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re: OC and OL coach search....

Posted on 2/19/24 at 9:41 am to
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 2/19/24 at 9:41 am to
Brian Ellis TE coach from Georgia Southern. OC and QBs coach at Georgia Southern. I meant he’d be TE coach here.
This post was edited on 2/19/24 at 9:44 am
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
42282 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 9:53 am to
Not a particularly exciting OL coach hire, but I guess we will just see how it goes.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 9:55 am to
Coached with Fedora at USM/UNC for a decade and had good numbers in rush YPA and sacks allowed. Was apparently Lincoln Riley's first choice at USC.

Don't know anything else about him. Seems like he's put up good numbers when coaching in spread offenses.
Posted by Tupelo
Member since Aug 2022
1462 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 9:59 am to
Looking at where he's been, he's been an OL coach a long time. Was at North Carolina, Southern Miss, Missouri State. The most interesting was he was OL coach at Alabama State for 5 years, and was also their OC for several years. He's currently the OL coach at Baylor. So he should have experience recruiting across the Southeast.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21692 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 10:08 am to
Apparently, he's known as a great recruiter.

quote:

- Great recruiter all over the east coast, specifically North Carolina. And has gone into many states and landed top talent. - Has spent time at many P5 programs (and succeeded) - Has an impressive all-time recruit list.

LINK
Posted by VaBamaMan
North AL
Member since Apr 2013
7652 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 10:15 am to
Michigan State fans shite all over him.when Baylor hired him, and they are doing the same now. The numbers kind of back them up.

2019 Colorado: 99th rushing offense

2020 MSU: 123rd rushing offense

2021 MSU: 53rd rushing offense

2022 MSU: 111th rushing offense

2023 MSU: 127th rushing offense

He was the OL coach and running game coordinator. He had Kenneth fricking Walker and his best was 53rd? That's troublesome...
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
24264 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 10:19 am to
Anyone with opinion on Brian Ellis new TE coach. He was OC and QB coach from Georgia Southern.
Posted by FeralFeral
Member since Dec 2017
961 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 10:27 am to
quote:

Not a particularly exciting OL coach hire, but I guess we will just see how it goes.



First DeBoer hire I straight up dislike. The TE coach hire looks intriguing though.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 10:33 am to
Looks like his numbers were much better with spread offenses like Fedora's.

Rush YPA/Sacks Allowed National Ranks

2009 Southern Miss - #33/#26
2010 Southern Miss - #32/#25
2011 Southern Miss - #15/#21
2012 North Carolina - #23/#11
2013 North Carolina - #85/#43
2014 North Carolina - #89/#72
2015 North Carolina - #3/#14
2016 North Carolina - #53/#30
2017 North Carolina - #81/#97
2018 North Carolina - #19/#7
2019 Colorado - #80/#41
2020 Michigan State - #124/#61
2021 Michigan State - #41/#27
2022 Michigan State - #89/#34
2023 Michigan State - #126/#71
This post was edited on 2/19/24 at 10:34 am
Posted by Joka2kold
Member since Nov 2019
4987 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 10:45 am to
I think it all boils down to scheme and talent with any offensive line coach.
Posted by CrimsonFlounder
Gulf Coast
Member since Feb 2011
1057 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 10:57 am to
Love to see the recruiting classes he had to work with at CO and MSU.
Posted by Lath0
Member since Jan 2024
9 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 10:58 am to
Does anyone feel like maybe someone with the board of directors, boosters, etc. are suggesting these hires? Or maybe it's the board trying to lower the financial cost of paying top coaches and instead funnel it into our NIL fund?
Ellis' alma mater being UAB as well as where he was a GA. Maybe has connections with someone at U.A.
I think Chris Kapilovic is one of the higher paid OL coaches, around 1million, so maybe tapping Sheridan as the oc was to get more money in the budget for the OL coach?

I'm just spitballing things is all, don't jump on me about it. lol, Just makes me curious about these less flashy hires being made to replace someone like Grubb, Huff, etc.
Posted by IB4bama
Pelham
Member since Oct 2017
1977 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 11:10 am to
Board of Directors?? surely you jest.
Posted by Lath0
Member since Jan 2024
9 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 11:13 am to
One thing for certain is the type of coaches K.Deboer hires. None are what I would call "known power house recruiters" and very few ties with recruiting in SEC country. The only ones I see being in the top 100 would Roach and Gillespie.
Saban owned recruiting in Florida and did pretty well pulling kids from Georgia to Texas.
Posted by TizzyT4theUofA
This side of eternity
Member since Jun 2016
10051 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 11:16 am to
quote:

Looks like his numbers were much better with spread offenses like Fedora's.

I wondering about this in the other thread. Did Mich St not run a spread offense?
Posted by Lath0
Member since Jan 2024
9 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 11:27 am to
"Board of Directors?? surely you jest."

Well it was well known Saban came in and immediately took control over the Alabama football program away from the trustees, boosters, and other administrators who had been involved. Just curious if Deboer is allowing any type of influence from those types of sources.
I know it's too early to tell and I could be absolutely wrong. I just enjoyed someone like Saban coming in and saying "this is what we're doing, get the "frick" out of my way".

Posted by Tupelo
Member since Aug 2022
1462 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 11:28 am to
Color me naive, but I'd think hiring Sheridan was likely due to DeBoer's familiarity with his abilities, and how he'd fit into his plans. Sheridan is apparently a capable QB coach, Penix followed him to Washington, after all.
Posted by Tideordie256
Florence, AL.
Member since Jun 2022
70 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 11:39 am to
Yes we shall see how it plays out. Surely Coach knows that in SEC country recruiting is king. You keep up or get left behind. Im trying to be optimistic and give him time so we shall see
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
13230 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 11:46 am to
quote:

Color me naive, but I'd think hiring Sheridan was likely due to DeBoer's familiarity with his abilities, and how he'd fit into his plans.


I think the plan all along was to hire someone to call his (Deboers) offense that he trusts / can oversee/ advise . It was never to hire someone to come in an implement an offense
Posted by Lath0
Member since Jan 2024
9 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 11:49 am to
Well it was definitely the most convenient hire to go with Sheridan. I still believe if we're hiring with the intention to do damage to other SEC schools and money is no object, we go get someone like AJ Milwee if we're just trying to get a q.b. coach and oc in name only or Kirby Moore if we're trying to find familiarity along with sec ties.
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