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Where Alabama ranks statistically after 3 weeks

Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:05 am
Posted by Huddie Leadbetter
Member since May 2016
3822 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:05 am
Statistics were either acquired from CFBStats.com or Alabama Athletics.

OFFENSE

Scoring offense: 35.3 points per game (44th nationally, 4th SEC)
Rushing offense: 239.0 yards per game (25th, 3rd)
Passing offense: 178.7 yards per game (107th, 12th)
Total offense: 417.7 yards per game (64th, 5th)
Third down conversions: 36.84 percent (89th, 13th)
Red zone conversions: 91.67 percent (T36th, 3rd)

DEFENSE

Scoring defense: 13.3 points per game (T-16th, 4th)
Rushing defense: 80.33 yards per game (8th, 4th)
Passing defense: 224.3 yards per game (64th, 9th)
Total defense: 304.7 yards per game (37th, 7th)
Opponent third down conversions: 41.46 percent (T-84th, 10th)
Opponent red zone conversions: 75.0 percent (T-34th, T-5th)

MISCELLANEOUS

Penalties: 35.0 yards per game (T-17th, 3rd)
Time of possession: 29:52.00 per game (69th, 9th)
Turnover margin: +6 (T-3rd, 2nd)
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
38378 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:15 am to
quote:

Third down conversions: 36.84 percent (89th, 13th)


quote:

Opponent third down conversions: 41.46 percent (T-84th, 10th)


Alarming
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:15 am to
A few additional ones to add to your good post Huddie

Offense
Yards Per Play : 6.6 YPP (23rd Nationally, 2nd SEC)
Yards Per Pass Attempt : 8.1 YPA (38th Nationally, 3rd SEC)
Passer Rating : 158.4 (28th Nationally, 4th SEC)
Yards Per Rush : 6.0 YPA (13th Nationally, 3rd SEC)

Defense
Yards Per Play : 4.5 YPP (29th Nationally, 5th SEC)
Yards Per Pass Attempt : 6.0 YPA (T34th Nationally, T7th SEC)
Passer Rating : 112.3 (37th Nationally, 8th SEC)
Yards Per Rush : 2.9 YPA (T10th Nationally, T4th SEC)

Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
24264 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:25 am to
Yeah I'm still trying to get a grasp on looking at an Alabama team with if we're honest a rather poor defense. As of right now it looks to be the worst of the Saban era sans 2007.
Posted by Sauron
Birmingham
Member since Dec 2015
994 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:26 am to
Obvious issues:

- Pass defense
- Third-down defense (which I think is directly related to pass defense, but I can't prove that)
- Third-down offense
Posted by Gary Busey
Member since Dec 2014
33277 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:36 am to
I honestly thought with Minkah, Averett, Harrison, and Hootie coming back, we'd have a better secondary. Maybe it goes hand-in-hand with the fact that the d-line hasn't been generating as much rush, but it's frustrating to me when teams are in 3rd-and-long, and there's a receiver wide arse open. If anything, I'd like to know what the damn route is so maybe our receivers can run it.
Posted by Gary Busey
Member since Dec 2014
33277 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:38 am to
Good news that does come out from this though:

quote:

"We've got a lot of work to do. We've got to get back to the drawing board because that was just pathetic. We were just on the field entirely too long. We've got to get back and work hard because we're fixing to get into SEC play. We're going to have a come-to-Jesus meeting on Monday."


-Shaun Dion Hamilton after CSU. 'Bout to tear into their asses and put the fear of god back into them.
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
16995 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:42 am to
quote:

rather poor defense.


I truly hope you mean average for Alabama standards and not just poor outright.
This post was edited on 9/18/17 at 9:43 am
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Tittleman's Crest
Member since Feb 2009
52713 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:00 am to
I still think that this defense is really good. One meaningless game doesnt change my opinion.

I think that they will be up for the big games, especially our back 4.
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
24264 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:10 am to
No I mean poor for Alabama standards. Problem is poor at alabama gets your butt handed to you when you face elite offenses like OM can be, Clemson, USC and maybe even Penn State. The sec offenses or at least most of them don't concern me but even a team like LSU if we can't hit Etling and generate pressure with our front four either Etling will light us up because he has great receivers or Guice will run for over 100.
Posted by Sauron
Birmingham
Member since Dec 2015
994 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:26 am to
The other thing that concerns me about the defense is the missed tackles. Maybe it's just my perception, but we seem to have had more missed tackles in these first three games than we did all last year.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:29 am to
quote:

I still think that this defense is really good. One meaningless game doesnt change my opinion.

I think that they will be up for the big games, especially our back 4.



Me too.

Two touchdowns in trash time with FIVE of the teams top linebackers out shouldn't cause the melt we're seeing.
One third of Colorado State's total offense came on their last two possessions of the game.

Remember, Florida State had 250 yards of total offense.

I'm concerned about the situation at linebacker. Even if the injured guys come back completely healthy, depth is now an issue but otherwise I think the defense is and will continue to be fine.
Posted by 1loyalbamafan
alabama
Member since Mar 2015
2689 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:31 am to
quote:

it goes hand-in-hand with the fact that the d-line hasn't been generating as much rush


I think you nailed half or more of the problem. We are depleted on the edge rushers right now.
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11455 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:33 am to
3rd down offense is related to OL playing like shite and us getting behind the chains in 3rd and 5+. Anyone will struggle when it's 3rd and long.

3rd down defense-no pass rush=can't get off the field. The come to Jesus meeting needs to start in the trenches. the back 7 hasn't played poorly in pass coverage. There's the usual gripes about finding the ball, but overall, they are doing their job. The DL is S H I T! We are getting NO pressure with the front 4, having to bring a 5th guy from somewhere to generate any heat. They are doing well stopping the run and stalemating the OL, but they are getting zero push into the backfield on passing downs. I was at the Fresno game and I thought we were playing mush rush as their passing game seemed predicated on quick throws. Now i'm not so sure they weren't just whipping our DL's sorry asses. Find somebody that wants to kill the QB.

The stats say what we really already knew: through 3 games, we look very MEH for Alabama. Still very good, but at this point in the year, not a final 4 team or if we made the playoffs, I'd predict one and done. There's work to do and the injury bug is visiting us this year, but we have the time and the people to improve the weaknesses and get into championship caliber. Let's get to work.
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
16995 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:37 am to
This is the rational answer. People need to relax we have a lot of people out.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:37 am to
I don't have the play list in front of me, but I believe the 2nd group with Tua is something like 0-4 or 0-5 on 3rd downs. With a small sample size early that's probably the difference in 39% and 45%. The first unit has been pretty good on 3rd down. Not perfect, but pretty good.
This post was edited on 9/18/17 at 10:38 am
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72204 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:43 am to
The inability to convert those third downs by the second offensive unit led to late scores by Fresno and CSU. It was especially frustrating on Saturday night.
Posted by OldPete
Georgia
Member since Oct 2013
2804 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 11:14 am to
quote:

Yards Per Pass Attempt : 8.1 YPA (38th Nationally, 3rd SEC)
Passer Rating : 158.4 (28th Nationally, 4th SEC)


Focusing more on these stats at the individual level, according to the NCAA site, Hurts is ranked 22nd in the nation in passing efficiency and 26th in YPA...
This post was edited on 9/18/17 at 11:16 am
Posted by tider04
North Carolina
Member since Oct 2007
5606 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 11:45 am to
quote:

Total defense: 304.7 yards per game (37th, 7th)

For those defending our defense the last couple of weeks...when's the last time a Saban defense was ranked 37th in the nation? That's throwing it back to the Mike Shula era bad. They need to get better and get better fast or this is a 9-3 type season.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 11:48 am to
quote:

I don't have the play list in front of me, but I believe the 2nd group with Tua is something like 0-4 or 0-5 on 3rd downs. With a small sample size early that's probably the difference in 39% and 45%. The first unit has been pretty good on 3rd down. Not perfect, but pretty good.


Pretty much, and it is actually even a bit better.

I may be off a bit, but here are my calculations for the 1st Team (Hurts) offense.

FSU 3/15
Fresno 3/5
CSU 8/11

So, you're looking at 14/31 - or 45% - but it gets a bit better. Three of those failed conversions led to 4th and very short and were converted on 4th down - so the 'keep alive' rate for that group is actually 17/31 (55%), which isn't bad at all.
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