Glad to be watching LSU's coaching search from the stands

its a great job, but the precedence for replacing a coach with that kind of W-L record isn't the best.

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it's a great job, but the precedence for replacing a coach with that kind of W-L record isn't the best.

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Exactly, and that's not really a homer view as much as it's a realistic depiction of what usually happens in this circumstance. To top it all off, LSU sort of peed in their own drinking water by unceremoniously firing him midseason. That's sure to make more than a few coaches cringe.

Tennessee fired Fulmer for largely the same reasons, and got one year of Lane Kiffin followed by over a half decade of ineptitude from Derek Dooley and Butch Jones. They're just now beginning to dig back out of that hole.

Georgia fired Mark Richt and ended up with a coordinator. While also a great job - you don't have to play Alabama every year, either - they suffered in their search from the fact that coaching candidates aren't exactly lining up to coach at a place where winning 10 games a year isn't good enough.

Texas fired Mack Brown and ended up having to settle for Charlie Strong.

Florida had to hire Colorado State's coach. While he's worked out nicely, I'd highly doubt Jim McElwain was on any UF fan's wishlist.

South Carolina is a much better job than it was a decade ago and in a talent-rich state, but they had to settle for Will Muschamp for God's sake.

USCw is a fantastic job, but they hired Sark from UW when Kiffin was fired, and ended up just settling for making the interim coach permanent after Sark was canned midseason.

Florida State finally pushed Bowden out in favor of their OC.

Point being, there's only been two cases the last few years of a coaching hire meeting fan expectation and being a "home run" - Meyer to OSU and Harbaugh to Michigan.

I know Orgeron was awful at Ole Miss, but he went 6–2 at USC as interim before they hired the shitshow they have now. I still don't understand them hiring that guy, USC is better than that. He certainly was clearly not better than Orgeron at the very least.

Maybe O will actually turn this into a decent season for them.

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I know Orgeron was awful at Ole Miss, but he went 6–2 at USC as interim before they hired the shitshow they have now. I still don't understand them hiring that guy, USC is better than that. He certainly was clearly not better than Orgeron at the very least.

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The problem is that there's way more to being a collegiate head football coach than just coaching the games on Saturday, and it's why removing the interim tag is never really a good idea.

Being a head coach requires organization, management skill, ability to manage a roster, ability to reconcile depth chart need with recruiting targets, and ability to glad hand donors and kiss babies at the luncheon scene, and the ability to be a politician when you need or have to be, all of which are almost completely removed from the field. It's why a guy like Saban is one in a million -- he's a crazy obsessive compulsive perfectionist who knows football like no other, but he can turn the pscho off and woo recruits and play nice with donors like a politician.

All of this is why Broyles wasn't a fan of hiring coordinators for the head coaching job. So much on the job learning needs to happen for coordinators and non-head coaches who take that step. Bear Bryant was probably the only other coach who part football savant, part CEO, part politician. Broyles was great at it as well but didn't have near the success of Bryant.

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All excellent points.

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Do you think Herman is really going to stay at Houston for a decade and only leave for the NFL?

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Why not? It would be different if we were still in the times of teams like undefeated Boise State, TCU, Houston, Hawaii, etc. were getting left out of the national title talk, but now we live in a world with a college football playoff and an undefeated Houston is ranked #6 in week 4. Why leave a place where conference titles are free as hell and you still get nationally recognized?

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Houston is a great example. Why in the hell would he leave what he's building there to go to a place like LSU or Auburn?

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I think LSU is kidding themselves if they think they are going to pull Herman from UH. Not because he won't leave. It's because Herman is going to have several big time opportunities to coach other programs. USC may be looking, ND may be looking, Texas may be looking, etc...

LSU is going to have to beat out a lot of other schools with big money and they don't have to face the SEC West gauntlet.

Besides the idiocy of getting rid of Miles after only 4 games AFTER bringing him back after last season.... any school with a desirable coach now has 3+ months to renegotiate, extend, give pay raise, etc..etc.. to their own coach to block LSU. They have the luxury of having 3+ months to work out a deal. UH has time to maneuver now that LSU has stupidly confirmed what most thought would happen later. If Herman is open to leaving his agent will be fielding many offers including LSU.

Kind of funny seeing LSU posters say they will pay more than UH. Yep... that isn't the problem genius.

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Exactly, and that's not really a homer view as much as it's a realistic depiction of what usually happens in this circumstance. To top it all off, LSU sort of peed in their own drinking water by unceremoniously firing him midseason.

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I got down voted to death for suggesting that firing the winningest coach in program history, who had turned down his alma mater twice to stay there, four games into a season after the way he has represented LSU and after the fiasco at the end of last season would not look good to prospective coaches. They already would have gotten negative publicity if they had just fired him last year like they wanted to w/o the media circus they created, but their admin found a way to make the situation look 1,000X worse on them.