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Sims is better than Coker... let's be real.

Posted on 9/1/14 at 7:28 am
Posted by BamaStepL
Ttown
Member since Feb 2011
2334 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 7:28 am
The only thing that Coker has on Sims is arm strength... that's it.

Size is NOT a talent.

Sims arm strength is very good. He's quicker and faster. His pocket instincts are obviously better... he's actually shown the most pocket awareness I've seen by a Bama QB.

Blake just became the best 1st time starter ever and he still can be better. Imagine if he wasn't splitting starter reps with Jake. Maybe all the confusion would have been non existent or at least to a minimum.

Coker does not give us the best chance to win a championship. I think that's pretty clear. I'm sure there's still some hope that Blake somehow falls on his face to give Coker the job but, that's not likely to happen.

Looking forward to a great season with Sims as our leader. #16 is on the way.
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 7:45 am to
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arm strength


Kind of a big deal

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Size is NOT a talent.



The NFL draft would disagree

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Imagine if he wasn't splitting starter reps with Jake. Maybe all the confusion would have been non existent or at least to a minimum.


Practice reps? There is probably a reason. Probably the same reason Saban thought about pulling Blake in the 2nd quarter and why we will likely see them split reps in the games leading up to Florida.

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Coker does not give us the best chance to win a championship. I think that's pretty clear.


Based on? He took 2 snaps against WVU.

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Looking forward to a great season with Sims as our leader.


And I will be fully behind him.

The job likely isn't decided yet and won't be for a few weeks. Your statements about Coker don't really have much backing unless you've been watching practice.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 7:50 am to


We won't come close to a championship with Sims.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55437 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 8:21 am to
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Sims arm strength is very good.


wut

ETA: I was very pleased with Blake's performance...but this is silly.
This post was edited on 9/1/14 at 8:22 am
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
18302 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 8:23 am to
We need more plays designed to sims strengths.
Posted by chattabama
12essee
Member since Jun 2012
19315 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 8:34 am to
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Sims arm strength is very good.




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His pocket instincts are obviously better... he's actually shown the most pocket awareness I've seen by a Bama QB.


You know this how?

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Blake just became the best 1st time starter ever and he still can be better.


He also has some of the best skill players ever. He threw a lot of underneath passes where Coop and White padded his stats.

If you think that UF, LSU, and AU are going to give those short passes to Blake then I don't know what to tell you.

I like Sims. He's been a good team player, but he's physically limited.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29595 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 8:39 am to
So now we know Blake Sims' mom posts here.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 8:41 am to
I think some people are afraid to call a spade a spade because they don't want to seem racist. So they are trying to make Sims sound much better than he actually is.
Posted by BamaPanic
Birmingham
Member since Oct 2013
563 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 8:42 am to
Sims could get us to 8-9 wins.

If I was happy with that, I would have gone to school in Athens, GA.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55437 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 8:46 am to
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I think some people are afraid to call a spade a spade because they don't want to seem racist.


Poor phrasing.

Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50230 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 8:50 am to
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So now we know Blake Sims' mom posts here




Seriously though, Sims obviously isn't a title-winning QB. If he really is our best option then we might as well start looking to next season.

ETA: He's been in the system for four years. He should have more upside than we saw on Saturday.
This post was edited on 9/1/14 at 8:52 am
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
23830 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 8:52 am to
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We won't come close to a championship with Sims.
Probably won't with Coker either
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 8:52 am to
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Sims is better than Coker


Define better. Sims has better chemistry and timing in the offense right now, and he's a better athlete. That's all we know for sure.

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Size is NOT a talent.



No, but you have to be able to see over all those 6'5" and 6'6" OL. Sims looked good vs WVU.

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Sims arm strength is very good


It's fine on short throws, which is very important in the WCO. But it took everything he had to throw that ball to Jones, and Jones was standing under it for a while.

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He's quicker and faster


Yep.

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His pocket instincts are obviously better


Nope. You can't say that because you haven't seen Coker take meaningful snaps with a first team OL.

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he's actually shown the most pocket awareness I've seen by a Bama QB.


I agree to an extent. I was very impressed by his work in the pocket.

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Blake just became the best 1st time starter ever and he still can be better.


He can still be better, but most of the work was done by Coop and Jones. Don't get me wrong, that is the design of our O.

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Coker does not give us the best chance to win a championship.


You don't know that because he hasn't played yet.

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I think that's pretty clear


You have no reason to think that. Especially since both Saban and Sims in their post game interviews made it out like the competition wasn't over.

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I'm sure there's still some hope that Blake somehow falls on his face to give Coker the job but, that's not likely to happen.


No one fricking wants this. Everyone who has criticism doesn't have an agenda.

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Looking forward to a great season with Sims as our leader. #16 is on the way.



This.
Posted by BamaStepL
Ttown
Member since Feb 2011
2334 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 8:55 am to
Yeah all players are physically limited to some degree... that's just dumb, I mean none of them can fly... so Coker is mentally limited right? I'd rather have a physically limited QB than a dumb one... with all these imaginary gifts Coker can't seem to win ANY QB battles with less talented (Sims) or experienced (Winston) QBs...

I laugh at you sad individuals. Since Saban "almost" put Coker in he's obviously the better QB. Obviously Saban was so reluctant he gave Kiffin an alternative plan that did not include Jake.

Coker won't see anything more than mop up duty the next 2 games... I don't know what reality you guys are living in but, it's kinda entertaining and also sad at the same time.

The sad part is the lack of acceptance for Blake for "whatever" reason lol. The QB job of '14 is taken... here's looking to a more competitive battle for Coker next year. But if he keeps holding the ball too long, taking sacks, throwing multiple ints in practice, and missing wrs high over the middle hello Bateman, Morris and Cornwell. And don't forget about Barnett.

I can't figure out if the desire for Coker to be the man is because you're embarrassed that you were trolled to the nth degree by Jimbo and the medidiots or because you just want the white boy to be the man. Which is fine by me.

Sims has way more physical tools than Coker. Strong arms are only good if you're also football smart and accurate. Coker is neither.
This post was edited on 9/1/14 at 8:57 am
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 8:57 am to
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Probably won't with Coker either
I don't think I've ever commented on Coker. I'm not afraid to say we don't have a championship caliber QB on the roster at this point.
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 8:57 am to
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This basically explains why we didn't see Coker throw. Sims had a decent rhythm and it was a close game. It would have hurt to switch QBs unless Sims was really messing up. He started to in the 2nd quarter, but then got back on track.

We'll see Jake vs FAU and USM, and then we can have much more fair debates about the two QBs. I like to think we have two solid QBs, but I wanna see Jake prove that first and I still wanna see Blake do some things that he'll have to do for us to contend.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
23830 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 8:57 am to
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The sad part is the lack of acceptance for Blake for "whatever" reason lol.
I have a great idea of what that reason is. You will be able to tell next year when Cornwell beats him out and no one says a word, not a fricking word.
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 8:58 am to
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so Coker is mentally limited right? I'd rather have a physically limited QB than a dumb one


By all indications, he's smart. Not having chemistry and timing with guys after like 20 practices doesn't make you "dumb".

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with all these imaginary gifts Coker can't seem to win ANY QB battles with less talented (Sims) or experienced (Winston) QBs...


The Sims/Coker battle is ongoing, and Winston is a special talent.
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 8:59 am to
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I laugh at you sad individuals. Since Saban "almost" put Coker in he's obviously the better QB. Obviously Saban was so reluctant he gave Kiffin an alternative plan that did not include Jake.


No one said Coker was the better QB. But he has better physical tools for the position.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
23830 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 9:00 am to
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But he has better physical tools for the position.
So since her can overthrow people deep he gives us a better chance of winning?
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