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Posted on 9/8/16 at 8:30 pm to YStar
Where did Saban say he planned on playing Hurts the rest of the way?
Posted on 9/8/16 at 9:11 pm to TideSaint
Did he have to say it when that is exactly what he did?
We're smart enough to deduce that.
Hurts wasn't taken out till the game was over and we had a +30 point lead.
So Saban's plan was to play BB for two series, then play Hurts (regardless of his mistakes) until the game was won. That is exactly what he is insinuating with that quote, because that is precisely what he did.
Those are the facts.
Downvote away.
We're smart enough to deduce that.
Hurts wasn't taken out till the game was over and we had a +30 point lead.
So Saban's plan was to play BB for two series, then play Hurts (regardless of his mistakes) until the game was won. That is exactly what he is insinuating with that quote, because that is precisely what he did.
Those are the facts.
Downvote away.
This post was edited on 9/8/16 at 9:14 pm
Posted on 9/8/16 at 10:02 pm to YStar
Why so argumentative on this. Let it go and move on. You are acting like a putz.
Posted on 9/9/16 at 1:50 am to YStar
quote:hurts didn't exactly look good on his first 3 series. Why are people overlooking the pretty obvious fact that both played great once the OL gel'd. In barnett's 2 opening series usc was blitzing pretty much every play, and the ol was giving him no chance. This is most likely why both players are going to get another shot. BB clearly is the better passer, that pass to oj was a thing of beauty and the bomb td to dietre was perfect, hit him in stride, he threw no picks or errant balls, and his only incompletion was a drop by the wr. hurts barely completed half his passes and his 2 big passes were easy throws to wide open receivers/blown coverage, and he threw an ugly pick while not being pressured. Hurts obviously is the superior running threat and brings an extra dimension that teams will have to prepare for (barnett is not exactly a statue either though). It makes perfect sense to see what both can do with hopefully a more confident and cohesive ol to start the game. Honestly i won't be surprised if barnett comes out first again to see how he does.
What hell was wrong with me pointing out BB has struggled with pressure, which was why Saban pulled him. He only performed well after the game was already won, USC had given up and there was no pressure or chance of failure
This post was edited on 9/9/16 at 1:53 am
Posted on 9/9/16 at 6:32 am to YStar
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We're smart enough to deduce that.
Just a few posts ago, you were deducing that Saban pulled Barnett because he was rattled.
Maybe everyone should quit trying to read his mind and instead sit back and see how it plays out.
This post was edited on 9/9/16 at 6:33 am
Posted on 9/9/16 at 7:13 am to narddogg81
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hurts didn't exactly look good on his first 3 series. Why are people overlooking the pretty obvious fact that both played great once the OL gel'd.
This only supports my theory.
If Saban planned to play BB for two series, why didn't he take Hurts out after even three series?
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BB clearly is the better passer, that pass to oj was a thing of beauty and the bomb td to dietre was perfect, hit him in stride, he threw no picks or errant balls, and his only incompletion was a drop by the wr. hurts barely completed half his passes and his 2 big passes were easy throws to wide open receivers/blown coverage, and he threw an ugly pick while not being pressured
Lol, what?
Just no.
Posted on 9/9/16 at 7:15 am to JustGetItRight
Is this forum for discussing or not?
I'm not even saying anything volatile, I'm just coming to conclusions no differently than other posters, the only difference is I'm supporting Hurts so those who support BB are attacking me for it.
I guess we will see how things play out. After all the shite you guys have given me, I can't wait to be right.
Downvote away
I'm not even saying anything volatile, I'm just coming to conclusions no differently than other posters, the only difference is I'm supporting Hurts so those who support BB are attacking me for it.
I guess we will see how things play out. After all the shite you guys have given me, I can't wait to be right.
Downvote away
This post was edited on 9/9/16 at 7:17 am
Posted on 9/9/16 at 7:34 am to YStar
You guys are taking the internet way too seriously.
Posted on 9/9/16 at 8:04 am to narddogg81
Why is everyone putting so much emphasis on Blake's two good passes, but downplaying the fact that we were up by 4 tds at that point? Saban stuck with Hurts because he gave us the best chance to win that game. Period.
Posted on 9/9/16 at 8:19 am to YStar
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I'm not even saying anything volatile, I'm just coming to conclusions no differently than other posters, the only difference is I'm supporting Hurts so those who support BB are attacking me for it.
What you're doing is promoting your opinions as fact with no supporting information at all, getting aggressive and defensive when challenged, and then when facts surface that disprove your initial assertion, you simply change your argument and act as if you never said the earlier misstatements.
The Barnett/Hurts rotation is exhibit A. You straight up said as fact "BB has struggled with pressure, which was why Saban pulled him" with no evidence to support that position other than your opinion. When you learned (apparently a couple of days after everyone else) that the game plan called for Hurts to come in on the 3rd series you say "So Saban just started BB to ese Hurts in? That's the only explanation for that. How else do you explain Saban planning to play BB the first two series and Hurts until the game was out of reach?" Once again, declaring as absolute fact with no supporting evidence other than your personal feelings and observation.
Did you ever consider politics? Your ability to totally contradict yourself and ignore that you've done it would serve you well in that field.
You're not trying to have a discussion. You're attempting to browbeat into submission anyone who you feel might possibly disagree with you.
Posted on 9/9/16 at 8:37 am to MontyFranklyn
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Why is everyone putting so much emphasis on Blake's two good passes, but downplaying the fact that we were up by 4 tds at that point? Saban stuck with Hurts because he gave us the best chance to win that game. Period.
Posted on 9/9/16 at 9:21 am to TideSaint
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TUSCALOOSA, Ala. — We’re just two days away from Alabama’s home opener vs. Western Kentucky.
The Crimson Tide and the Hilltoppers meet Saturday inside Bryant-Denny Stadium at 3:30 p.m. ET on ESPN2. We’re still breaking down the matchup from every angle. Here are five things worth tracking when the two squads take the field:
5. How Alabama starts the game
It’s always interesting to watch how a team like Alabama comes out at the start of this type of matchup.
“We had a little better practice today,” Saban said Wednesday. “I thought the energy and enthusiasm was a little bit better. We’ve been a little sluggish for a couple days this week and we certainly need to pick up the tempo. The team did a better job of that today.”
Western Kentucky has the type of explosive offense that could make this a competitive game for a while. Alabama is going to win. But Western Kentucky could put some points if the Crimson Tide doesn’t come out ready to play.
4. Alabama’s secondary in its dime set
We didn’t see much of Alabama’s dime package against Southern Cal, but Western Kentucky really likes to spread out teams. During the open viewing periods of practice, we’ve seen Marlon Humphrey and Anthony Averett at the cornerback spots. Hootie Jones comes in at safety opposite Eddie Jackson. Ronnie Harrison slides from safety to money (Alabama’s sixth defensive back) with Minkah Fitzpatrick working at star (Alabama’s fifth defensive back).
The game offers a good opportunity for Alabama’s dime unit to get some work before facing SEC teams that run spread offense. We’ll also get a look at Alabama’s pass rushers in these sets. Alabama has some of the best pass rushers in the country, so it’s always intriguing to see how opposing teams game plan to slow them down.
3. The atmosphere
This game has the makings of a runaway victory for Alabama. Plenty of Alabama fans have been known to leave early if the game is out of reach. Saban knows that, so he challenged the fans to create a good atmosphere for the players.
“We’re excited to have a home opener in our stadium. I know our players are always excited to play in Bryant-Denny,” Saban said. “We have great fans. It’s a great atmosphere. But I think this is another one of those fastball teams that’s going to go fast. They’re going to mike and check and try to communicate at the line of scrimmage and get signals from the sideline. I really do think it’s a huge advantage for our team if their offense has to work against noise and has to go on silent and it helps us with the snap count indicator. I’ll be harping about that all week long so hopefully our fans will respond to that.”
Will fans be loud and stay through the entire game? Or will the stadium be half full if the game becomes a blowout?
2. Young players seeing more snaps
If Alabama gets up big, we’ll see a lot of the backups in the game. Young players to watch for on offense are freshman running backs B.J. Emmons and Joshua Jacobs. Both received carries against Southern Cal, but they should have bigger roles in this game. Defensively, safety Trevon Diggs, inside linebacker Lyndell “Mack” Wilson and outside linebacker Anfernee Jennings are a few players to watch.
Players who don’t play in the first two or three weeks typically redshirt barring some special circumstance.
1. How the quarterbacks are managed
Both Blake Barnett and Jalen Hurts are going to play on Saturday. It’s unclear who is going to start, or how the rotation will look. But it wouldn’t be a surprise if the coaching staff treated this like a scrimmage and put a lot of pressure on the quarterbacks to see who responds the best under difficult circumstances. Both players struggled early on before settling in as the game went on against Southern Cal.
The coaching staff may be looking for the player who can start fast and remain consistent throughout the game on Saturday.
LINK
Posted on 9/9/16 at 9:30 am to TideSaint
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Why is everyone putting so much emphasis on Blake's two good passes, but downplaying the fact that we were up by 4 tds at that point?
I'm kind of in the same school of thought. What that game showed us about the QBs is that A) both are physically capable of making plays and being "the guy", and B) that the moment was too big for one when the pressure was on and it wasn't too big for the other. That's not to say that BB wont relax and be calm in the midst of the pressure, but he certainly looked deer in the headlights for the first couple of series while Hurts looked calm the entire time - even after fumbling his first college touch and throwing a pick.
Posted on 9/9/16 at 9:31 am to TideSaint
No, it's a legit question. Also, can some one look up and see if USC's first team was even still in the game. If those throws were made against the 2nd or third team guys that makes a huge difference. We saw Jalen make those throws against the first team.
Posted on 9/9/16 at 9:34 am to MontyFranklyn
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We saw Jalen make those throws against the first team.
let's be fair all around though, Jalen made one tight coverage throw (to Ridley on sidelines on 3rd and long) but his main completions were to wide open players (Stewart).
I like Hurts and think he's the guy, but I also know that both are capable of helping us win and leading the team if needed.
Posted on 9/9/16 at 9:39 am to bamasgot13
Let's not for get about the deep pass down the middle to Ridley that was broken up by Jackson. He put it on the money, but a great CB with superb closing speed broke it up
Posted on 9/9/16 at 10:11 am to narddogg81
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hurts barely completed half his passes and his 2 big passes were easy throws to wide open receivers/blown coverage
If you're gonna excuse BB's incompletion, you need to excuse as least a couple from Hurts as well...there were at least 2 of his throws where he threw the ball away when nothing was open or to avoid a loss.
As for Hurts' TD passes, I wouldn't say that first one was an easy throw as that was a 55-yard dart...and he stayed with Stewart even with him getting pushed out of bounds. Granted, the broken coverage TD was an easy throw. Blake's 2 long throws were beautiful...but I want to see him make the same throws when the game is on the line...
That being said, I feel good with whomever Saban/Kiffin decide to put out there...hope they both do well but hope one steps forward before the start of the Ole Miss game...
Posted on 9/9/16 at 10:16 am to OldPete
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As for Hurts' TD passes, I wouldn't say that first one was an easy throw as that was a 55-yard dart
I love watching the replay of that one. Dat fricking crow hop.
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Granted, the broken coverage TD was an easy throw.
He made the pre-snap read about as well as anyone could. I don't think many teams will try that shite again with him back there.
Looking back, what the hell was Pendergast thinking sending two defensive backs on a blitz from the same side of the field? Idiot.
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Blake's 2 long throws were beautiful.
Yeah. They were nice. A lot of credit for those should go to the offensive line though. He had a clean pocket and plenty of time for the routes to develop.
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but I want to see him make the same throws when the game is on the line
Absolutely. We need both of them prime time ready in case of an injury *fingers crossed*.
This post was edited on 9/9/16 at 10:17 am
Posted on 9/9/16 at 10:20 am to TideSaint
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Looking back, what the hell was Pendergast thinking sending two defensive backs on a blitz from the same side of the field?
I have to think that it was probably a corner blitz and that the safety should've stayed back, but who knows...one of the DBs must've missed the call...
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