible red zone offense since 2012, so it's not all Enos. It's probably been a mixture of o-line, inconsistent QB play, and panicked playcalling. The Toledo game was definitely the o-line and BA not getting it done.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:27 pm to VagueMessage
We were one of the top zone offenses in the country last year by the end of the season.
The obvious difference was a markedly better offensive line, especially in pass protection.
Austin Allen was planted in the ground more times in the first half of the Auburn game than Brandon was all last season.
The obvious difference was a markedly better offensive line, especially in pass protection.
Austin Allen was planted in the ground more times in the first half of the Auburn game than Brandon was all last season.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:52 pm to Feral
We had the best red zone offense in SEC games only last year when it came to scoring TDs with 76% of our trips resulting in TDs.
We've slipped this year to 10th in SEC games at 51%.
We've slipped this year to 10th in SEC games at 51%.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:58 pm to TheCheshireHog
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We've slipped this year to 10th in SEC games at 51%.
I'm legitimately surprised we were 10th in the conference. I figured we'd have been lower.
This post was edited on 11/28/16 at 9:07 pm
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