re: Bikes Blues & a bunch of dumb whore trash people.

Most people I know in Fayetteville have a negative opinion of bikers. I didn't have that opinion until about the past four or five years.

Bikes Blues is a total shitshow for people who live here. Its not about traffic. Its not about it being "crowded". Its about the huge abundance of sorry assed 70s teens who saw Easy Rider and think its "killer" to play dress up and rev their pipes, drink and ride.

Bikers aren't respectful. Bikers aren't considerate. The fact that you're on a rolling muffler pipe and blast it at every opportunity proves this to me without me ever having to speak a word to you.

I hate bikers now, but only after having to be around a bunch of them.

You want to talk "wannabes"? Look at all the stupid fat trash playing leather dress up and pretending they are 21 on the Bikes Blues facebook page.

Economy cars, alternative rock, and bologna sandwiches

I like that local reggae band from Jose's recently

maybe they can bring in two million in tax revenue each year

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maybe they can bring in two million in tax revenue each year

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Source? And don't point the the UA "study" because like I said, it didn't look at actual increase/decrease in tax collections. It extrapolated "estimates" which were based on an initial "guess of attendance".

You'd also have to factor in the fact that Sturgis at this point is built to service their bike rally. That is its reason for existence.

In Fayetteville, you have a lot of people who would be spending money in the city leave town. I have no doubt that HMR taxes go up, because they tax restaurants, hotels, etc.

I doubt the increase in general sales taxes is as high as you imagine. A lot of people in town stay home (rather than shop or dine out) to avoid your wonderful biker pals, and many choose to leave town altogether. LOTS of the money spent is for souvenirs, which mostly goes to out of town carney type vendors. Factor in the tax money used for increased police force, etc.

Whatever the increase is, its not worth it to many of us. If you think its such an economic boon to the city, why does virtually every city that has/had a bike rally (apart from Sturgis) eventually run it out of town? How do they survive without all that incredible tax revenue?

I don't have any wonderful biker pals actually, but you forgot to factor in that the businesses who want it to stay - and you are out-voted by a large margin on that - generate tax revenue for Washington and Benton county all year long.

If Chuy's or even lame Appleby's are owned out of Arizona or Jersey or wherever, they still generate local revenue all year. Same with Marriots and Hiltons. Same with every other business that wants them here.

So if commerce wants them to stay, they will stay.

And those businesses contribute to your quality of life all year.

Personally, I'm not a fan of the outlaw biker lifestyle. It's pretty ridiculous. Through my various networks I happen to know too many bikers and I've always stayed respectful and at a comfortable distance. I've come to understand how things work in their world a little better and there's going to be bad seeds and dumbasses in any grouping of human beings.

The guys that take it a little too serious are dangerous, the guys that revel in being criminals and trash can become grease spots for all I care.

I do favor the event because it does give our area something that attracts people from across the country. I favor BBBQ over those fricks from KC that run Wakarusa. I really detest the management group up there, they're creeps and theives.

Both events do give us more entertainment options, the music aspect of the motorcycle rally has gone downhill sharply and much of that is due to the constraints that being in Fayetteville puts on an event. I think Drake Field could be utilized to contain everything and charge more for that part of the event.

Much like everything else in NWA it got too large too fast and no one could or would plan for the infrastructure needed to properly run a 70,000 pop city that swells to over 100K during the day.

We are a very popular spot for motorcycle enthusiasts, we should embrace them and be hospitable, and at the same time our guests should be more respectful of the tens of thousands of people that don't have a choice to attend or not because this is simply where they live and work and raise their families. Northwest Arkansas isn't a miner camp out in nowhereland where you can act a fool all you want. This event happens when a 26,000 student university is in session, when elementary, middle, and high schools are in session, and when businesses are conducting normal operations. You may have came here to party, but a-hole we all still have to go to work, and take our kids to school, and get them to fall ball, and after school activities. Don't be a prick just because you think you can this one weekend.

Maybe those bikers who invade Fayetteville are just really terrible people and contemptible scofflaws. I was in Hot Springs earlier today and it seemed as though that city was intact. I didn't notice anything burned to the ground anyway, nor did I hear any whinin', bitchin', or moanin'. So if anyone is headed that way you should be good to go.

steal the antique car shows from some other cities

Louisville for one is half ghetto and is ripe for having that event picked off

I'm no car enthusiast, but those shows are really cool. Great people too.

in other words, find an adequate financial replacement