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Posted on 11/2/14 at 8:08 am to DrBeeper
Posted on 11/2/14 at 8:08 am to DrBeeper
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Doug Nussmeir
Agreed - I threw Nussmeier's name out a few weeks ago when we had this similar conversation.
He made Bama's offense more wide open after McElwain left, and he fits the type of offense Bert wants to run.
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Posted on 11/2/14 at 8:10 am to Feral
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That pick by Ellis should have been 6
You keep saying this. Why do you think that should have been a pick 6?
Posted on 11/2/14 at 8:16 am to Stonehog
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quote: That pick by Ellis should have been 6 You keep saying this. Why do you think that should have been a pick 6?
The resulting drive, not the pick itself.
ETA - anyone else who isn't hobbled takes that to the house, though.
This post was edited on 11/2/14 at 8:17 am
Posted on 11/2/14 at 8:23 am to Feral
You said this last night:
Are you backtracking on that now?
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Heck, even Ellis' interception should have been a pick 6 and he got run down at the 40
Are you backtracking on that now?
Posted on 11/2/14 at 8:31 am to Stonehog
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Are you backtracking on that now?
You can't read for shite
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Heck, even Ellis' interception should have been a pick 6 and he got run down at the 40, but I'll overlook that one because of his injury.
Posted on 11/2/14 at 8:45 am to CtotheVrzrbck
Changing OC's won't fix the shite that BA is.
Posted on 11/2/14 at 8:49 am to ArHog
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Changing OC's won't fix the shite that BA is.
It can mask his deficiencies in areas by calling plays he is able to execute.
So many QBs have looked "great" in college but proven to not be good enough to make an NFL roster due to the college system they played in masking their inability to play the position well.
Too many to list, several from this league.
Posted on 11/2/14 at 8:53 am to Feral
You're showing your overall ignorance of football itself if you really think that. Ellis is a middle linebacker. They aren't really known for their speed. 
Posted on 11/2/14 at 9:08 am to Stonehog
If he gets a block on their we, he might take it for 6. Can't really blame Ellis for that though.
Posted on 11/2/14 at 9:39 am to Stonehog
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Ellis is a middle linebacker. They aren't really known for their speed.
What does a middle line backer get though when he gets an interception?
a.) A sudden urge to slide to the ground to avoid any harm and make sure to not turn the ball over.
b.) A sudden urge to start celebrating and doing a touchdown dance as if he just won the game.
c.) A jolt of adrenaline so big that it could probably bring Elvis back to life.
I know he was injured, but I think Feral's point has legs. And of course, a block would have helped.
Posted on 11/2/14 at 9:46 am to LOCO5150
Ellis not scoring on that play is not what lost the game.
The philosophy of the HC is simple, blunt, and not a secret. Shorten the game, limit the possessions, play fundamentally sound mistake/penalty free ball.
The OC should know going in and damn sure should have figured it out by now that the team isn't going to be one to play from behind or outscore the opponents in a shootout for a win.
The fact Arkansas had a 10-0 lead and failed to put any additional points on the board there after is what lost the game.
The philosophy of the HC is simple, blunt, and not a secret. Shorten the game, limit the possessions, play fundamentally sound mistake/penalty free ball.
The OC should know going in and damn sure should have figured it out by now that the team isn't going to be one to play from behind or outscore the opponents in a shootout for a win.
The fact Arkansas had a 10-0 lead and failed to put any additional points on the board there after is what lost the game.
Posted on 11/2/14 at 9:56 am to DaleDenton
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The fact Arkansas had a 10-0 lead and failed to put any additional points
Exactly
Posted on 11/2/14 at 9:56 am to DaleDenton
I haven't said anything about what lost the game, and I agree with what you are saying.
I was merely saying Feral had a point.
I'm baffled that everyone can see what the problem is, but Bert can't.
I've said this before, and I believe it's the truth. Bert is a very respectful man, and he sticks with guys, but sometimes way too long. First it was Derby. Now it's BA, and I would put Chaney in that class as well. He believes in people, and wants to give them every opportunity to succeed, but there comes a point where you have to have a little tough love.
I was merely saying Feral had a point.
I'm baffled that everyone can see what the problem is, but Bert can't.
I've said this before, and I believe it's the truth. Bert is a very respectful man, and he sticks with guys, but sometimes way too long. First it was Derby. Now it's BA, and I would put Chaney in that class as well. He believes in people, and wants to give them every opportunity to succeed, but there comes a point where you have to have a little tough love.
Posted on 11/2/14 at 10:00 am to LOCO5150
I would say the direct opposite of Bielema when it comes to coaches. He was not afraid to fire folks at Wisconsin that weren't getting it done and he pushed Ash out the door last year. If he feels Chaney isn't up to par in four weeks then I fully expect Bielema to let him go.
Posted on 11/2/14 at 10:01 am to LOCO5150
Lesser of two evils.
Bert was not going to replace both his coordinators after his first season here.
Ash kept us from being in games at the end, Robb Smith is doing that.
Chaney is proving he can't win games, the next OC will get his shot to do that.
Chaney's offense has scored 140+ first quarter points in his time here.
His offense has scored 21 points in the 4th quarter in 13 games.
All that shows is he can geek it up in the film room and take advantage of what the film shows him, when the opposing team mixes it up, he stays the course and the offense peters out then games are lost.
Bert was not going to replace both his coordinators after his first season here.
Ash kept us from being in games at the end, Robb Smith is doing that.
Chaney is proving he can't win games, the next OC will get his shot to do that.
Chaney's offense has scored 140+ first quarter points in his time here.
His offense has scored 21 points in the 4th quarter in 13 games.
All that shows is he can geek it up in the film room and take advantage of what the film shows him, when the opposing team mixes it up, he stays the course and the offense peters out then games are lost.
Posted on 11/2/14 at 10:03 am to TheCheshireHog
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I would say the direct opposite of Bielema when it comes to coaches. He was not afraid to fire folks at Wisconsin that weren't getting it done and he pushed Ash out the door last year. If he feels Chaney isn't up to par in four weeks then I fully expect Bielema to let him go.
He fired Markusen, who many hog fans thought was an excellent O line coach, and replaced him with a GA after two games.
It is different to fire a position coach and replace them versus a Coordinator in season.
Posted on 11/2/14 at 10:18 am to DaleDenton
If I had to make a guess I would imagine that Bert thought that BA would develop more as a passer coming into this season and that it would open up the offensive scheme. While BA is better then he was last year he still isn't SEC level and he probably never will be.
It doesn't help that Chaney is a bit too in love with trick plays that blow up in our faces. Trick plays work because the other team really isn't expecting them. We've thrown so many out this season teams are ready for them, heck they are counting on one or two a quarter to help stall us on a drive.
We need an OC that has a steady hand on the tiller and who develops QBs, even marginal ones, with more success.
It doesn't help that Chaney is a bit too in love with trick plays that blow up in our faces. Trick plays work because the other team really isn't expecting them. We've thrown so many out this season teams are ready for them, heck they are counting on one or two a quarter to help stall us on a drive.
We need an OC that has a steady hand on the tiller and who develops QBs, even marginal ones, with more success.
Posted on 11/2/14 at 10:24 am to Arksulli
Allen is at or near every "if he could" that was said pre-season that would help this team to success.
He is like 2nd in the SEC in redzone efficiency behind Mason at UGA, he is passing near 60% his TD/INT ratio has improved, he would look better if the plays were ran with more slants and crossing routes in the middle of the field where the one area Arkansas has an advantage being size and skill of Henry and Derby could be utilized instead of throwing to the sidelines to a shorter Hatcher.
Efficiency in the redzone doesn't matter if you can't get to the redzone or if you decide toss sweeps are better than dive plays that scored from the same down and distances earlier in the game against a fresher defense.
He is like 2nd in the SEC in redzone efficiency behind Mason at UGA, he is passing near 60% his TD/INT ratio has improved, he would look better if the plays were ran with more slants and crossing routes in the middle of the field where the one area Arkansas has an advantage being size and skill of Henry and Derby could be utilized instead of throwing to the sidelines to a shorter Hatcher.
Efficiency in the redzone doesn't matter if you can't get to the redzone or if you decide toss sweeps are better than dive plays that scored from the same down and distances earlier in the game against a fresher defense.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 1:41 pm to DaleDenton
Hell most of us would've called that rub play that's been winning games across the country or spiked it to put our 6'6" WR in and gave him a fade route.
If BA would've overthrown like he does most of the time Only Wilson would've had a play on the ball and might have drew a PI flag. Giving us a first and goal from the one with a time out and enough time to run it twice or to run, call TO throw the fade and run one more time and have their D loosened up for the 2pt conversion to win.
We did none of that. Just rushed a bad play with the wrong personnel and a fairy QB.
If BA would've overthrown like he does most of the time Only Wilson would've had a play on the ball and might have drew a PI flag. Giving us a first and goal from the one with a time out and enough time to run it twice or to run, call TO throw the fade and run one more time and have their D loosened up for the 2pt conversion to win.
We did none of that. Just rushed a bad play with the wrong personnel and a fairy QB.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 2:28 pm to Arksulli
Ole Houston Dale would be better than Chaney right now. That dude sucked at Tenn & sucks here. Hes just a loser, period. He finds ways to lose the game, consistently. Frick Chaney
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