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re: Stats from 2nd scrimmage today.....
Posted on 4/10/16 at 10:26 pm to RollTide1987
Posted on 4/10/16 at 10:26 pm to RollTide1987
Exactly, Batemans numbers last year outside of a couple of picks, were pretty darn good. He does need to learn to use his legs and pick up yards when they are there, but the guy is fully capable of managing our offense and leading us to a great season.
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 12:08 am to tider04
Bateman played well late vs Wisconsin. Coming out of that game I was confident we had two capable QBs. The MTSU game was where Coker and Bateman both seemed to fall off the wagon and we became concerned.
Posted on 4/11/16 at 2:50 am to harmonics
Bateman will probably prosper as a starter. Playing your first game as starter against a defense where probably 8 of those guys will play in the NFL is a tough task for anyone.
Bateman's main problem when he played in games last year was that he always threw it to the dump off back or receiver who was running the emergency route and thise guys would always be 2-3 yards short of the marker and Bateman would throw it to them like that on 3rd down and we wouldn't get the first. Now sometimes that's what you need when coverage is excellent but you have to eventually get first downs and sustain drives.
I think his experience in the system and Kiffin's grooming will help him improve significantly. He's very quick. He was a superstar coming out of high school in Utah and he can throw the deep ball but often orefers not to.
Bateman's main problem when he played in games last year was that he always threw it to the dump off back or receiver who was running the emergency route and thise guys would always be 2-3 yards short of the marker and Bateman would throw it to them like that on 3rd down and we wouldn't get the first. Now sometimes that's what you need when coverage is excellent but you have to eventually get first downs and sustain drives.
I think his experience in the system and Kiffin's grooming will help him improve significantly. He's very quick. He was a superstar coming out of high school in Utah and he can throw the deep ball but often orefers not to.
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 3:34 am to tider04
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we hate Bateman now based off of a quarter and change of one game early last year? We hated Sims, then Coker now Bateman. Guess Saban will just have to settle with more hardware with the guys we love to hate.
Speak for yourself. I wasn't high on sims but grew to love his play making ability. Still didn't care for his decisions.
I was on the 2 year Coker plan. Dude is a national champion. If Bateman starts and wins a title then I'll eat crow.
Here's to Cornwell or Barnett winning the job.
Posted on 4/11/16 at 6:51 am to PBD4BAMA
Bateman has unlimited potential, quick wheels, and nice touch on the pass. I've seen it. The team is behind him and the one thing he lacks is confidence which, is built by reps with the 1's and game play. Neither of those things were given last year and he kind of hesitated. I've seen Bateman run the kid can move, he just has to build confidence and know when to tuck and run and when to heave it.
Posted on 4/11/16 at 6:58 am to South Alabama Tide
I am confident in either Bateman, Cornwall, or Barnett. Kiffin has proven he can mold a QB very quickly.
Posted on 4/11/16 at 7:54 am to CapstoneGrad06
Am I the only one hoping that one of these guys can just hand it to Scarbo 25 times a game without fumbling it?
In both scrimmages so far, a receiver has gone over 100 yds (so someone is obviously throwing it to them) with Scarbo also going over 100yd and having TD's.
That's winning football right there boys. Relax guys, not since Pennington have we had a QB that was a genuine liability on the field and I don't think that trend will be broken with the 4 guys vying for the starting nod this year.
In both scrimmages so far, a receiver has gone over 100 yds (so someone is obviously throwing it to them) with Scarbo also going over 100yd and having TD's.
That's winning football right there boys. Relax guys, not since Pennington have we had a QB that was a genuine liability on the field and I don't think that trend will be broken with the 4 guys vying for the starting nod this year.
Posted on 4/11/16 at 7:59 am to Cobrasize
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After everything that has come out of the scrimmages, you would have to be crazy to want Barnett to start as of right now.
Yep, we all fell in love with his hype and potential but the kid is a turnover machine at present. Light hasn't come on for him yet and it would be a disaster to start him at this point. Maybe the light comes on for him this summer, but more likely that he needs another year to develop. Bateman and Corn is the real battle for 2016.
Posted on 4/11/16 at 8:16 am to tider04
I wouldn't rule out Barnett yet. Saban has intentionally played psychological games with his potential QB's in the past. Don't put too much stock in what he says. Often he has motives.
That said, I don't care who wins the job. It may well be one of the other guys and that's fine with me. The coaches are going to pick whoever gives us the best shot to win.
That said, I don't care who wins the job. It may well be one of the other guys and that's fine with me. The coaches are going to pick whoever gives us the best shot to win.
Posted on 4/11/16 at 9:27 am to RollTide1987
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Sims get the job because of the shortcomings he displayed as a back-up in 2012 and 2013
Crazy thing is is that he never really even displayed that many shortcomings as a backup.
Posted on 4/11/16 at 9:31 am to Funky Tide 8
Scrimmage observations from some dude on BOL:
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Hope everyone had a great weekend. Had a good time over the weekend being back in Tuscaloosa for the coaching clinic and watching Bama on the field for a couple of days.
Coach Saban and the program puts on just a top-shelf clinic. From the speakers, to the facility, the food (5,000 pounds of crawfish for 1,200 coaches ... lol goodness), to the access to the staff - just a tremendous experience. In one weekend, I got Spurrier, Bill Polian, Dungy, Saban, various members of the staff including Cochran and Pruitt, plus some great HS coaches ... really good stuff.
As for the scrimmage, I'm not sure I have much to add that hasn't already been covered. But here's a few thoughts ...
RB
Just totally fired up about Scarborough. I mean it's hard to imagine duplicating a 2,000 yard Heisman season like what we saw last year but, from a talent standpoint, Scarborough is right there with Henry. Physical, maybe even a better burst vertically when he puts his foot in the ground and every bit as fast. Can't tell yet if he's going to be equally effective in protection, so we'll see. Damien Harris looks fine. He's a good back, definitely the #2. A little more of a scat-type back, but he'll lower his pads and stick up in there.
OL
I just don't know when we've ever been this deep. We look really good here. Jonah looks solid, as does Kirven. Actually, Kirven is one of the better looking lineman we have. Cotton's pretty nasty, and Pierschbacher is going to be an All-American one day. Plenty of depth here with Bozeman, Shank, Hass, etc. We look good here.
WR
Can't stop raving about where this unit is. Just ridiculously talented. There are two for-certain NFL players in the rotation in Robert Foster and Calvin Ridley, and I'm sure Ar'Darius Stewart will get an opportunity. Throwing in OJ Howard, with Scarborough in the backfield ... y'all ... matchup nightmares. I mean Lord God. Gonna be fun to watch.
Foster made great plays over the top of Minkah and Hump on deep balls. He looks ready to be the man.
QB
I thought Bateman played pretty well for the most part. Can extend plays, arm strength is good enough. I'd say he's going to end up winning the job and unless he just melts down, he'll be our guy. I'm good with it.
Cornwell was fine. Nothing flashy or spectacular.
Hurts stole the show Saturday. Really played the best of the four. He's very, very, Blake Sims-ish. The play calling is different when he's in there (boots, short stuff), but he also stood in there and made some throws. Also has big-time wheels. Took off on a 60-yard scramble for a TD off a boot (although it was against the 3s), and ran away from everyone.
***But I'm telling you right now - don't sleep on this kid pushing for the backup role by the fall. I know it was only one scrimmage, but he's really good. Will be really interesting to see him and Barnett battle down the road.
As for Barnett, he just isn't ready. The pick 6 - which was not reported in the official stat release - was his, and it was bad (to Minkah). I mean bad. The game is still happening really fast for him. I maintain ... for now ... that eventually it will happen for him. I like him a ton. Just looks the part more than any of the others.
The defense ...
You can't talk about our defense without starting with our secondary, which is as deep as I've seen us in awhile. Minkah and Hump are big-time, and both gave up plays *and* made plays. Gonna happen as much man as we play, but we have two legit All-SEC caliber corners. When Minkah moves inside to Star, Anthony Averett looks really good at corner too. Really good. With Eddie Jack and Ronnie Harrison running around back there at safeties ... goodness. Harrison is ready to thump people. Saw him in the box several times too. Closest thing we've had to Barron since he left. Maurice Smith also looks great. I mean just athletes and playmakers everywhere. Kendell Sheffield can play. Didn't see a lot of Tony Brown, and I know he has some issues to work though.
DL - looks great, didn't give up much push to a great OL, regardless of what the RB stats say. Most of Scarborough's yards came on an outside that was blocked great for about 40 - 50 yard gain. Tim Williams looks like a freak. Payne is an animal, very tough to block without help. Ryan Anderson is super physical and the most underrated player up front if you ask me. He looks very Upshaw-ish. Christian Miller had a good day, including a strip-sack. Would be nice if he could get in the mix. All this with no JAllen or DaShawn Hand.
ILB - already said it, we're fine whomever starts. But depth is an issue here, and I hope we stay healthy. Reuben is going to be the player we always thought he could/would be. Rashaan Evans looks like a CJ Moseley clone. Can do so many things with him. I'm not wild about Shaun Hamilton, but the staff loves him and, for now, he's what we've got there. He's bigger in person than I thought though.
The kicking game
The most disappointing part of the day, primarily bc of Adam Griffith. He started the day drilling two 35 yard FGs, then missed 4 straight between 30 - 44 yards. It's not like he missed four beyond 50. One was from 30. I mean I don't get it. Just really don't. Had hoped he'd turned the corner ... maybe it was just a bad day. Hope so.
JK Scott was awesome. He had a hell of day. Just booming long, high punts. Hopefully we'll keep him all four years.
Kick/punt returns weren't live, but it looks like Ridley is the guy returning punts. They didn't really work KOR, so I'm not sure there.
In all, Saturday was just a drop-dead gorgeous day in Titleloosa and it was great weekend. If you can get out there for A-Day, do it. Gonna be a fun team to watch.
Posted on 4/11/16 at 9:42 am to TideSaint
I'm not sure about in Tuscaloosa Sat but at Bamarep's house the wind was a MF.
Perhaps that contributed to Griffin's woes.
Perhaps that contributed to Griffin's woes.
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:50 am to TideSaint
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RB
Just totally fired up about Scarborough. I mean it's hard to imagine duplicating a 2,000 yard Heisman season like what we saw last year but, from a talent standpoint, Scarborough is right there with Henry. Physical, maybe even a better burst vertically when he puts his foot in the ground and every bit as fast.
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WR
Can't stop raving about where this unit is. Just ridiculously talented. There are two for-certain NFL players in the rotation in Robert Foster and Calvin Ridley, and I'm sure Ar'Darius Stewart will get an opportunity. Throwing in OJ Howard, with Scarborough in the backfield ... y'all ... matchup nightmares. I mean Lord God. Gonna be fun to watch.
But seriously, I said it then, and I will say it now: Bo's HS film looks every bit of impressive as Fournette's. It wouldn't surprise me if he straight up dominates.
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:28 am to Funky Tide 8
With a health Scarbrough, a solid OL and a ton of talented, explosive pass catching options......I want a guy who we can get outside the pocket, stress defenses and make good decisions.
I was hoping it would be Barnett, but if it is Bateman so be it. I have more confidence in him than I have our past 2 starters coming out of camp (and I loved Blake from Day 1).
Batman vs Wisconsin (starts at 1:42:50 mark)
I was hoping it would be Barnett, but if it is Bateman so be it. I have more confidence in him than I have our past 2 starters coming out of camp (and I loved Blake from Day 1).
Batman vs Wisconsin (starts at 1:42:50 mark)
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:51 am to SummerOfGeorge
I like this comment from the Wiscy guy that made that video:
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Man, I've uploaded a few Wisconsin videos and gotten nothing from Badgers fans. I upload one Alabama game and all their fans are thanking me and telling me I'm the man. You guys are alright with me. Please go on and beat Ohio State, I know I should be rooting for the Big Ten and all, but their fans (OSU) are a bunch of jerks. You guys deserve it more.?
Posted on 4/11/16 at 1:43 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Batman vs Wisconsin (starts at 1:42:50 mark)
Damn first Superman and then he had to take on the entire Wisconsin D. Batman can't catch a break right now!
Posted on 4/11/16 at 1:52 pm to Othello
Was a nickname just born?
Posted on 4/11/16 at 1:53 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
When we signed Bateman and McLeod in the same class I tried to nickname them American Psycho and Highlander but neither one stuck 
Posted on 4/11/16 at 1:55 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
Nah. He's already been the Master Bateman.
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