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re: I've changed my mind about Dabo coming home when CNS retires
Posted on 1/12/16 at 3:34 pm to OldPete
Posted on 1/12/16 at 3:34 pm to OldPete
Tom Herman is waiting on the next big job. Him being at Houston for five years is def. possible. I also like that Pitt coach who is from Dantonio tree. Keep an eye on Scott Frost as well. There is always a great coach out there at these lower levels. I still can't get over Nebraska never giving Urban Meyer a look.
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Posted on 1/12/16 at 3:45 pm to Gump4heisman
quote:Exaclty. They lost 7 starters off the defense from last year and Lawson and Alexander were really banged up. The offense was also without their best WR and a guy who can take the top off a defense in Cain. And they lost their OC from last year.
I don't like him but I disagree about the Clemson roster being like a typical Oregon or auburn spread. They had physical players on both sides of the ball. They would be good on offense if they ran a pro style.
How do people not see that Dabo is the real deal?
Posted on 1/12/16 at 3:47 pm to mrbroker
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Those guys dont come around every year
Dabo's been at HC at Clemson since 2009.
9-5
6-7
10-4
11-2
11-2
10-3
14-1
5-3 in postseason play.
He's managed to win a ton of games with whomever he's had at QB.
And while on the subject of winning, they're in the longest stretch of 10 win seasons in the history of the program right now. He's on a pace to easily be the greatest coach in the history of their program.
I can understand people not wanting him because of the way he keeps his emotions on full display, but he is winning BIG at Clemson. He's one of the better coaches in the game today.
Posted on 1/12/16 at 11:35 pm to mrbroker
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Those guys dont come around every year
Tajh Boyd says hi.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 6:58 am to Evolved Simian
and your point is? they are few and far between. Just look at AU and TAMU. They are all out there competing for those handful of game changers. So you think Clemson will get one of those kids every other year to committ? Why do you think the NFL has not adopted this kind of O with all of their teams?
Posted on 1/13/16 at 7:28 am to mrbroker
It's going to be Dabo. Saban is hiring his successor and it will be Dabo
Posted on 1/13/16 at 7:30 am to JustGetItRight
He is a good manager, but after the game Monday, I actually want him less. There were several areas that were on full display that he failed at pretty hard. Details and knowledge.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 5:37 pm to bamarep
Dabo would have to win multiple conference titles, at least 1 natty, and mature drastically to be in that conversation. At this point, the powers that be wouldn't touch Dabo.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 5:43 pm to bamarep
Why Dabo? Because he played at Bama or because he is the best out there?
If it is because he played there, you are doing it wrong.
If it is because he played there, you are doing it wrong.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 5:49 pm to Bham4Tide
I think that the general consensus is: both.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 6:09 pm to Bham4Tide
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Why Dabo? Because he played at Bama or because he is the best out there?
If it is because he played there, you are doing it wrong.
Take his name off the resume, examine it without bias, and you probably come to the conclusion that he is the hottest young coach in the country. His success is sustained and isn't tied to one particular player or coordinator. So at this point you can't say he isn't a flash in the pan. He also isn't some "guru" who knows everything about one side of the ball and nothing about the other. He's a great recruiter and knows this region of the country better than anyone not named Saban. He also had a terrific gameplan and had his team ready for the championship game. The only reason he lost is because he got outcoached in crunch time by the Greatest Coach of All Time.
I'd hire him no matter where he went to school. The fact that he went to Alabama is a bonus not because its a storyline, but because he knows what the culture is like and wouldn't be overwhelmed. Due to his success at another major program, he's someone who would have the political capital to come in and say "We are doing things my way."
That said, I want to see him sustain this success a little longer and prove that it wasn't just a result of Spurrier coasting at USCe. I also want him to get a little more seasoning/maturity. But if Saban left tomorrow, I think we could do a whole lot worse than Dabo. He's as proven as any other realistic option. But I don't know if it's an automatic that he'd come here.
This post was edited on 1/13/16 at 6:13 pm
Posted on 1/13/16 at 6:55 pm to RollDatRoll
Let's see one is a former alumnus and player who just had his team in the playoff against the best program of this century and nearly won the others last head coaching stint ended in failure and he ran out in his previous job after one year. Give me Dabo over Kiffin any and every day.
Kiffin is a phenomenal OC and can apparently turn a poor QB into a good QB or at least keep an offense effective despite weaknesses behind center, I'll even say if not for him Bama doesn't win this NC but I don't want Bama taking a chance that he is mature enough to handle this job besides if he won here he would likely get a call from the NFL.
Kiffin is a phenomenal OC and can apparently turn a poor QB into a good QB or at least keep an offense effective despite weaknesses behind center, I'll even say if not for him Bama doesn't win this NC but I don't want Bama taking a chance that he is mature enough to handle this job besides if he won here he would likely get a call from the NFL.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 10:48 pm to Bham4Tide
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Why Dabo? Because he played at Bama or because he is the best out there? If it is because he played there, you are doing it wrong.
I would hire him because of what he's built at Clemson...I think his experience playing/coaching at Bama would be a plus only in that he'd know exactly what he's getting into if he accepted, as far as expectations and the environment...
Posted on 1/13/16 at 11:03 pm to bamarep
I have tried to like him, I really have. He reminds me of Delmar from "O brother where art thou" though. He just seems corny and goofy to me.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 6:20 am to bamarep
He looks and acts like he sustains himself on a diet of crystal meth and crayons.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 6:33 am to BrocraticMethod
I don't care what he sounds like. If his personality is part of what allures players to play for him then so be it. He has taken Clemson and turned them into a juggernaut. While a decent football school they are not steeped in championship football tradition. There is not one legit name out there that has the experience and recruiting prowess that anyone can name who is as realistic a shot to follow Saban at Bama than Dabo.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 7:36 am to labamafan
Kiffin. And this was a truly great Clemson team, but that program is not what I would call a juggernaut.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 1:01 pm to cajunbama
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Kiffin. And this was a truly great Clemson team, but that program is not what I would call a juggernaut.
And when has Kiffin built a juggernaut?
Clemson's not on our level but they've been as successful as any other in the country over the last 5 years.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 2:10 pm to FairhopeTider
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And when has Kiffin built a juggernaut?
He hasn't to my knowledge. What's that got to do with anything?
I never said he had, but he has recruited at Dabos level and higher, which is what I was actually talking about. I wouldn't hate it if Dabo was the next coach, we certainly could and have done infinitely worse.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 2:55 pm to ReauxlTide222
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Exaclty. They lost 7 starters off the defense from last year and Lawson and Alexander were really banged up. The offense was also without their best WR and a guy who can take the top off a defense in Cain. And they lost their OC from last year.
How do people not see that Dabo is the real deal?
Sooooo, you are saying that Clemson had Watson (granted he was hurt for part of the year), but aincredible/more experienced defense, several of the same record breaking offense from 2013 and most of the key players from this years team and they still lost 3 last year to @UGA, @FSU(close) and @GT(bad) and didn't win the ACC?
2013 bad losses to FSU and @USCe
2012 losses to @FSU and USCe
2011 bad losses @GT, @NCState and @USCe and destroyed by WVa but did win the ACC
2010 close losses @AU, Miami, @NC, @BC, @FSU, @USCe and USF
My point being, he gets out-coached fairly consistently in games that he should not. Not too mention, he's only won the ACC twice. I get what some of you are saying but I watch a lot of ACC and SEC football, he is absolutely not my first choice, maybe not even my second choice. A lot of this Dabomania is b/c of the "what have you done for me lately in 2015" but his overall body of work isn't as solid as everyone thinks it is. There's a reason the phrase "Clempsoning it" evolved under his tenure.
He will win against teams that he isn't supposed to and then "Clempson it" against much lesser opponents. He recruits well, but how do you not at least compete for an ACC title, and even a NC, with the likes of Tajh Boyd, Sammy Watkins and Vic Beasley and the ACC schedule? I get that FSU is in the same division, but he's beaten us and then lost to a team that he shouldn't have. He is 5-4 in bowl games with wins against OU (2), OSU, LSU and KY. Losses include Bama, WVa, USF and Nebraska.
He is a good coach, that has great coordinators and once he keeps pulling in once in a lifetime players so how is he not competing year in and year out for a NC? I would prefer a guy that wins more with less, Shaw from Stanford comes to mind.
Dabo is the Mark Richt of the ACC, I prefer him as someone else's coach but not sure I want him as Bama's. Maybe I'm wrong but that's just my $.01.
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