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re: Kentucky has won as many SEC games in the last 8 calendar days
Posted on 10/5/14 at 1:10 pm to I Ham That I Ham
Posted on 10/5/14 at 1:10 pm to I Ham That I Ham
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our results have been the same as last year (still winless)
You see a half empty glass I guess
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Posted on 10/5/14 at 1:23 pm to Cheese Grits
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You see a half empty glass I guess
He drinks until the bottle is empty.
He hides liquor around the house.
Posted on 10/5/14 at 1:32 pm to DaleDenton
This is starting to get pathetic.
Posted on 10/5/14 at 2:39 pm to DaleDenton
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He hides liquor around the house.
Why hide it? Easier to find when it is out in the open.
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He drinks until the bottle is empty.
I drink according to the situation and the quality of the booze in question.
Posted on 10/5/14 at 3:08 pm to DaleDenton
Glad to see you made bail.
Posted on 10/5/14 at 5:50 pm to I Ham That I Ham
And they beat the two worst teams in the league.
Posted on 10/5/14 at 5:54 pm to I Ham That I Ham
quote:Your opinion but as a wise man once stated "Never go full retard".
As far as I'm concerned BB has accomplished about as much here as Kingsbury at Tech.
Posted on 10/5/14 at 7:54 pm to Killean
quote:Eeeeehhhhh...
shite, if we were in the East we'd be playing in the SEC Championship game this season.
Posted on 10/5/14 at 8:15 pm to Woopigsooie20
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And they beat the two worst teams in the league.
I don't think the record books make a note for "*W (but only against worst teams in the league)"
Posted on 10/5/14 at 8:19 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
I will put it this way. Are we a better team then we were last year? Have we played a tough OOC schedule other then the one rent a win? Did we play Auburn close for a half and then nearly beat Texas A&M?
Finally, are we where we want to be?
No, for the last, yes, for the rest. When you are in deep, deep, hole the first thing you do is stop digging. I think we have stopped digging.
Now it is the long, and given our conference, extremely hard, climb back to sunlight. It will take some time, like all things do.
Or we can shite the bed, fire Bert at the end of the season, completely rebuild the team yet again and give our next coach the luxury of knowing he has two seasons to win big.
Finally, are we where we want to be?
No, for the last, yes, for the rest. When you are in deep, deep, hole the first thing you do is stop digging. I think we have stopped digging.
Now it is the long, and given our conference, extremely hard, climb back to sunlight. It will take some time, like all things do.
Or we can shite the bed, fire Bert at the end of the season, completely rebuild the team yet again and give our next coach the luxury of knowing he has two seasons to win big.
Posted on 10/5/14 at 8:30 pm to Arksulli
Honestly, anyone who looks at this roster, our last two recruiting classes and the one coming in, and how competitive we've been in every game this season and doesn't think Bert and Co. have done a mindblowing job rebuilding this program in just 18 months from the dumpster fire it was... then I don't know what to tell you other than to stop taking other fan bases' tripe on tRant as the gospel.
Posted on 10/5/14 at 9:41 pm to Arksulli
quote:I never said you didn't. In fact I'm on record as saying you guys are on the rise so I'm not sure where you're going with this or what it has to do with you guys being guaranteed to win the East this year.
I will put it this way. Are we a better team then we were last year? Have we played a tough OOC schedule other then the one rent a win? Did we play Auburn close for a half and then nearly beat Texas A&M?
Posted on 10/6/14 at 8:09 am to Feral
I think it's entirely possible to acknowledge all of those things but still be slightly worried about the future of the program.
To me, it's 100% boiling down to my opinion of Jim Chaney's abilities as a play caller. Still not close to being sold on Jim.
To me, it's 100% boiling down to my opinion of Jim Chaney's abilities as a play caller. Still not close to being sold on Jim.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 8:27 am to ocelot4ark
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I think it's entirely possible to acknowledge all of those things but still be slightly worried about the future of the program.
To me, it's 100% boiling down to my opinion of Jim Chaney's abilities as a play caller. Still not close to being sold on Jim.
Worried about the current OC =/= worried about the future of the program. Our recruiting is better than it's been in nearly 30 years, our strength and conditioning program is finally at an SEC level, we're playing with SEC physicality, and we're building depth. If Bert doesn't pan out here, he's still leaving the program in *much* better shape than he found it, and our next coach will have a great foundation upon which he can build.
Just look at Wisconsin -- they won 9 games last year and should have won 11. They may very well win 10 this year.
This post was edited on 10/6/14 at 8:32 am
Posted on 10/6/14 at 8:42 am to Feral
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Worried about the current OC =/= worried about the future of the program.
In what universe are those two things not linked? The OC has a direct impact on our wins/losses. Ignoring the obvious link between good play calls and winning, we've also been operating under the assumption that we'll recruit better once recruits notice we're not shitty any more. Having a weak OC is absolutely a factor. I'm willing to give the man the rest of the year, but so far I'm convinced we can do better.
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Our recruiting is better than it's been in nearly 30 years, our strength and conditioning program is finally at an SEC level, we're playing with SEC physicality, and we're building depth. If Bert doesn't pan out here, he's still leaving the program in *much* better shape than he found it, and our next coach will have a great foundation upon which he can build.
Just look at Wisconsin -- they won 9 games last year and should have won 11. They may very well win 10 this year.
And none of that changes the fact that I'd have MORE confidence in the future of the program if our OC didn't go full retard a few times a game.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:47 am to ocelot4ark
I think we are better then we have been, and getting better, but yeah, Chaney is a slasher movie OC. You just know something is going to leap out of the shadows and stab you through the heart.
Georgia should be a great game for us to see how far we have come. Other then the one loss to SCar they have looked pretty good so far. Yes, Tenn played them close but Tenn will play a lot of teams close this year. In the new "who can tell" SEC East I think they have a good shot of making the SEC Championship.
Georgia should be a great game for us to see how far we have come. Other then the one loss to SCar they have looked pretty good so far. Yes, Tenn played them close but Tenn will play a lot of teams close this year. In the new "who can tell" SEC East I think they have a good shot of making the SEC Championship.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 10:11 am to Arksulli
Georgia lost three DBs in one week, and their secondary already sucked. Allen may have a career day against them.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 10:27 am to ocelot4ark
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In what universe are those two things not linked? The OC has a direct impact on our wins/losses. Ignoring the obvious link between good play calls and winning, we've also been operating under the assumption that we'll recruit better once recruits notice we're not shitty any more. Having a weak OC is absolutely a factor. I'm willing to give the man the rest of the year, but so far I'm convinced we can do better.
What in the actual frick are you talking about? An assistant coach doesn't dictate the future of an entire program. You do realize that Chaney and Bielema aren't Siamese twins right? Bielema has shown he'll kick an assistant to the curb without hesitation. One win or one loss does not dictate the future, state or health of a football program.
An assistant doesn't control recruiting, the S&C program, roster management, player evaluation and academic and conduct standards. Coordinators can be replaced. Our program didn't go to hell when Bobby P was fired simply because Paul wasn't ready for prime time. If you really believe that the future of a program is dependent upon one coordinator, then you must think Kirby Smart, Jim McElwain and Doug Nussmeier are the greatest coaches ever.
Stop being such a myopic prisoner of the moment. tMelt from the A&M game should be over now. On to Alabama.
This post was edited on 10/6/14 at 10:28 am
Posted on 10/6/14 at 10:41 am to Feral
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What in the actual frick are you talking about?
Let me see if I can walk you through it. Step by step.
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An assistant coach doesn't dictate the future of an entire program.
Never said it did.
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You do realize that Chaney and Bielema aren't Siamese twins right?
Never said they were.
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Bielema has shown he'll kick an assistant to the curb without hesitation.
And this would happen, when? In the...future? And certainly not based on this small sample size. So in...the future...do you imagine he would fire Chaney if he had been doing his job? The question isn't about whether Bert will fire Jim if need be. The question is about how many shitty play calls we'll suffer through before Bert gets to that point. Play calls in...the future.
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One win or one loss does not dictate the future, state or health of a football program.
Stop putting words in my mouth, because I never said anything close to that.
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An assistant doesn't control recruiting, the S&C program, roster management, player evaluation and academic and conduct standards.
Never said they did.
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Coordinators can be replaced.
Never said they couldn't.
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Our program didn't go to hell when Bobby P was fired simply because Paul wasn't ready for prime time.
Could you reach a little more to try to make some point that counter-points a point I never made?
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If you really believe that the future of a program is dependent upon one coordinator, then you must think Kirby Smart, Jim McElwain and Doug Nussmeier are the greatest coaches ever.
Maybe you can go back and read what I've actually posted instead of making an arse out of yourself. ONCE AGAIN, I never said the future of our program was dependent on a coordinator. Jesus Christ, man. READ.
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Stop being such a myopic prisoner of the moment. tMelt from the A&M game should be over now. On to Alabama.
Stop being a moron that misconstrues literally every point being made about...the future of the program.
You know what's in the future? 60+ play calls against Alabama. And then games on top of games after that of 60+ play calls.
I'm going to say this very slowly this time, so you don't misconstrue the point again:
I.
WOULD.
BE.
MORE.
CONFIDENT.
IN.
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FUTURE.
OF.
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PROGRAM.
IF.
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OC.
DIDN'T.
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FEW.
STUPID.
PLAYS.
EVERY.
GAME.
Future of the program: Anything that can be construed as positive or negative that impacts or is impacted by the program at any point beyond this second. Wins & losses? That's covered by the future of the program. Play calls? Covered by the future of the program.
Program = all-encompassing phrase mean to capture recruiting, wins, losses, coaching, S&C, APR, attendance, fundraising, etc.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 10:54 am to ocelot4ark
You are such a fricking douche.
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