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Posted on 9/1/14 at 7:26 pm to RTR America
What RTR America said
Posted on 9/1/14 at 7:55 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
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Sims looked better than GMAC for sure. But CFB as changed in a short time. We can't win a title with another GMAC.
As for AJ, everyone knew AJ had ability, and he was throwing the ball down field. Not making an excuse, Sims definitely had a better first game, but AJ had less question marks going into 2011 than Sims does now. Sims will have a chance to answer them though, and I think he will.
not sure why the race baiter doesn't see this ... we will have to score 40 pts against tamu to have a chance at winning ...
Posted on 9/1/14 at 8:14 pm to imraged
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It doesn't necessarily even have to be racism though. It's human nature to identify with and in turn root for people who are most like you. I think that does play a part in it even if it is subconsciously.
good fricking grief ... you think bama fans would want a white guy to start over jameis winston (criminal acts aside)? ... jacob coker has a strong arm, mobility, and seems at least half intelligent enough to play qb ...
every football fan in the world, literally, wants a qb with a strong arm, mobility, and at least half enough intelligence to play qb ... coker has 3 of those, sims has 2 (weaker arm) ... maybe coker can't get it done during the game, so sims will be the starter ... that's fine ... no one gives 2 rips, either consciously or subconsciously, about skin color ...
Posted on 9/1/14 at 8:19 pm to BamaStepL
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Coker won't see anything more than mop up duty the next 2 games... I don't know what reality you guys are living in but, it's kinda entertaining and also sad at the same time.
Will you come back and own up to this when you are wrong? Barring injury Coker will get significant play time in both games.
Posted on 9/1/14 at 9:22 pm to imjustafatkid
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You still haven't answered my question. Do you think Sims can lead a come from behind victory with his arm?
Fuk yes. I keep forgetting how many kids post on this board.
What was AJs longest pass to beat LSU on the last drive in 12?
Let the damn coaches run the team and pull for a victory. Not everybody's boyfriend will become a starting QB.
Posted on 9/1/14 at 11:05 pm to MontyFranklyn
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GMAC missed throws all the fricking time, McElroy overthrew the deep ball regular
And posters here wanted him pulled as well. No one has made the argument that GMac is better. You're using race or some are rather but truth is, people want to see Coker because we already have a rather large body of work to look at with Sims which is why they're hoping Coker is as good as advertised. The posters here have remained fairly level headed and taken a wait and see approach. We would just like to see if that's OK with the rest of you.
Posted on 9/1/14 at 11:50 pm to TideSaint
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TideSaint: I know it was reported in pregame warm-ups his leg was heavily wrapped.
KneeWrapGate
Here is a pic of Coker's knee "heavily wrapped." He's wearing a white legging.
I'm frankly surprised they were able to save his leg. I might do an ice bucket challenge for folks who need to keep their knee warm. Gotta raise awareness of this terrible, terrible affliction our obviously best QB is afflicted with.
Posted on 9/2/14 at 12:12 am to prevatt33
He was in the locker room longer than the other QBs when warmups started and "limped" out.
TIFWIW
TIFWIW
Posted on 9/2/14 at 12:17 am to AllBamaDoesIsWin
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He was in the locker room longer than the other QBs when warmups started and "limped" out.
TIFWIW
"I guess I just have to take you at your word, number 2."
This post was edited on 9/2/14 at 12:19 am
Posted on 9/2/14 at 12:46 am to observant1
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Fuk yes. I keep forgetting how many kids post on this board.
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What was AJs longest pass to beat LSU on the last drive in 12?
Let the damn coaches run the team and pull for a victory. Not everybody's boyfriend will become a starting QB.
None of this is relevant. AJ was capable of throwing the deep ball. Because of this fact, defenses had to respect that ability. A defense would play a QB with a more limited arm in a different manner. Short passes to win the game won't work against LSU if there isn't a deep threat.
You're a fool if you watched Sims on Saturday and think we will win any championships with him. Me, personally, I pull for our team to win championships. I don't care about besting West Virginia. If our defense doesn't show some improvement across the board then our QB will definitely have to bail us out of at least one game.
It's amazing the only actual counter to that point has been someone who doesn't want to believe that will happen...
This post was edited on 9/2/14 at 12:54 am
Posted on 9/2/14 at 1:07 am to imjustafatkid
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bail us out of at least one game.
To what extent? Sims was at his best on Saturday in the no-huddle especially during the drive at the end of the first half. To be fair WVU's defense doesn't look to be exceptional but if he can replicate that type of play under pressure I see no reason to think he's incapable. You don't have to have an absolute cannon like Coker to hit the intermediate to deep ball every once in a while.
Posted on 9/2/14 at 1:13 am to imjustafatkid
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AJ was capable of throwing the deep ball. Because of this fact, defenses had to respect that ability.
Defenses are going to have to respect Sims' ability to run, which will open up the passing game even more. Did you not see what Nick Marshall did to Alabama last year?
Posted on 9/2/14 at 5:15 am to imjustafatkid
Wow, you already know what his ceiling is after watching a whopping one start! How are you not a scout somewhere?
And as others have pointed out, Sims actually played some of his better football while running the two minute offense, so why are you crowing about his ability to lead a game winner while trailing? Oh right, because the two deep passes he tried were ineffective. For shite's sake, AJ missed his share of deep balls too, and scored one of his most memorable wins with a screen pass.
And as others have pointed out, Sims actually played some of his better football while running the two minute offense, so why are you crowing about his ability to lead a game winner while trailing? Oh right, because the two deep passes he tried were ineffective. For shite's sake, AJ missed his share of deep balls too, and scored one of his most memorable wins with a screen pass.
Posted on 9/2/14 at 7:44 am to BamaStepL
Sims is a 5th year senior who still needed a lot of help with the play calling. He's no McElroy who can hide a weak arm.
I thought he played very well. But what you saw is what you're going to get with him. That would be fine if we played the 100+ ranked defense in the nation every week. I like him. I think he's a great guy, and if he's the best we've got at QB, then he's the best we've got.
But he can't stretch the field. You can't run the ball if the safeties are at the line. Saban's whole offense depends on the threat of a deep ball.
So, Blake can do some good things, but he's not a complete QB. Can Coker do better? We don't know. I get the feeling Saban wants to find out. Coker's obvious problem is he just joined the program and can't run the offense fluidly. Is he a BETTER passer than Sims? We don't know. But, he's at least more of a threat to throw it down the field. That alone isn't enough to win either. But we don't know what else he can do yet.
We have as much talent at WR as we've ever had. Yet, some of you want to limit them to catching dink and dunk passes. A good downfield passing game opens up the run game.
And those of you calling people racist for hoping another QB can do better ARE the racists. There are racist Bama fans, but the VAST majority of us just want to win games. Seventy-five percent of the damned team is african-american. Nobody cares. But YOU guys want to make it into a race thing, and it's already started. I've heard it on the radio this morning. Do you think Saban cares about race? He's going to play the guy he thinks gives him the best chance of winning. That's all anyone wants.
I thought he played very well. But what you saw is what you're going to get with him. That would be fine if we played the 100+ ranked defense in the nation every week. I like him. I think he's a great guy, and if he's the best we've got at QB, then he's the best we've got.
But he can't stretch the field. You can't run the ball if the safeties are at the line. Saban's whole offense depends on the threat of a deep ball.
So, Blake can do some good things, but he's not a complete QB. Can Coker do better? We don't know. I get the feeling Saban wants to find out. Coker's obvious problem is he just joined the program and can't run the offense fluidly. Is he a BETTER passer than Sims? We don't know. But, he's at least more of a threat to throw it down the field. That alone isn't enough to win either. But we don't know what else he can do yet.
We have as much talent at WR as we've ever had. Yet, some of you want to limit them to catching dink and dunk passes. A good downfield passing game opens up the run game.
And those of you calling people racist for hoping another QB can do better ARE the racists. There are racist Bama fans, but the VAST majority of us just want to win games. Seventy-five percent of the damned team is african-american. Nobody cares. But YOU guys want to make it into a race thing, and it's already started. I've heard it on the radio this morning. Do you think Saban cares about race? He's going to play the guy he thinks gives him the best chance of winning. That's all anyone wants.
Posted on 9/2/14 at 8:19 am to pvilleguru
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We won't come close to a championship with Sims.
Coach Saban won two SEC titles with similar QBs. Matt Mauck was a more savy passer, but the similarities are there.
Posted on 9/2/14 at 8:25 am to imjustafatkid
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You're a fool if you watched Sims on Saturday and think we will win any championships with him. Me, personally, I pull for our team to win championships. I don't care about besting West Virginia. If our defense doesn't show some improvement across the board then our QB will definitely have to bail us out of at least one game.
I agree that if the D doesn't improve greatly then we won't be winning the NC with BS...however we also wouldn't win it if we still had AJ (see last year) or GMAC (see 2010). Both seasons we had NC winning QBs at the helm but couldn't get it done. Why?
1. Winning a NC is a very, very hard thing to do
2. The defenses in those 2 years while good weren't dominant
If GMAC or AJ couldn't win a NC without a dominant D, is it fair to expect Sims (or Coker) to?
Posted on 9/2/14 at 8:29 am to Teague
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But what you saw is what you're going to get with him. That would be fine if we played the 100+ ranked defense in the nation every week. I like him. I think he's a great guy, and if he's the best we've got at QB, then he's the best we've got.
But he can't stretch the field
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We have as much talent at WR as we've ever had. Yet, some of you want to limit them to catching dink and dunk passes. A good downfield passing game opens up the run gam
Sorry, I'm not ready to come to these conclusions after his first start.
Posted on 9/2/14 at 8:33 am to Teague
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But he can't stretch the field. You can't run the ball if the safeties are at the line. Saban's whole offense depends on the threat of a deep ball.
No it doesn't. It depends on run-pass balance, protecting the ball, and accuracy in the short and intermediate passing game.
And some of you are going overboard on this "can't stretch the field" critique IMO. Yeah he missed a couple but what QB doesn't? That 1/5 on 15+ yard passes they showed? They flashed it immediately after CJ dropped his second pass of 15+ yards. 3/5 on deep passes is actually really good, but by all means, lets write him off because of 1 misleading stat in his first game.
Posted on 9/2/14 at 8:39 am to BamaStepL
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BamaStepL
You are a clown.
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