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re: Statues of Mark Ingram and Derrick Henry coming to Walk of Champions area

Posted on 11/23/16 at 10:41 pm to
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 11/23/16 at 10:41 pm to
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Still a waste of however many thousands of dollars it will cost


I agree with your attitude towards the statues, but I always think this is a lame argument. This money would just be lining some booster or administrator's pockets if it wasn't being spent on the statues. It's not like they take it out of the scholarship fund.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 10:46 pm to
Or they could spend it on something the players could actually use.
Posted by Five0
Member since Dec 2009
11354 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 11:02 pm to
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Thoughts?


Derrick Henry's head on the front of a DAMN BIG A$$ TRACTOR!!!





I'm only half kidding too.
Posted by justausedcarguy
Member since Aug 2014
5642 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 11:34 pm to
Mark Ingram said he thought it was a good idea, but they better not put his statue right next to Derricks.
Posted by MagillaGuerilla
Nick Fairley Fan Club, Founder
Member since Nov 2009
35445 posts
Posted on 11/24/16 at 12:53 am to
Not super into it, just really depends on the quality of work.

Don't want Derrick Henry looking like that I Love Lucy statue from a few years back

Posted by justausedcarguy
Member since Aug 2014
5642 posts
Posted on 11/24/16 at 2:02 am to
That thing looks like something out of a horror movie.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30597 posts
Posted on 11/24/16 at 7:49 am to
Excellent recruiting tool...and motivation for players.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 11/24/16 at 7:50 am to
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neither was even the best player on our team in the season they won.

This. Statues for individual awards are retarded.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 11/24/16 at 7:51 am to
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and motivation for players

For some players. Since only RBs and QBs can win the award.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30597 posts
Posted on 11/24/16 at 10:17 am to
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For some players. Since only RBs and QBs can win the award.

Wasn't Amari Cooper invited to NYC for the Heisman finals a few years ago?
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 11/24/16 at 10:37 am to
Yes, and finished a distant 3rd. Mariota finished with 2534 points, Cooper finished with 1023.

Only like 12 non-RB/QB players have even finished in the top 10 in the voting since 2009. Since 2000, only 3 non-RB/QB players have finished in the top 3 (Fitzgerald, Teo, and Cooper).

Fitzgerald finished 2nd by 128 points. Teo finished 2nd by 323 points.

Only 2 non-QB/RB players have won it since 1990, Desmond Howard and Charles Woodson. Only 3 have won it since 1970.
This post was edited on 11/24/16 at 10:47 am
Posted by uofarolltide
Member since Sep 2016
1830 posts
Posted on 11/24/16 at 6:24 pm to
I also don't like this idea.
Mark Ingram is one of my all-time favorite bama players, but having a statue of him outside of the stadium is a bit too much.

The only time a player's statue outside of a stadium is acceptable, is when a huge chunk of your entire program's history can be attributed to that one player - as is the case with Michael Jordan, or Cam Newton.

The Heisman is a team award. Period.
It's a no for me.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
23830 posts
Posted on 11/24/16 at 6:48 pm to
I heard they will look like these

Posted by KingHenry2
Member since Sep 2016
178 posts
Posted on 11/24/16 at 6:49 pm to
If the Heisman is a team award then why shouldn't it be displayed?
Posted by UASports23
Member since Nov 2009
24345 posts
Posted on 11/24/16 at 6:52 pm to
Statues are silly. It is what it is. Henry and Ingram put the team on their backs at times and worked hard @ the capstone. I don't mind them getting their well earned respect.
Posted by UASports23
Member since Nov 2009
24345 posts
Posted on 11/24/16 at 6:54 pm to


The Shaggybevo thread attached to this picture was awesome.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 11/24/16 at 6:55 pm to
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If the Heisman is a team award then why shouldn't it be displayed?


Display the trophy, just don't make a statue for the guy that wasn't even the best player on the team.
Posted by UASports23
Member since Nov 2009
24345 posts
Posted on 11/24/16 at 7:14 pm to
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Display the trophy, just don't make a statue for the guy that wasn't even the best player on the team.


Often the best player on the team doesn't equal the most impactful person on the team or the most memorable person on the team.

Would you say Percy Harvin was the best player for UF in 07 when Tebow won the Heisman?

Almost a decade later, If you asked younger Gator folks to name the most important player of the 2000s. They would pick the most popular, widely known person which is what the Heisman Trophy helps to do.

I agree, that a Heisman Trophy maybe shouldn't be the criteria but lines must be drawn somewhere. Looking at pure performances, Derrick Thomas should have a statue although he isn't a Heisman winner.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 11/24/16 at 7:19 pm to
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Often the best player on the team doesn't equal the most impactful person on the team or the most memorable person on the team.
I'd say McClain was the best and most impactful player on the 2009 team.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 11/24/16 at 7:20 pm to
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Would you say Percy Harvin was the best player for UF in 07 when Tebow won the Heisman?

I don't know if I would say that.
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