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re: Kentucky has won as many SEC games in the last 8 calendar days

Posted on 10/6/14 at 11:36 am to
Posted by Feral
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Posted on 10/6/14 at 11:36 am to
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An assistant coach doesn't dictate the future of an entire program.


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Never said it did.


Uh, yeah you did...

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quote:Worried about the current OC =/= worried about the future of the program


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In what universe are those two things not linked?


You really don't know shite about football, do you? By the way, for a guy talking shite about Henson in his own gripe thread after the A&M game, you sure were defending him prior:

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Our kicker has been a glaring weakness on both kickoffs and field goals so far.



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Field goals? I don't buy it. He's missed 1 field goal from >40 yards. Let's give the guy a few more opportunities before we start claiming he's a weakness.


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I'm not saying Henson is great or anything. But to say he's shaky when he's hit 2/3 is just premature at this point, IMO. He definitely wasnt' going to be perfect on the season. Who is? I'm not going to let one miss make me question him.
This post was edited on 10/6/14 at 11:42 am
Posted by ocelot4ark
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 10/6/14 at 2:43 pm to
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quote:Worried about the current OC =/= worried about the future of the program


How can you be this fricking stupid? I literally just explained to you that, in my opinion, wins/losses are an element of the future of our program. And wins/losses are impacted by play calling.

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You really don't know shite about football, do you?


Since you know SOOOO MUCH, perhaps you can take 10 seconds to explain why I'm wrong before trying to take the conversation away from your ridiculous argument that play calling has no bearing on the future of the program.

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By the way, for a guy talking shite about Henson in his own gripe thread after the A&M game, you sure were defending him prior:


Now I'm fricking convinced that you don't read. Did you miss this part, that you actually quoted?

Let's give the guy a few more opportunities before we start claiming he's a weakness.

That doesn't mean that I think he was going to be a good kicker. That doesn't mean I think he was going to be a bad kicker. That means we haven't had enough of a sample to say if he's a good kicker. That has absolutely no bearing on my opinion and how it changes AS HE GETS MORE OPPORTUNITIES.

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I'm not going to let one miss make me question him.


And now we know a little bit more about him than we did before, do we not?
Posted by ocelot4ark
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 10/6/14 at 2:44 pm to
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You are such a fricking douche.



Don't you have some more of that, "not being a man of my word, being a pussy" stuff to do?
Posted by BillyBobPorkin
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Member since May 2014
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Posted on 10/6/14 at 3:22 pm to
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You really don't know shite about football,


Nope, he doesn't.
Posted by BillyBobPorkin
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Posted on 10/6/14 at 3:23 pm to
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Stonehog


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You are such a fricking douche


douche calling another a douche, funny.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 10/6/14 at 3:24 pm to
Hey Pigfeet!
Posted by ocelot4ark
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 10/6/14 at 3:24 pm to
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Nope, he doesn't.



Then it would be very easy for any one of you 3 to take 10 seconds to explain it.

Telling how none of you seem up to the task.

Offensive playcalling impacts the future of the program. True or false. Go.
Posted by BillyBobPorkin
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Member since May 2014
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Posted on 10/6/14 at 3:47 pm to
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Then it would be very easy for any one of you 3 to take 10 seconds to explain it.


This showed me everything I needed to know about your thoughts regarding this team.

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Posted by ocelot4ark
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2009
12458 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 3:53 pm to
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This showed me everything I needed to know about your thoughts regarding this team.



So you're bringing up things that aren't germane to the actual conversation at hand to justify your blanket statement? Well good thing those comments are preserved so you can address them. Keep in mind, football literacy has nothing to do with being civil or polite. I can know football back and forth, call your mom a whore, your dad a pirate, Bert a pedophile, and Chaney a womanizer. Nothing would change the actual football observations. So with that in mind...

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Thanks for losing the game frick faces.



Obvious emotion outburst. Apologies. However, do you disagree that Dan and Jim both played large roles in us losing the game?

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And nice kick, Henson.



This was sarcasm. i didn't really think it was a nice kick. Perhaps you did? Or perhaps you missed the sarcasm? It seems like you disagree so I'll assume you missed the sarcasm.

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Say what you will about Bert, but that was Houston Nutt playing not to lose reincarnate.



You had to have sat through numerous 2nd half meltdowns for this one to make much sense. Essentially, we'd be aggressive early in games and establish a lead. Then we'd try to milk the clock and/or go totally illogical on offense and blow the lead. That seemed familiar to the Nutt days to me.

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frick this pussy staff.



Another outburst. Sorry. If I could go back in time, I'd probably say, "frick your stupid playcalling throughout different drives, Jim. You can do better than that (hopefully). Dan - you're a great player, but pull your head out of your arse and put the team ahead of your bravado. You can do better than that."
Posted by BillyBobPorkin
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Posted on 10/6/14 at 3:56 pm to
I disagree
Posted by ocelot4ark
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2009
12458 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 3:58 pm to
Good. It's funny how these threads tend to trickle away and die once I ask for point-by-point explanations of why I'm so terrible.
This post was edited on 10/6/14 at 3:59 pm
Posted by BillyBobPorkin
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Posted on 10/6/14 at 3:59 pm to
So be it
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 10/6/14 at 4:15 pm to
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Good. It's funny how these threads tend to trickle away and die once I ask for point-by-point explanations of why I'm so terrible.


You already cooked your own goose in this thread by backtracking on your future of the program comment.
Posted by ocelot4ark
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2009
12458 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 4:20 pm to
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You already cooked your own goose in this thread by backtracking on your future of the program comment.



Link?

You guys not knowing how to read, or assuming every comment is an encompassing interpretation of the entire program =/= backtracking. My statement has been 100% consistent every since someone got their panties in a twist.

Let's look for the backtracking, class:

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I think it's entirely possible to acknowledge all of those things but still be slightly worried about the future of the program.

To me, it's 100% boiling down to my opinion of Jim Chaney's abilities as a play caller. Still not close to being sold on Jim.


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In what universe are those two things not linked? The OC has a direct impact on our wins/losses. Ignoring the obvious link between good play calls and winning, we've also been operating under the assumption that we'll recruit better once recruits notice we're not shitty any more. Having a weak OC is absolutely a factor. I'm willing to give the man the rest of the year, but so far I'm convinced we can do better.


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And none of that changes the fact that I'd have MORE confidence in the future of the program if our OC didn't go full retard a few times a game.



skipping a lot of short replies...

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Maybe you can go back and read what I've actually posted instead of making an arse out of yourself. ONCE AGAIN, I never said the future of our program was dependent on a coordinator. Jesus Christ, man. READ.


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I. WOULD. BE. MORE. CONFIDENT. IN. THE. FUTURE. OF. OUR. PROGRAM. IF. OUR. OC. DIDN'T. CALL. A. FEW. STUPID. PLAYS. EVERY. GAME.
Future of the program: Anything that can be construed as positive or negative that impacts or is impacted by the program at any point beyond this second. Wins & losses? That's covered by the future of the program. Play calls? Covered by the future of the program.

Program = all-encompassing phrase mean to capture recruiting, wins, losses, coaching, S&C, APR, attendance, fundraising, etc.



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How can you be this fricking stupid? I literally just explained to you that, in my opinion, wins/losses are an element of the future of our program. And wins/losses are impacted by play calling.


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Since you know SOOOO MUCH, perhaps you can take 10 seconds to explain why I'm wrong before trying to take the conversation away from your ridiculous argument that play calling has no bearing on the future of the program.



And then irrelevance.

So, please, show the backtracking.
This post was edited on 10/6/14 at 4:24 pm
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 10/6/14 at 4:23 pm to
You said you were worried about the future of the program and it's 100% about Chaney's play calling. When you got called on it, you floundered and said "future of the program" could mean the Alabama game on Saturday.

It's all on page 2 and 3 of this thread.
Posted by ocelot4ark
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2009
12458 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 4:31 pm to
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You said you were worried about the future of the program and it's 100% about Chaney's play calling.



I did no such thing. I said I was SLIGHTLY worried about the future, and it's entirely because of Chaney's play calling.

That means of all of the things I could be worried about, the only one I pointed out SLIGHTLY (I can get the link if you can't find page 2) was Jim's play calling.

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When you got called on it, you floundered and said "future of the program" could mean the Alabama game on Saturday.


I didn't flounder. I explained that the future of the program encompasses more than just perceived improvement in one area.

But if you want to be just as stupid as him, and make the conclusion that play calling has no bearing on the future of the program...Well, you're just as fricking stupid as the other guy.

For instance, if Paul Petrino was still our OC, how confident would you be that he'd call a complete game this saturday (which, by the very definition of the word, resides in the FUTURE)?

Anyone remember some old adage? "Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it?" I'm simply drawing a conclusion based on exhibited patterns. Based on his pattern (acknowledged by most people who don't have the friends/family in the program it seems), it seems perfectly reasonable to question how complete of a game he will call.

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It's all on page 2 and 3 of this thread.



Maybe you should read them.

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floundered


It's not lost on me that you of all people have the audacity to claim anyone else backtracks or flounders on anything...welsher.
This post was edited on 10/6/14 at 4:34 pm
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25195 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 4:57 pm to
Jesus Christ people. We didn't even play a game last weekend and you folks are all in vapors. Look Chaney, when he panics, sucks the meat missile. We play in a conference that specializes in cannibalizing itself. The second coming of Matt Jones/Joe Ferguson has not revealed his splendor to our eyes yet. Yet we still have a decent shot of making a bowl game.

Stop crapping your britches and throwing poo at each other. Frick, our losses are to Auburn and Texas A&M... not the Missouri School for the Blind. Getting into hissy fits among ourselves is something I'd expect from LSU fans, not us. Go forth, get drunk/laid.
Posted by CauleyHog
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Nov 2012
4618 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 4:58 pm to
AMEN
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37299 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 5:09 pm to
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We didn't even play a game last weekend and you folks are all in vapors.




after reading this and that other thread i've determined this little anger/fighting thing is all foreplay. so my response basically is simply frick you all.
Posted by Razorback Reverend
Member since Dec 2013
22781 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 5:43 pm to
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Arksulli


could I interest you in a guest speaking engagement at the pulpit on Sunday morning?
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