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Posted on 9/13/15 at 10:57 am to SmackoverHawg
Posted on 9/13/15 at 10:57 am to SmackoverHawg
Not to mention the fact that poor Casey had been under the tutelage of the QB killer himself...Houston dale nutts. Don't underestimate the frickery that man could impose on young, promising QB's not named Matt jones. Apparently marijuana and a don't give a shite attitude is the only anecdote.
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Posted on 9/13/15 at 11:17 am to piggilicious
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Both Casey and Brandon lived thru hell during their tenures with the hogs. I will always appreciate them for plugging away during the drama if nothing else.
Casey had a ton of off field drama to contend with which is why I don't hold some of his less than stellar performances on the field against him. BA hasn't had that kind of drama, imo & has had plenty of time to adjust & get his head in the game under pressure which he hasn't done. I just don't believe it's there for him mentally - not a shot at him; it's just a fact. I don't think ppl continuing to say he's doing the best he can helps the team or him. Sometimes people's best just isn't enough. That's life, and football.
Posted on 9/13/15 at 11:24 am to Arkla Missy
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I don't think ppl continuing to say he's doing the best he can helps the team or him. Sometimes people's best just isn't enough. That's life, and football.
I cuss BA like a dog, but I appreciate that he plays for us and I'm sure gives his best. I have no doubt he wants to be Tom Brady out there, but he is not. I should really watch what and how I say things about our players. I don't mean personal attacks against them. It just is what it is. Although it doesn't come across when I'm in a melt, my issue is with the coaches asking of him what he obviously cannot do. It is a recipe for losing. He can do what he can do and nothing more. Know this and quit putting it on him to win games. He cannot, has not, and will not. It's that fricking simple. It's not his fault. Being a "gamer" is just something you're born with. Some people focus and become a different player under pressure while some fall apart. He's the latter. That's why so many are saying "try someone else". You never know til they are under fire. BA is the best in practice. I'll bet we have SOMEONE, that is a baller and will bow up when it's crunch time. Problem is...there's only one way to find out.
Posted on 9/13/15 at 11:34 am to SmackoverHawg
Agreed. I hold zero animosity toward Brandon Allen, and my opinions of him or anyone else on the team or staff are not personal; they are from a "professional" so to speak, standpoint only. He's a kid trying to do something & be something he's just not. It's not his fault unless he's not trying, which I know is not the case. He is talented, but just does not play well under pressure; he does not have "it" mentally, and in this division, in this conference, there will always be enormous pressure. Bielema should know this.
Posted on 9/13/15 at 11:39 am to Arkla Missy
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Sometimes people's best just isn't enough. That's life, and football.
Oh I agree- if we have better, I'm all for playing them. I have so many questions after yesterday- if we don't have better then why don't we? I'm questioning the coaches, the players, everything right now.
Posted on 9/13/15 at 11:47 am to piggilicious
So am I girl. ... I just don't want anything near the Johnelle shitshow season which is what yesterday reminded me of. Most everyone just sucked, including coaches. I think the folks giving Gatorade put in the most effort. ... I will never understand many coaches' decisions about QBs. Dammit, if one has had plenty of time to develop leadership qualities & good decision making under pressure, but repeatedly does not perform up to par in games & when it counts, AT LEAST TRY ANOTHER!!! Hell, it can't hurt. And the couple of times I've seen A. Allen on the field, he's shown more confidence just running out there & on the line than BA. Damn, give him a shot.
Posted on 9/13/15 at 11:50 am to Arkla Missy
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I just don't want anything near the Johnelle shitshow season which is what yesterday reminded me of
It was so reminiscent of that!
Posted on 9/13/15 at 11:56 am to piggilicious
Yes, it was, unfortunately. 
Posted on 9/13/15 at 12:18 pm to Arkla Missy
The fact that Brandon's overall game has improved so much makes it easier to see that he does have something going on in his head at money time that is a major problem.
He's not able to play within himself at crunch time. Just too many close loses with zero successes that its now clearly in his head.
He's not able to play within himself at crunch time. Just too many close loses with zero successes that its now clearly in his head.
Posted on 9/13/15 at 12:26 pm to PygmalionEffect
Yep. And a lot of people projecting great things for this team were basing it off all the close loses we had last year. But w BA at QB and maybe BB as head coach, we have never and will never win a tight one. You can turn a steak into shite but you can't turn shite into a steak.
Posted on 9/13/15 at 12:38 pm to PygmalionEffect
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The fact that Brandon's overall game has improved so much makes it easier to see that he does have something going on in his head at money time that is a major problem.
He's not able to play within himself at crunch time. Just too many close loses with zero successes that its now clearly in his head.
Exactly. And that's the most difficult issue to try to "coach" in a QB. I don't think at this point that's going to change for BA unless HE does something about it. And maybe he just can't, Idk.
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Posted on 9/13/15 at 12:42 pm to piggilicious
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Both Casey and Brandon lived thru hell during their tenures with the hogs. I will always appreciate them for plugging away during the drama if nothing else.
Posted on 9/13/15 at 12:47 pm to PygmalionEffect
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The fact that Brandon's overall game has improved so much makes it easier to see that he does have something going on in his head at money time that is a major problem.
He took a major step forward last year, and although it's heresy, it may have had more to do with Chaney than we care to admit.
Say what you want about Chaney and his playcalling (and believe me, I have), but his formations were a thing of beauty, and our running game was *much* better under him than it has been under 2 games with Enos.
Who knows, maybe this game will light a fire under this staff and this team and we'll turn it around, but 83 passes in our first two games doesn't exactly make me think Enos has fulfilled his promise to bring balance to our offense.
Posted on 9/13/15 at 2:22 pm to Feral
BA looks much better throwing the ball than he did last year. His fundamentals are noticeably better and he has more confidence than he ever did last year. Go watch any game from last season and compare it with our 2 games this season and it's pretty easy to see. Making him the scapegoat is easy because it's all we've done the last 2 years. But the fact is that we lost yesterday in spite of his performance, not because of it. His production alone yesterday out gained Toledo by 100 yards. His pass to Henry was bad and he needs to make that play, and so was his interception in the end zone, but that situation should have never presented itself. At this point, QB play is about 10th on the list of things we need to worry about right now.
And to say he is the worst QB in decades us laughable. I'd take him over Zak Clark, Robert Johnson, both Dick brothers, and even the holy one Mitch Mustain. We've had some shite QBs over the years, we just got really spoiled with Mallett and Wilson recently.
And to say he is the worst QB in decades us laughable. I'd take him over Zak Clark, Robert Johnson, both Dick brothers, and even the holy one Mitch Mustain. We've had some shite QBs over the years, we just got really spoiled with Mallett and Wilson recently.
Posted on 9/13/15 at 7:36 pm to Hogssmellgood
Nah, I've been watching the Hogs for over 40 years. You can quote stats all day, but if a QB can't make the big plays, he's ineffective & Brandon Allen is one of the least effective I've ever seen for the Razorbacks, which is at least a top 3 problem. Yesterday's game proved that when although the entire team's performance was less than stellar, to say the least, Allen had chances to win it, although not in a pretty way, but could not pull it out ... AGAIN. ... I do not blame Allen at all. The sole responsibility lies with the head coach in either not recognizing that his starting QB doesn't have what it takes mentally to get the under pressure wins when he has the chances, or not having someone else ready to go who does.
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Posted on 9/13/15 at 7:42 pm to Arkla Missy
32 completions for 412 yards is not ineffective. 20 carries for 54 yards is. You have a pretty terrible definition of ineffective.
Posted on 9/13/15 at 10:48 pm to Hogssmellgood
Your "stats"are missing one very important category - Ws. Brandon Allen doesn't have many of those, although he's had several chances in his career with the Hogs to get them. Being able to follow through in clutch situations when the game depends on it for the win is being an effective quarterback. It's not that difficult of a concept to comprehend. It makes no difference if he throws for 500 yards or 5 as long as those 5 are the ones that count to get the win. ... Overthrowing your 6'5" receiver in a pressure situation to get the winning td is not effective, regardless of if he's thrown 412 yards or 4,012. In that situation, 32 completions for 412 yards when you have chances to win it & don't capitalize in the clutch at home against a MAC team is extremely ineffective. ... And this isn't the only instance. ... It doesn't take a Rhodes Scholar to know that every team we play is coming after Collins. Our QB has got to make plays when it counts; otherwise, it makes no difference how many yards or completions he has - ineffective.
This post was edited on 9/13/15 at 10:49 pm
Posted on 9/13/15 at 10:52 pm to Arkla Missy
Is this real?
Posted on 9/13/15 at 10:54 pm to sugatowng
No, yesterday didn't happen at all.
Posted on 9/13/15 at 10:55 pm to Arkla Missy
Well hell, somebody start the wave again...
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