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Posted on 8/17/17 at 9:03 pm to JustGetItRight
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The question is will it help draw some of the Brooks and Pittman voters back for the runoff. The people that voted Moore are the same ones that will vote for him in the runoff. Very few of those that voted for Pittman and Brooks will come over into his camp.
Strange needs to pull about half of those voters back in September to secure the primary (and thus the senate seat). Getting those people to warm to him was probably the bigger reason for the endorsement. If they'd been worried about the runoff he would have gotten Trump involved much sooner.
I am a conservative evangelical Christian. No way on God's green earth would I vote for Roy Moore unless he was running against Bernie Sanders, Pelosi, Feinstein, or Elizabeth Warren.
It should be noted that I am almost libertarian, though a more accurate description might be a modern era anti-federalist.
This post was edited on 8/17/17 at 9:15 pm
Posted on 8/17/17 at 9:08 pm to Bryant91092
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You got a small circle?
Well, I'm a CPA who performs audits. I'd say my circle is wider than most, but maybe not. Half of my job is working with new people though. I don't bring up politics, but when you work in other people's offices for weeks at a time they are going to bring up current events eventually.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 9:10 pm to JordonfortheJ
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Let's not act like the parties then are what they are now... And Dems at one point were more conservative. So ideology hasn't changed
The Dems were more conservative in the 1990s? Interesting...
Posted on 8/17/17 at 9:10 pm to RollTide4Ever
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Yeah, the switch really happened in late 90s/2000s. They love their pork.
Just whatever timeline works, I guess.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 9:28 pm to imjustafatkid
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The Dems were more conservative in the 1990s? Interesting...
Quote where I said that.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 9:29 pm to JordonfortheJ
The Dems didn't lose control in Alabama until after the millenium. If there was a switch, it was very recent.
ETA: My question was more of a rhetorical one to show the fallacy of your statement.
ETA: My question was more of a rhetorical one to show the fallacy of your statement.
This post was edited on 8/17/17 at 9:32 pm
Posted on 8/17/17 at 9:36 pm to imjustafatkid
We share the same profession. We must have different type clients.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 9:45 pm to imjustafatkid
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The Dems didn't lose control in Alabama until after the millenium. If there was a switch, it was very recent.
Lol ok
Posted on 8/17/17 at 10:00 pm to JordonfortheJ
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Lol ok
Are you just unaware of Alabama history? That quote is fact. It's easy enough to verify.
ETA: LINK to make it easy for ya. Republicans did not fully control the government in Alabama until 2011. I honestly thought it was earlier than that.
This post was edited on 8/17/17 at 10:09 pm
Posted on 8/18/17 at 8:32 am to imjustafatkid
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If there was a switch, it was very recent.
It wasn't an immediate switch, but a gradual one over 15-20 years. It really started when Richard Shelby switched parties in the early 90's.
Now, the Alabama Republicans today aren't the exact same as the Democrats from 20-30 years ago. There has been a LOT of the Tea Party influence which would never have flown with the Democrats back then. But on most social issues, there is little difference, and there are still plenty of Alabama Republicans that LOVE the pork.
Today's Democrats in Alabama have also been pulled left, so they're not really like the Democrats of 20-30 years ago either. Alabama has always been a conservative state, it just took many years for that conservatism to find a home in the Republican party.
Posted on 8/19/17 at 5:32 pm to The Spleen
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It wasn't an immediate switch, but a gradual one over 15-20 years. It really started when Richard Shelby switched parties in the early 90's.
How convenient.
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Alabama has always been a conservative state, it just took many years for that conservatism to find a home in the Republican party.
Usually this "party switch" ideal is meant to paint Republicans as the racist party, which is easy to disprove, so your argument is new for me. When were Democrats conservative? During FDR's New Deal? The Reagan era?
Is this just a state thing? When, during the over 100 years of Dem/AEA rule in Alabama while they created more earmarks in our budget than are workable, were the Dems championing conservative values? Were they espousing conservative values when they created our abomination of a state constitution that gave the state power over every local government?
Posted on 8/19/17 at 9:03 pm to imjustafatkid
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Were they espousing conservative values when they created our abomination of a state constitution that gave the state power over every local government?
There is nothing at all unique about the State of Alabama's authority over cities and counties. It is the norm and not the exception in America.
Posted on 8/20/17 at 12:01 am to JustGetItRight
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There is nothing at all unique about the State of Alabama's authority over cities and counties. It is the norm and not the exception in America.
That may be true, but that doesn't mean I have to like it.
This post was edited on 8/20/17 at 12:02 am
Posted on 8/24/17 at 1:46 pm to JordonfortheJ
Moore's whole"I'm so excited to embark on my new career" line when he announced his candidacy was hilarious. Starting up a law practice, getting a job teaching, going into philanthropy...those are new careers. Don't try to paint your shameless attempt to keep living off the public teat as a political huckster as some sort of noble and uncharted endeavor. 
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