re: 2016 Arkansas Recruiting Thread - Football & Basketball Commits

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I care that our coaches walked into today completely unprepared.

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as you stated the day's not over yet, nor is our time to sign people for this class. so why go chicken little this early?

I prefer to focus on the kids we have and the kids we could have in the future, not the kids we missed out on and the negatives of those misses. my point is the fact we missed on the kids we did today keeps getting brought up. I don't understand this since I've moved on and ready to look forward. others seem to enjoy dwelling on the past and beat that dead horse. to each their own

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In real life do you make everyone's head hurt with your same old shtick?

You should be a Bama fan. Seriously. You wouldn't have anything to bitch about and possibly add years onto your life. It would help others as well as they would obviously never hear from you.

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Ad hominem. You can't address my point, so you sling mud. Typical.

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I understand this, but the fact that we stunk it up today keeps getting brought up. Like some are on a mission to repeat it ad nauseum. I thought we could move past it, but I forgot everybody's grieving time is different. My apology's. I

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Maybe you should excuse yourself from the "2016 Arkansas Recruiting Thread" if you don't wish to discuss the 2016 Arkansas recruiting class.

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As a Razorback fan, we should be used to classes that aren't RANKED highly. We are NOT used to classes that are only 80% full.

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You understand the difference though, right? Look at how many classes in the past we just threw a bunch of fliers out on 2 stars and unrated guys just to "get to 25".

Shouldn't you be happy that the 20 we got are better than the 20 we would get in like 2005 or some other time in the past? If 1-20 are all higher quality than the 1-20 in the past, and we don't take fliers on a bunch of unknowns to "save face" and say we signed 25, I'm ok with that. They kept spots open for quality guys and those guys decided to play for their home schools. It happens.

Was Derrick Green the guy that was dead set on playing RB when he should've been a FB?

No I'm thinking of a recruit from a couple years ago that we were on and didn't get. Broderick Green was way too soft to be a FB

ETA: Maybe he went to Louisville? I don't know. I remember he was listed as the #1 FB on rivals but he didn't want to play there. Don't think it was Green.

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Look at how many classes in the past we just threw a bunch of fliers out on 2 stars and unrated guys just to "get to 25".

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I don't even know if I'd agree with that. IMO, Nutt had classes full of those type C, D recruits all along. He was lazy. He'd rather get the kid we were righting ULM for than work for someone LSU wanted.

I definitely agree that Nutt and Petrino both threw out desperation scholarships, but I don't recall there being an epidemic of that kind of thing. I think with Petrino it was maybe a couple of guys on NSD, and others in the weeks leading up to it. But we do that now.

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Shouldn't you be happy that the 20 we got are better than the 20 we would get in like 2005

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Absolutely, I'm happy that our 1st 20 recruits are better than our 1st 20 recruits 10 years ago. I'm simply saying that Bert wanted 25, per his lips. We did not get what he set out for. And it wasn't really all that close.

Is that the world ending? No. It's one aspect in his overall job performance which includes about a thousand things. So maybe we could just acknowledge a single reality without it having to represent the whole damn thing. It doesn't. It is one ingredient in the main dish.

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we don't take fliers on a bunch of unknowns to "save face" and say we signed 25, I'm ok with that.

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What if we just had legit backup plans? How can Florida string Putu along and make him wait for Fulton's decision (or some other scholarship to open up), but we can't get that same kind of traction. It seems like he had no backup plans for any of the pipe dream guys.

I'm totally fine with keeping those spots open, but we should be at a point now where we can find other kids that can contribute as backup plans. It shouldn't be, "I either get these 5 studs or nothing." If we only took studs, we'd have very light recruiting classes.

It just seems like a load of bullshite. First, we're just little old Arkansas and we'll never get the same quality of recruit as the teams actually competing for the SEC. I can come to terms with that. I CAN'T come to terms with our not being able to meet the coach's goal within a 20% margin. Not without at least discussing it. That's a huge miss.

The players we got look good. I just wish we had signed more depth. So does Bert. Clearly.

Green was a 5* back out of high school in Virginia LINK

It's amazing the difference between a 21-22 yr old and a 17-18 yr old. The 21 yr old knows it's his last shot, is not blinded by flashy objects and knows he has to go to a place where he can play and prepares him for the pros. The highly touted 18 yr old usually follows the glitz and $$ and rarely thinks about what's actually the best place, he gets so caught up in the whole process.

Like Charles Barkley tells kids when they ask for advice on where to commit..."Go where you can play....and go to get an education."