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Posted on 1/14/15 at 10:40 am to ElDawgHawg
Posted on 1/14/15 at 10:40 am to ElDawgHawg
I agree...the hire won't be a big name and most Arky boards will melt.
Based on everything I've seen from CBB he will make a great hire
Based on everything I've seen from CBB he will make a great hire
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Posted on 1/14/15 at 10:54 am to sugatowng
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I agree...the hire won't be a big name and most Arky boards will melt.
Based on everything I've seen from CBB he will make a great hire
Personally I wouldn't mind moving Lunney up to TE/OC & bringing in a dedicated QB coach.
This post was edited on 1/14/15 at 10:55 am
Posted on 1/14/15 at 11:26 am to 870Hog
I will once again, because it has become my bit, throw out the "not a dark horse, but a pitch black horse" candidate in former NDSU and current Wyoming OC Brent Vigens.
Now he had a rough year at Wyoming this season, but its Wyoming. It is that rare case of going from the FCS level to the FBS level and having a severe drop off in talent. At NDSU his teams featured strong rushing teams that had an efficient passing attack and were deadly in the red zone. His style of play calling would fit in perfectly for what we want to do.
Why he won't get the job is his lack of experience in recruiting the South. Ohio State proved there is some talent up North, but our bread and butter is recruiting the South and Texas and he doesn't have the connections to do that.
Kevin Kelley might make a good addition to the coaching staff... but I'm not sure he is ready to be the OC just yet. For one thing his hyper aggressive never punt style is unlikely to get implemented in a conference like the SEC where teams can stomp a mudhole in you bad if you make mistakes.
Weinke would be a fine addition to our staff handling QBs.
I'm cautiously optimistic about any change in OC at this point in time. Hell, hire Georgia Southern's OC and install the triple option for all I care. At the moment I am basking in the no more reverses inside the ten yard line glow.
Now he had a rough year at Wyoming this season, but its Wyoming. It is that rare case of going from the FCS level to the FBS level and having a severe drop off in talent. At NDSU his teams featured strong rushing teams that had an efficient passing attack and were deadly in the red zone. His style of play calling would fit in perfectly for what we want to do.
Why he won't get the job is his lack of experience in recruiting the South. Ohio State proved there is some talent up North, but our bread and butter is recruiting the South and Texas and he doesn't have the connections to do that.
Kevin Kelley might make a good addition to the coaching staff... but I'm not sure he is ready to be the OC just yet. For one thing his hyper aggressive never punt style is unlikely to get implemented in a conference like the SEC where teams can stomp a mudhole in you bad if you make mistakes.
Weinke would be a fine addition to our staff handling QBs.
I'm cautiously optimistic about any change in OC at this point in time. Hell, hire Georgia Southern's OC and install the triple option for all I care. At the moment I am basking in the no more reverses inside the ten yard line glow.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 11:50 am to Razorback Reverend
One of the comments to Coach B's statements.
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Bad Photoshop Hog ?@BadPhotoshopHog 16h16 hours ago
@BretBielema Tell Darius not to create an account on Hogville. He might get banned for taking up for you and Brandon Allen.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 12:19 pm to LOCO5150
Hogville is such an abortion of a message board.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 12:22 pm to 870Hog
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Personally I wouldn't mind moving Lunney up to TE/OC & bringing in a dedicated QB coach.
It could work but I would personally melt down a bit. I'm not expecting a huge name or anything but Lunney? I would rather shoot a little higher first.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 3:32 pm to DC RaiseHerBack
Jim Harris ?@jimharris360 · 4h4 hours ago
On the coaching front: Word I hear is Bret Bielema has interviewed former OC and WR coach Jay Norvell this week.
On the coaching front: Word I hear is Bret Bielema has interviewed former OC and WR coach Jay Norvell this week.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 3:56 pm to Razorback Reverend
I could dig it if we can get rid of Michael Smith. Norvell for OC/WR (or maybe co-OC?) and a dedicated QB coach.
If that doesn't get KJ Hill on board then nothing will.
If that doesn't get KJ Hill on board then nothing will.
This post was edited on 1/14/15 at 3:59 pm
Posted on 1/14/15 at 4:01 pm to The_Joker
Norvell - OC/WR
Weinke - QB
Thomas - RB
Lunney - TE
Pittman - OL
I could actually get behind this one.
Weinke - QB
Thomas - RB
Lunney - TE
Pittman - OL
I could actually get behind this one.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 4:02 pm to TheCheshireHog
Do we actually have a shot with Weinke or is that all just speculation? He seems pretty entrenched with IMG
Posted on 1/14/15 at 4:14 pm to The_Joker
Most likely just speculation.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 4:14 pm to TheCheshireHog
looks like Smith has no place to go so we might be stuck with him another year
make or break year for Thomas next season
make or break year for Thomas next season
Posted on 1/14/15 at 4:22 pm to RazorHawg
Rick Shaeffer on Drive Time just said Joel Thomas signed an extension so now Smith is only one that could be heading out.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 4:37 pm to spehog
So what's the reason for people not loving Joel Thomas? Is it just a lack of landing recruits? Our running backs are doing a good job and would have been even more productive than they were if Chaney hadn't gone Paul Tardtrino in close games.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 4:39 pm to spehog
Posted on 1/14/15 at 4:45 pm to Hog on the Hill
Thomas has coached our RBs just fine but he's done jack shite on the recruiting trail. I like Rawleigh but he is NOT the best we should have been able to get this year.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 5:13 pm to The_Joker
Thomas was very good at Washington and he's been solid here, anyone that hates on him is just pretty dumb, all there is to it.
People put way too much into recruiting without looking at the variables. How many stud RB's last year or year before wanted to come to a place knowing JWill is the starter and AC3 was the #2 and no one was beating them out for at least 2 years. That's a tough sell along with every other factor.
This class/next class we need to pull in a stud, still very interested to see what Juan Day can offer this spring and into next year as the 3 back replacing Marshall.
People put way too much into recruiting without looking at the variables. How many stud RB's last year or year before wanted to come to a place knowing JWill is the starter and AC3 was the #2 and no one was beating them out for at least 2 years. That's a tough sell along with every other factor.
This class/next class we need to pull in a stud, still very interested to see what Juan Day can offer this spring and into next year as the 3 back replacing Marshall.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 5:25 pm to UltimateHog
Well if we lose Robb Smith then we start all over again. I think, and I pray, we can replace Chaney and have an upgrade for our system of football. Losing Robb Smith would move us from a team that probably won't win the West but will have a lot to say about who does to a team that hopes they get a bowl game.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 5:27 pm to UltimateHog
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People put way too much into recruiting without looking at the variables. How many stud RB's last year or year before wanted to come to a place knowing JWill is the starter and AC3 was the #2 and no one was beating them out for at least 2 years. That's a tough sell along with every other factor.
That's a cop out. There are numerous places that have no trouble pulling a stud RB every year despite loaded backfields. Bielema at Wisconsin even. Thomas has been the weakest recruiter on staff.
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