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My view on our offense.....
Posted on 10/11/15 at 10:58 am
Posted on 10/11/15 at 10:58 am
Henry is not the type of back that Lane try's to make him. Don't give him the ball five yards back while he is standing still and make him think about where to go. Even Eddie Lacy would have a hard time being successful with these run plays. So that shite is weak, not Henrys fault. And he still has good numbers but is very inconsistent on short yardage plays.
Is it too much to ask for some I-formation on first and second down and 3rd and shorts? The first time against Arky we went iform it was playaction fake to
Henry and a pass to Ridley for a TD. So simple. And it also takes pressure off Coker when he can roll out off playaction and either run of find a 5* receiver.
Why do we not run iformation? We won 3 national championships with it. Why stop now? I know we ran a ton of pistol as well, but it is also very similar to iform. I'm a pretty patient fan, but Kiffin is not needed at Alabama for any reason and should be let go at the end of this year for someone who is fimilar with championship football.
Our D is good enough to win a championship, so to hell with this new age gotta score a bunch to win bullshite. Look at LSU putting up 50 with our old style. I'm jelly. Roll Tide. And frick Lame Qeefin.
Is it too much to ask for some I-formation on first and second down and 3rd and shorts? The first time against Arky we went iform it was playaction fake to
Henry and a pass to Ridley for a TD. So simple. And it also takes pressure off Coker when he can roll out off playaction and either run of find a 5* receiver.
Why do we not run iformation? We won 3 national championships with it. Why stop now? I know we ran a ton of pistol as well, but it is also very similar to iform. I'm a pretty patient fan, but Kiffin is not needed at Alabama for any reason and should be let go at the end of this year for someone who is fimilar with championship football.
Our D is good enough to win a championship, so to hell with this new age gotta score a bunch to win bullshite. Look at LSU putting up 50 with our old style. I'm jelly. Roll Tide. And frick Lame Qeefin.
This post was edited on 10/11/15 at 11:01 am
Posted on 10/11/15 at 11:29 am to LukeSidewalker
We almost never ran I-formation under McElwain. His was a balanced, pro-style offense after 2008. Nussmeier used the I a little more, but still sparingly. People vastly overestimate the extent to which Bama was a smashmouth offense early under Saban. That was the case in 2007, 2008, and to a much lesser extent in 2009. Really McElwain made it a point to balance the run and pass. To that end, he almost always had a single back. I agree that we need to stop running from the gun, but you're mistaken with the "we were a smashmouth offense for our titles" narrative.
Posted on 10/11/15 at 11:42 am to LukeSidewalker
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Henry is not the type of back that Lane try's to make him.
Some lineman or linebacker will brush his feet and he falls down. It's so frustrating. He is amazing in space but he just doesn't make anyone miss and/or run them over at the LOS.
Posted on 10/11/15 at 11:43 am to CrimsonCrusade
I'm sorry. By iformation, I just mean line up under center. Single back is fine. I forgot iform includes a full back. And yes, we ran, ran, and playactioned against all the good teams during the dynasty. I watched it.
Posted on 10/11/15 at 12:01 pm to LukeSidewalker
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I forgot iform includes a full back
This might be my favorite I formation comment, ever
Posted on 10/11/15 at 1:09 pm to LukeSidewalker
I agree that we should play more from under center. It seems like Coker plays better from there. Same with Henry. Drake can run out of the shotgun thanks to his speed. Henry cannot.
Posted on 10/11/15 at 1:28 pm to LukeSidewalker
Also, just because there is a long pass on the route tree, doesn't mean Coker HAS to attempt it. He had guys open underneath but he acts like he just has to throw the long one.
Posted on 10/11/15 at 1:32 pm to TidenUP
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He had guys open underneath but he acts like he just has to throw the long one.
He's getting a little bit better, but to my amateur eyes, it seems to me that Coker makes up his mind what route he wants to throw before the ball is even snapped. He doesn't make many progressions and forces the ball a lot of times. Unless it's 3rd down, there is absolutely nothing wrong with a 3-4 yard dump.
Posted on 10/11/15 at 1:59 pm to LukeSidewalker
Because Saban wanted to go out and get a different style coordinator. Plus our oline hasn't had depth and has been kind of suspect since 2012
Posted on 10/11/15 at 7:38 pm to LukeSidewalker
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And frick Lame Qeefin
We don't come back to beat Auburn last year without Kiffin.
We don't win the SEC last year without Kiffin.
Posted on 10/11/15 at 8:10 pm to LukeSidewalker
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By iformation, I just mean line up under center. Single back is fine.
hard to listen to anything you say about football when you say things like this.
Posted on 10/11/15 at 8:29 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
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hard to listen to anything you say about football when you say things like this.
Homeboy doesn't know WTF an I-formation is, yet he wants critiqe and get rid of Kiffin
Posted on 10/11/15 at 8:41 pm to CrimsonTideMD
that is how i feel about most of the posters who make these type of posts. if you are going to call for somebody's job, you should know a little something about what they actually do.
Posted on 10/11/15 at 8:43 pm to CrimsonTideMD
Lane Kiffin is the 2nd best OC Bama has had behind Homer Smith in my opinion.
This post was edited on 10/11/15 at 8:44 pm
Posted on 10/11/15 at 9:30 pm to LukeSidewalker
We haven't ran the I consistently in awhile. Mostly we run the ACE; a single back formation.
Posted on 10/12/15 at 12:02 am to Bosley
I actually thought the pistol favored a back like Henry. Our running game suffered because Arkansas s good enough on their front four to prevent our OL from getting to the second level which is why 51 looked like an All American. Outside of pass blocking I thought they performed as well as can be expected. This is not the same Arkansas team Bama was beating by 52 points. They can actually play.
Posted on 10/12/15 at 12:14 am to Bosley
I was thinking of ace formation when I said iform, my bad. This is what we need. As long as Henry is the featured back at least. To all of you sucking lane kiffins dick. Yall ain't shite.
Posted on 10/12/15 at 4:46 am to LukeSidewalker
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To all of you sucking lane kiffins dick. Yall ain't shite
You sure told everybody.
That will teach everyone to never counter inaccurate statements with facts because insults always trump facts.
Posted on 10/12/15 at 7:04 am to LukeSidewalker
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LukeSidewalker
Livin up to that name.
Posted on 10/12/15 at 7:47 am to TidenUP
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Also, just because there is a long pass on the route tree, doesn't mean Coker HAS to attempt it. He had guys open underneath but he acts like he just has to throw the long one.
but in reality, arent the vast majority of qb's with big arms this very same way. i think its inherent in them to believe they have the arm to get the ball there regardless. i remember that no one could overthrow a receiver like freddy kitchens could.
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