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re: Grant will be back next year...

Posted on 2/18/15 at 12:38 pm to
Posted by Gary Busey
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 12:38 pm to
Battle, or he person taking his emails, is not going to send out an email that can go public and share his moves or potential moves.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 2:07 pm to
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Robin Masters


Let's say you're right, and the players just can't shoot. Who is responsible for bringing in good players?

Let's say you're right, and the players can't rebound. Whose players are these and who teaches them to rebound?

But, let's be honest, and admit you're wrong. NO team can shoot if the offensive strategy sucks. Several of the guys on the team were known as great shooters coming out of high school. Funny how during the past 6 years, these guys' shooting always gets worse once they step on campus. I'd say it's been a little better this year, but I think that's because we do have some guys that would be great shooters in a competent offense.
This post was edited on 2/18/15 at 2:08 pm
Posted by BigBird09
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 5:52 pm to
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Levi, Tarrant and Hale are also decent shooters. Having guys that can't shoot is not Bama's problem

Disagree.

1. Hale has been an abysmal shooter until the last couple games, and Tarrant has been a very inefficient 3 pt shooter. The fact that you didn't mention Cooper and mentioned Hale confuses me.

2. Even with the much smoother offense we had at the beginning of the season, we were missing 3s like crazy.

Shooting is certainly not our only problem, but it is a major problem. That also shouldn't be an excuse for Grant. These are all his players...
Posted by harmonics
Mars Hotel
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 6:10 pm to
You all just need to be patient. Grant will get Alabama back to the NIT eventually, I promise.
Posted by Tide or Die87
Huntsville, AL
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 6:39 pm to
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quote:Levi, Tarrant and Hale are also decent shooters. Having guys that can't shoot is not Bama's problem Disagree. 1. Hale has been an abysmal shooter until the last couple games, and Tarrant has been a very inefficient 3 pt shooter. The fact that you didn't mention Cooper and mentioned Hale confuses me. 2. Even with the much smoother offense we had at the beginning of the season, we were missing 3s like crazy. Shooting is certainly not our only problem, but it is a major problem. That also shouldn't be an excuse for Grant. These are all his players...


Kind of sad that they all were suppose to be known as good shooters when coming to Bama besides Levi. Tarrant even killed us one year SMH.
Posted by Lordofwrath88
Tuscaloosa
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 7:47 pm to
What did you actually expect Battle to say?

"Yeah man, Grant is totally gone, I'm already looking at resumes."




Also, early Throwback Thursday

This post was edited on 2/18/15 at 7:50 pm
Posted by Herman Frisco
Bon Secour
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 7:51 pm to
Hope I'm wrong but my money is on Grant being at Bama next year. If he can get to 20 and a win in the SEC Battle will bring him back.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21678 posts
Posted on 2/19/15 at 9:02 am to
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Hope I'm wrong but my money is on Grant being at Bama next year. If he can get to 20 and a win in the SEC Battle will bring him back.



So, you think we're going 4-1 to finish the year?
Posted by Herman Frisco
Bon Secour
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 2/19/15 at 9:37 am to
With the curse the bb program is under, it will happen.
And we will be in the same place this time next year.
Sorta like Groundhog Day.
CAG should have been let go last year, IMHO.
But that is just one mans. Op.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20760 posts
Posted on 2/19/15 at 9:56 am to
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"Yeah man, Grant is totally gone, I'm already looking at resumes."


Is that the only alternative?
Posted by sarc
Member since Mar 2011
9997 posts
Posted on 2/19/15 at 10:11 am to
Speaking of high school players who had reputations as great shooters but weren't able to live up to it at Bama:

@PackPride: NC State's Trevor Lacey is a finalist for the Jerry West Award given to the nation's best shooting guard.

His 3Pt% this year is higher than his FG% both years at Bama. This is why I always dispute the claim that the issue is recruiting or talent. When 4* and 5* recruits consistently play like 3*s, the issue is coaching and talent development
Posted by Tide or Die87
Huntsville, AL
Member since Jan 2012
12956 posts
Posted on 2/19/15 at 11:56 am to
I think its different when you playing with Cat Barber and another great shooter like Ralston Turner. He more than likely gets a lot better shots and he had a extra year to do nothing but work on his game.
Posted by BigBird09
Member since May 2012
5885 posts
Posted on 2/19/15 at 12:08 pm to
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Kind of sad that they all were suppose to be known as good shooters when coming to Bama besides Levi. Tarrant even killed us one year SMH.
Tarrant was inconsistent and streaky at Tulane as well. I think everyone expected him to tone down the attempts and it would help his percentages, and that didn't happen. Hale in HS was actually more of a killer midrange guy in HS who could step out and hit the three. Sadly we don't have an offense that can get him those midrange shots unless he creates them himself. Coop, Lacey, Norris, and Mitchell were the best HS shooters that we landed.
Posted by Tide or Die87
Huntsville, AL
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 2/19/15 at 12:12 pm to
Yea I remember being super excited about Cooper averaging over 30ppg in high school and him nailing all the deep 3s in his film.
Posted by bona fide
Burma
Member since Jun 2010
8972 posts
Posted on 2/19/15 at 12:16 pm to
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Disagree.

1. Hale has been an abysmal shooter until the last couple games, and Tarrant has been a very inefficient 3 pt shooter. The fact that you didn't mention Cooper and mentioned Hale confuses me.

2. Even with the much smoother offense we had at the beginning of the season, we were missing 3s like crazy.

Shooting is certainly not our only problem, but it is a major problem. That also shouldn't be an excuse for Grant. These are all his players...



Cooper was mentioned. Cooper along with Norris are the two that have shot over 40% from behind the arc all season. Figured that would be obvious. The next three were listed below them, Hale, Tarrant and Levi. All five of these guys are decent to very good shooters. That is more than enough on a college team.

Although I didn't list Hale as the top guy, I believe he is the best shooter on the team. A guy's shooting percentage, just like a team's shooting percentage, does not tell the whole story. I'd put Norris as second best. Of course if you just want to use percentages to see who the best shooters are, google is all that is needed. That is just not my preferred method.


For clarification on my posts in this thread. Yes, shooting for this Bama team is a problem. Having enough good shooting players on the team, is not the problem. Bama has plenty of good shooters, imo.





This post was edited on 2/19/15 at 12:38 pm
Posted by sarc
Member since Mar 2011
9997 posts
Posted on 2/19/15 at 12:18 pm to
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I think its different when you playing with Cat Barber and another great shooter like Ralston Turner. He more than likely gets a lot better shots and he had a extra year to do nothing but work on his game.



He's also shooting better despite playing against much stronger competition than he ever did at Bama. I think NC State is something like #2 in SOS
Posted by bona fide
Burma
Member since Jun 2010
8972 posts
Posted on 2/19/15 at 12:22 pm to
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His 3Pt% this year is higher than his FG% both years at Bama


This speaks to some of my earlier posts in this thread. Better opportunities(open shots) lead to better percentages. Open shots are the result of the competent offensive sets, something Bama does not have.

Never thought I would miss the UCLA hi-lo
This post was edited on 2/19/15 at 12:23 pm
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21678 posts
Posted on 2/19/15 at 12:42 pm to
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With the curse the bb program is under, it will happen.
And we will be in the same place this time next year.
Sorta like Groundhog Day.
CAG should have been let go last year, IMHO.
But that is just one mans. Op.



You shut your dirty whore mouth! I've already lived through this nightmare for two years.
Posted by Spread
Alabama
Member since Aug 2012
1150 posts
Posted on 2/19/15 at 1:40 pm to
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Cooper along with Norris are the two that have shot over 40% from behind the arc all season


Not to beat a dead horse, but Bama's team shooting percentages are .439 overall, and .315 for 3-pointers. Bama's two best 3-point shooters are Cooper at .407 and Obasohan at .368.

LINK
This post was edited on 2/19/15 at 1:42 pm
Posted by sarc
Member since Mar 2011
9997 posts
Posted on 2/19/15 at 1:43 pm to
Which illustrates the problem. We've never been a strong shooting team under CAG yet we always have a perimeter-oriented half-court offensive style. I know CAG is a sharp guy; it just doesn't make sense to me.
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